On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 14:59:32 GMT, "Roger Long"
wrote:

Yeah, I could have called him on the radio but the rules of the road
were written to make it possible to deal with something this simple
without having to yack and negotiate on the air.

Actually that's not quite the case. The rules of the road
specifically mention horn signals to clear up cases of uncertain
intentions. You, like many other small pleasure craft, do not have a
horn powerful enough to be useful at a distance, and many skippers of
large boats are in an enclosed pilot house where horns can be
difficult to hear. For these and other reasons, almost all approach
situations between larger vessels are being negotiated on channel 13
these days.

You might call it yacking, I'd call it prudence. Be safe out there.

"Wayne.B" wrote

difficult to hear. For these and other reasons, almost all approach
situations between larger vessels are being negotiated on channel 13
these days.

I've observed, listened to, and participated in many of those
exchanges over the last thirty years. They are almost always back up
and confirmation of actions already being taken on the basis of the
rules situation.

I've never heard a conversation along the lines of, "Big white yacht,
you aren't really going to just continue on that course like I wasn't
even here, are you?" I can't remember a radio exchange where someone
had to ask for the rules to be observed.

If I was in the pilothouse of a powerboat, tweaking the autopilot, and
holding my coffee mug in the other hand, I would make a lot of radio
calls. It looks different when you are alone in a boat in conditions
that make two hands on the wheel nice but one is on the main sheet
ready for instant easing.

--

Roger Long

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:58:06 GMT, "Roger Long"
wrote:

I've never heard a conversation along the lines of, "Big white yacht,
you aren't really going to just continue on that course like I wasn't
even here, are you?" I can't remember a radio exchange where someone
had to ask for the rules to be observed.

Roger forget the "rules being observed" for a minute. He didn't hit
you did he? That's his only obligation. My sense of the situation
is that you altered course before it became an issue, and quite
possibly that was a prudent decision on your part but we'll never know
for sure.

On the other hand, a nice polite radio conversation when you were
still a mile away could have gone like this:

You: "Large south bound motor yacht from Portland, this is Roger
Long's sailboat requesting a pass on two whistles."

He: "Roger Long's sailboat, this is the Floridania, roger that, two
whistle pass, have a nice day."

You: "Thanks, you have a nice day also."

On balance, it's a good way to lower your blood pressure and leads to
a better experience for all concerned. Try it some time.

"Wayne.B" wrote

Roger forget the "rules being observed" for a minute. He
didn't hit
you did he? That's his only obligation.

Bzzzt! Wrong!

Totally wrong. I think a couple of people need to re-read the colregs.

Here's a link in bigger type for those of us with older eyes...

http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknow...g/colregs.html

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Wayne.B" wrote

Roger forget the "rules being observed" for a minute. He
didn't hit
you did he? That's his only obligation.

Bzzzt! Wrong!

Nice link .... to the international rules. Most people (In the US) need to
focus on the Inland Rules first. You can always get the most up-to-date
official copy of the Nav Rules (International and Inland at)

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navrules/download.htm



"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Totally wrong. I think a couple of people need to re-read the colregs.

Here's a link in bigger type for those of us with older eyes...

http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknow...g/colregs.html

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Wayne.B" wrote

Roger forget the "rules being observed" for a minute. He
didn't hit
you did he? That's his only obligation.

Bzzzt! Wrong!

Gerald wrote:
Nice link .... to the international rules. Most people (In the US) need to
focus on the Inland Rules first. You can always get the most up-to-date
official copy of the Nav Rules (International and Inland at)

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navrules/download.htm

So, where is the demarcation line for where the "inland rules start and
the Colregs end?

Which rules did apply in this case and does it make a difference?

Gary

I agree! I think you need to read them again.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Gerald" wrote in message
...
Nice link .... to the international rules. Most people (In the US) need
to focus on the Inland Rules first. You can always get the most
up-to-date official copy of the Nav Rules (International and Inland at)

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navrules/download.htm



"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Totally wrong. I think a couple of people need to re-read the colregs.

Here's a link in bigger type for those of us with older eyes...

http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknow...g/colregs.html

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Wayne.B" wrote

Roger forget the "rules being observed" for a minute. He
didn't hit
you did he? That's his only obligation.

Bzzzt! Wrong!

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:58:06 GMT, "Roger Long"
wrote:


I've never heard a conversation along the lines of, "Big white yacht,
you aren't really going to just continue on that course like I wasn't
even here, are you?" I can't remember a radio exchange where someone
had to ask for the rules to be observed.


Roger forget the "rules being observed" for a minute. He didn't hit
you did he? That's his only obligation. My sense of the situation
is that you altered course before it became an issue, and quite
possibly that was a prudent decision on your part but we'll never know
for sure.

On the other hand, a nice polite radio conversation when you were
still a mile away could have gone like this:

You: "Large south bound motor yacht from Portland, this is Roger
Long's sailboat requesting a pass on two whistles."

He: "Roger Long's sailboat, this is the Floridania, roger that, two
whistle pass, have a nice day."

You: "Thanks, you have a nice day also."

On balance, it's a good way to lower your blood pressure and leads to
a better experience for all concerned. Try it some time.



I wouldn't clearly understand what a "pass on two whistles" is. I am a
ships captain. What does it mean?

Gary

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:58:06 GMT, "Roger Long"
wrote:

I've never heard a conversation along the lines of, "Big white yacht,
you aren't really going to just continue on that course like I wasn't
even here, are you?" I can't remember a radio exchange where someone
had to ask for the rules to be observed.


Then you need to have your radio on more often. Those kind of calls
are not that uncommon.