Gary wrote:
Roger Long wrote:

What's a Truant 33? I never heard of one and Google doesn't turn
anything up.

Same as a Saturna 33. Bill Garden designed pilothouse.
Some online pics of my Truant:


http://community.webshots.com/album/515778647hanuJn

On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 07:03:26 GMT, Gary wrote:

Roger Long wrote:
What's a Truant 33? I never heard of one and Google doesn't turn
anything up.

Same as a Saturna 33. Bill Garden designed pilothouse.


Looks good. What happens if you lurch against the stainless cooker
vent in a blow?

Brian Whatcott Altus OK

Brian Whatcott wrote:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 07:03:26 GMT, Gary wrote:


Roger Long wrote:

What's a Truant 33? I never heard of one and Google doesn't turn
anything up.


Same as a Saturna 33. Bill Garden designed pilothouse.



Looks good. What happens if you lurch against the stainless cooker
vent in a blow?

Brian Whatcott Altus OK
When it is blowing (and we are sailing), The Charlie Noble comes off and
we close the hole, then there is less chance of flailing sheets
snagging the stove pipe. We then use an alcohol stove that fits over the
Dickinsen. The stove pipe is pretty well out of the way behind the
lower forward shrouds and it would be difficult to lurch against it but
never the less it comes off in a blow. I presume you are talking about
the outside portion of the stack.

The Dickinsen is primarily a fall, winter and spring stove here in the
PNW. It keeps the boat warm and dry. On cool summer evenings we light
it but not often.

Gary

Gary wrote:

When it is blowing (and we are sailing), The Charlie Noble comes off and
we close the hole, then there is less chance of flailing sheets
snagging the stove pipe. We then use an alcohol stove that fits over the
Dickinsen. The stove pipe is pretty well out of the way behind the
lower forward shrouds and it would be difficult to lurch against it but
never the less it comes off in a blow. I presume you are talking about
the outside portion of the stack.

The Dickinsen is primarily a fall, winter and spring stove here in the
PNW. It keeps the boat warm and dry. On cool summer evenings we light
it but not often.

Do you run that stove while sailing? I had a Cole / coal stove on one of
my boats, but it was for at anchor only.

On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 18:36:52 GMT, Gary wrote:

Looks good. What happens if you lurch against the stainless cooker
vent in a blow?

Brian Whatcott Altus OK
When it is blowing (and we are sailing), The Charlie Noble comes off and
we close the hole, then there is less chance of flailing sheets
snagging the stove pipe. We then use an alcohol stove that fits over the
Dickinsen.
//
Gary


Ah yes.

Thanks

Brian Whatcott Altus OK

Paul Cassel wrote:
Gary wrote:


When it is blowing (and we are sailing), The Charlie Noble comes off
and we close the hole, then there is less chance of flailing sheets
snagging the stove pipe. We then use an alcohol stove that fits over
the Dickinsen. The stove pipe is pretty well out of the way behind
the lower forward shrouds and it would be difficult to lurch against
it but never the less it comes off in a blow. I presume you are
talking about the outside portion of the stack.

The Dickinsen is primarily a fall, winter and spring stove here in the
PNW. It keeps the boat warm and dry. On cool summer evenings we light
it but not often.

Do you run that stove while sailing? I had a Cole / coal stove on one of
my boats, but it was for at anchor only.
Yes. It draws fine unless I am close hauled on a starboard tack, then I
have to turn it up a bit to keep that draft working well.

Brian Whatcott wrote:
On 4 Aug 2006 22:50:44 -0700, "Praxi" wrote:

Hi all,

I'm new to sailing and I would like to buy a (used) boat between
30-35".

I'm looking for something that I can spend a couple nights on, now and
then, while on a trip; entertain my family, and friends, and maybe live
there for a week or so.

Can someone give me some leads as to what to look for and what to stay
away from?

Maybe recommend some boats (brand, material, year, model, etc.) to look
for?

Thank you,


There's a school of thought that says a cheap old sailing dinghy is a
whole lot cheaper to bang around in, while learning the fine points.
Going fresh to a 32 ft sailboat can be done no doubt, but not by most
without a few expensive trips to the bank.

Brian Whatcott Altus OK

Brian,

You hit the nail right on the head, a first boat should always be a
small one. Your going to learn from it, and it's going to cost you a
lot less, with a small boat, when you screw up, AND YOU WILL SCREW UP.
Bump into a pole, or another boat, while manuvering in a crowded cove
or marina with a small boat, and most cases you end up with little more
than a brused ego. Do the same thing with a 35 foot boat, and it's a
whole differant ball game. Make no mistake about it, a 30 plus foot
boat, for a first boat, is a very big boat. I've seen people get away
with it, and every one of them thought they were doing a wounderful
job, but those people sent shivers down everyones spine when they saw
them comming.

John

"Praxi" wrote:


I'm new to sailing and I would like to buy a (used) boat between
30-35".

I'm looking for something that I can spend a couple nights on, now and
then, while on a trip; entertain my family, and friends, and maybe live
there for a week or so.

Can someone give me some leads as to what to look for and what to stay
away from?


I started with a 30ft boat, I don't regret it.

Very easy to single hand and find overnight dockage when on cruise.

If it were me, I'd try to find a decent used 30ft Catalina.

There are lots of them around, won't cost a lot of money and be easy
to sell for what you paid for it when you want to get out.

Lew

In article .com,
Peter Bennett wrote:

I suggest you charter boats for a few trips - you can try a variety of
boats in various sizes to see what works best for you.


OR crew on racing boats: Not only gives you an idea of what's out there
and what works *for you*, but you gain valuable instruction fast. The
Wednesday night "beer races" may be your best bet as they're often
looking for willing victims, so you'll likely have many boats to choose
from.

Just realize that the friendliest, mildest-mannered person becomes
"Captain Bligh" during the race. They usually apologize afterwards, but
it's almost impossible to push a boat to its best without high energy.

That said, our lovely lady does everything the OP mentioned, plus. Our
next big trip, scheduled for when I'm next between jobs, will be the two
of us in the Bahamas for a few months.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
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