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Wayne.B wrote:

On 7 Apr 2006 06:18:35 -0700, wrote:

This:

We were out cruising last weekend and saw 4 PeeWCs. Two of them were
weaving in and out of a crowded channel jumping wakes. The other two
were pre teens circling a crowded anchorage while their parents
enjoyed a few beers on the back deck of their rented houseboat.


does not lead to or support this conclusion at all:

Responsible operation is a VERY rare commodity with PeeWCs.


(I know even you see that it's an unsupportable leap from two four
irresponsible operators to responsible operation being "very rare.")


4 out of 4 is 100%, and that is just from one day last week.


Yes but it's only a sampling of 4! So not very conclusive. If your
observations don't include lots of well-behaved responsible boaters on
pwc's, then there's some bias in your method or something skewed about
the population you're drawing your observations from,
because there are thousands of us out here! Honest.

This stuff goes on all the time unfortunately, not exceptional by any
means. PeeWCs operated by anyone under the age of 30 should be
restricted to privately owned swimming pools where they can go in
endless circles all they want, no license required.

Over age 30, no restrictions as long as they have their mother in law
on board and a blood alcohol level in minus numbers.


LOL, well I appreciate the humor in these comments. (Swimming pools,
endless circles!) And I kind of agree, I wouldn't say 30, but I'd
support no drivers under 16 without certified adults on board with
them, and I think that is the rule here in NYS.
At any rate, past 16, if an aspiring boater had the initiative and good
attitude to just take the basic training course (or just take the exam,
if he already has some experience and knowledge under his belt from his
childhood, which was not the case in my situation), then they just
wouldn't be able to help knowing a lot more about right and wrong
behavior, regulations and laws, right-of-way and signalling of intent
and nav-aids and docking and anchoring and navigating, safety
precautions and procedures;
and just absorbing the good influence of the nice guys who run the
Power Squadron course and the others in the class....anyone who did
that is gonna be a better boater for it, and probably trustworthy to
ride around outside the pool. If they haven't learned the basics and
demonstrated that level of accountability and responsibility, then no I
don't want them there either.

richforman

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Wayne.B wrote:
On 7 Apr 2006 12:56:06 -0700, wrote:

At any rate, past 16, if an aspiring boater had the initiative and good
attitude to just take the basic training course


Some of the very worst PeeWC bozos that I've seen are in their late
teens or early 20s. No thanks, age 30 is about time to let them out
of the pool.


But I wonder, have they learned the basics? Are they in a state like
here in NYS where they have to get the training in order to get behind
the wheel? I really think, again, of my first season when I first
bought my first entry-level pwc. I really had no boating/water
experience and didn't know anything about the environment, in
retrospect it's stupid but no one even really told how much there was
to know, I did mistakenly think, at first, that my new boat was just a
"toy." I'm 'fessing up that I really didn't know about slowing down
when passing boats docked at a marina or areas where I people were
swimming. I was in my early '30's by the way, and just ignorant...at
first! 'Til my friends that I started riding with, who were also the
ones who got me into cruising and long trips, etc., told me all that
stuff (or I'm sure some cops and angry fellow boaters told me lots of
it too)...anyway, by season #2 and since then, I really haven't done
any of it.

Most people once they have it pointed out to them the implications of
what they're doing and how it affects others....I'd think they'd
improve their behavior, it just seems natural.
So I don't think it's a question of age (like I said, I was well over
30, and still did the same stupid things, until I learned better)...but
rather training and knowledge and experience.

For the zillionth time, that's why I strongly support training,
education and certification requirements for ALL power boaters.

richforman

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