"Bob" wrote:


Akka wrote:
We continue to have problems with our engine-driven refrigeration
system, and wondered if anybody knows what we might be doing wrong.


After reading all the posts so far, I got to admit I do not think I
make enough money and lack the skill to maint a refer system.

So why do you "need" a refer system when most the worlds population
lacks such amenities?

What does that have to do with anything? Most of the world's
population doesn't have good health care. Some of them don't have
enough food or water. Why should you assume that I would want to be
like most of the world's population?

This morning I got up had my oat meal, soy milk, and a few raisins.
Umm........ The soy milk aint milk but the light chocolate soy is
great! Shelf life is about on year. For lunch I think I'll have some

My husband drinks soy milk because he is lactose intolerant. I
normally have a bagel (untoasted and with no cream cheese) for
breakfast, or we have bacon. But what I have for breakfast and
whether I need refrigeration to have that isn't really any of your
business. And it isn't really helping with this question is it?
Which was NOT how can I get by without refrigeration.

I have enjoyed reading Annie Hill's book - she does without
refrigeration, as do the Pardeys. But I can decide on what to take
from their books by myself.

rice, fish, and some veggies. Maybe for dinner a little pasta, veggies,
olive oil, parmesan. Ummmmmm. Oh, and a nice 84 degree F beer. The hops
really stand out over 80 F! Get a good south pacific beer brewed
locally and its got to taste good at 84 degrees. Why? Uhh, who do think
is buying it? Later a snack: fruit salad, pineapple, mango, banana, and
that weird pokey thing that tastes like Juicy Fruit Gum. And speaking
of Hawaiian styled Poke. Nothing like a nice bowl of raw fish. Ummm.

Hey........ just a second! Non of that needed a refer?!?!?

So why do you need a refer? Oh I forgot. For all the visitors when tied
at the dock. I do not do much entertaining. I enjoy sailing. One of the
first things I threw overboard was that cocktail table in the cockpit.
Damn thing kept flapping around when surfing down 20' seas. Also
removed the salon table. Now that was a waste of space. But will be
able to recycle both for various boat projects.

And no I do not think cursing should be "camping in the sixteenth
century."

All a person needs do is cruise, pick up handy ways of living from
people not raised in a Wal-Mart. But if everyone did that our economy
would crash. How much of our GNP is from consumer purchasing????

Rosalie B. wrote:
"Bob" wrote:

But what I have for breakfast and
whether I need refrigeration to have that isn't really any of your
business.

Granny, I do belive you are baiting me into a fight.


And it isn't really helping with this question is it?
Which was NOT how can I get by without refrigeration.


Sure it is. rip it out and free himself of the frustratin and down time
fixing it.


I have enjoyed reading Annie Hill's book - she does without
refrigeration, as do the Pardeys. But I can decide on what to take
from their books by myself.

True, personally I belive the marketing stratigies in the united states
are rather robust and efective. It certainly has you bamboozled.

All a person needs do is cruise, pick up handy ways of living from
people not raised in a Wal-Mart.

Are you still angry from our last conversation?

Benevolent Bob

"Bob" wrote:


Rosalie B. wrote:
"Bob" wrote:

But what I have for breakfast and
whether I need refrigeration to have that isn't really any of your
business.

Granny, I do belive you are baiting me into a fight.

I thought that was you baiting me g


And it isn't really helping with this question is it?
Which was NOT how can I get by without refrigeration.


Sure it is. rip it out and free himself of the frustratin and down time
fixing it.

Our boat (which is a very old boat -1979) has a huge fridge
compartment something like 14 cu. ft. Way to big for just the two of
us. But it works, and Bob can keep it running so it isn't a problem
except for figuring out what to fill it up with.

There are all kinds of possibilities for boats - including a portable
12V fridge, or ripping the current fridge out and putting a newer
system in, or doing without. We are going with what we have for now.

But that doesn't help the OP, and I really think that he (or she -
don't remember which) could think of 'rip it out' for himself if it
was something he wanted to do. Possibly his SO doesn't want to do
without refrigeration.

I have enjoyed reading Annie Hill's book - she does without
refrigeration, as do the Pardeys. But I can decide on what to take
from their books by myself.

True, personally I belive the marketing stratigies in the united states
are rather robust and efective. It certainly has you bamboozled.

Marketing strategies for what? The books? The refrigeration? I'm
not buying anything.

All a person needs do is cruise, pick up handy ways of living from
people not raised in a Wal-Mart.

Are you still angry from our last conversation?

Benevolent Bob

I don't shop if I can possibly avoid it - not at Wal-Mart or anywhere
else. I bought Annie Hill's book at one of the first boat shows I
went to after we got our boat, and it made me want a junk rig (which
Bob wouldn't go for of course). Even people who shop at Wal-Mart may
have good ideas on occasion and I'm always on the lookout for such.
(although I'm not going to eat sushi)

Bob wrote:

Sure it is. rip it out and free himself of the frustratin and down time
fixing it.


Benevolent Bob

OK...so burn your house down and move into a tepee on the empty lot.
Don't forget to close off the water/sewer lines.

As to trying to convert me to your chosen lifestyle...you sound like a
lot of religious fundamentalists (pick any religion you want). "You
WILL _______ what I tell you to".

Steve Thrasher wrote:


OK...so burn your house down and move into a tepee on the empty lot.
Don't forget to close off the water/sewer lines.

As to trying to convert me to your chosen lifestyle...you sound like a
lot of religious fundamentalists (pick any religion you want). "You
WILL _______ what I tell you to".



Hi Thrasher:

Gezz. I did not think eating oatmeal and soymilk would get you so
upset.

I would not like to see your reaction when something important happens.

As far as the whole high v. low tech sailing philosophy you might want
to read some of that drive-by-mainstream-media for an interesting
discusssion on this topic. The article describes how a guy basically
spent his two week island cruise fixing the refer and other stuff. If I
remember right, it was printed in that liberal-tree hugging-commie rag
titled Cruising World a few months back.

Besides, most of us have, at one time or another, watched somebody
toiling over a task that you knew how to do safer, faster, cheaper, and
easier. True...no?

As I said earlier I neither have the money to hire someone to fix a
refer, the knowledge to do it myself, nor the desire to spend any more
time mucking about elbow deep in work.
So I chose to eat oatmeal and soymilk, raw or boiled fish, cabbage,
carrots, onions, pasta, and drink crisp 80 degree beer. Travel light-
Travel easy-Travel fast.

So I'll end here and hope that somebody can help the guy fix his
refrigerator. Personally I don't have one. I have better things to do
than fix stuff on a boat.

Bob