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Thanks for the responses so far.
The boat pix is a factory job - the one I passed on cuz instead of under a hundred, it was more like 500 in the bidding - and I already had one. OTOH, if anyone knows where to buy the not-filters part of that, certainly, that's the best way. However, I'll also pour over the diagrams to see if that makes sense to me. The story about the hose gave me chills - fortunately, mine's only 1/4" ID, and already bought. My idea was, indeed, to be able to change the filter on the fly. Having the ability to use one of them for fuel polishing wasn't my priority, but interesting. As bouncy as the ride over when we bought it was, it's possible we can get away without that. However, an ounce of prevention, etc. I'll have to sketch it out to see if I can visualize Glenn's - but I'm sure his engineering mind will have it worked out :{)) Glenn, does it look diagrammatically like the one before? Keep those cards and letters coming :{)) And, as always, Thanks. L8R Skip PS another Morgan Sailor - same hull, different deck, 452 #3, got the raft Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC http://tinyurl.com/p7rb4 - NOTE:new URL! The vessel as Tehamana, as we bought her "Believe me, my young friend, there is *nothing*-absolutely nothing-half so much worth doing as simply messing, messing-about-in-boats; messing about in boats-or *with* boats. In or out of 'em, it doesn't matter. Nothing seems really to matter, that's the charm of it. Whether you get away, or whether you don't; whether you arrive at your destination or whether you reach somewhere else, or whether you never get anywhere at all, you're always busy, and you never do anything in particular; and when you've done it there's always something else to do, and you can do it if you like, but you'd much better not." |
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On Sun, 07 May 2006 16:20:34 -0700, Skip Gundlach wrote:
Thanks for the responses so far. The boat pix is a factory job - the one I passed on cuz instead of under a hundred, it was more like 500 in the bidding - and I already had one. OTOH, if anyone knows where to buy the not-filters part of that, certainly, that's the best way. However, I'll also pour over the diagrams to see if that makes sense to me. The story about the hose gave me chills - fortunately, mine's only 1/4" ID, and already bought. My idea was, indeed, to be able to change the filter on the fly. Having the ability to use one of them for fuel polishing wasn't my priority, but interesting. As bouncy as the ride over when we bought it was, it's possible we can get away without that. However, an ounce of prevention, etc. I'll have to sketch it out to see if I can visualize Glenn's - but I'm sure his engineering mind will have it worked out :{)) Glenn, does it look diagrammatically like the one before? Keep those cards and letters coming :{)) And, as always, Thanks. L8R Skip PS another Morgan Sailor - same hull, different deck, 452 #3, got the raft Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig KI4MPC http://tinyurl.com/p7rb4 - NOTE:new URL! The vessel as Tehamana, as we bought her "Believe me, my young friend, there is *nothing*-absolutely nothing-half so much worth doing as simply messing, messing-about-in-boats; messing about in boats-or *with* boats. In or out of 'em, it doesn't matter. Nothing seems really to matter, that's the charm of it. Whether you get away, or whether you don't; whether you arrive at your destination or whether you reach somewhere else, or whether you never get anywhere at all, you're always busy, and you never do anything in particular; and when you've done it there's always something else to do, and you can do it if you like, but you'd much better not." Approx. 2/3 of the way down the page. You need 2 three way valves. The brass valve should work. It is like a tank selector valve on some older dual tank trucks that had manual selection of fuel tanks. http://www.jackssmallengines.com/barens_valve_ball.cfm Each 3way valve will have to be turned to a position so fuel flows through one filter and then through other valve to engine. Fuel should flow through filter A or Filter B but not both at the same time. If one valve is turned the wrong way you will have no flow to engine. Copy and paste this to a text editor such as notepad. It should become clear. |------------FilterA--------| Tank---------3wayvalve 3way valve-------engine |____________filterB________| |
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Parallel filoter while intuitively a good thought rarely work on a boat
in practice. A high particle challenge situation that 'slug' one filter will sequentially 'slug the second filter. It is VASTLY more efficient to run a recirculation / polishing system INDEPENDENT of the in line fuel deliver line as a high turn over recirculation filter will VASTLY 'turn the tank over' much quicker )3-4 gallones per minute) than an in-line filter (1 gallon per hour average). The advantage being FASTER tank recovery back to 'normal' particle background .... using a filter retention of approx 10 times the retention of the final filter in the direct feed system. A 'techy' would call this the laws of exponential decay PLUS the 10X retention filter does have an efficiency (although low) at much smaller than the 'rating'. Since you 'turn-over' so much faster though the larger retention filter (with 10X lower flow resistance) the net result is VERY fast clean up of the tank contents. Send me an email at RhmpL33(AT)att(DOT)net for a sketch of my filtration train ( independent recirc. plus blocked and bypassed dual parallel direct line filters .... plus on-line reserve (emergency) day tank. The day tank is a gravity feed 3 gallon 'storage' medium for clean fuel .... so that if all hell breaks loose I can simply switch it IN to the direct feed line and run for several hours .... and dont have to worry about changing the diaphragm in the lift pump, could care less about changing racors, etc. etc. etc. until 'things settle down'. I dont know about you but usually a heavy sea state will knock crap loose in a tank ... and thats NOT the time to go below and screw around with 'filters' - when the sea is running hard, if I put my head into the bilge for any length of time ... I power -puke. |
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