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Roger Long April 2nd 06 11:16 PM

New Jersey operator licensing
 
Interesting thread on the Wooden Boat Magazine forum about New Jersey
being one of the first states to establish licensing for recreational
boat operators. I haven't tried to parse it to carefully (can't think
of any reason I would ever go to New Jersey, let alone stay there the
triggering 90 days) but it sounds like it could apply to non residents
or someone passing through (slowly).

Has anyone here been tracking this? NJ boat dealers must be having
cows and kittens all at the same time.

As a just (self) grounded private pilot, it does seem strange to go
out and do something that involves just as much responsibility and
requires just as much skill (at least to do safely) with out all the
training and oversight involved in flying aircraft. Boat licensing is
probably overdue but I still hate to see it coming up over the
horizon.

--
Roger Long






Roger Long April 2nd 06 11:42 PM

New Jersey operator licensing
 
Reading more closely, it appears that you have to be able to present
written proof of having taken a safe boating course somewhere just to
pass through NJ. I guess my 45 year safe boating course wouldn't
count because I didn't get a certificate.

I'm glad I don't plan to go to NJ. The marina operators must love
this.

I'm just picking out of the WBM postings. Anybody actually looked
into this?

--

Roger Long





Jasper Windvane April 3rd 06 12:20 AM

New Jersey operator licensing
 
Let me see if I have this right ;;; you think the government should require
us to get a license to sail our boats.

The same government that can't control the borders, that allows illegal
tresspassing into our county by people from some **** ass crap hole like
Mexico.

That government is now going to tell us how to sail our boats!

F..k this ,,,, New Jersey is a ********. A corrupt ********.

Anyone who thinks that sailors need licenses it NUTS! F'king NUTS.

You need to go back up in that airplane. This time bring some oxygen with
you.

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"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
Interesting thread on the Wooden Boat Magazine forum about New Jersey
being one of the first states to establish licensing for recreational boat
operators. I haven't tried to parse it to carefully (can't think of any
reason I would ever go to New Jersey, let alone stay there the triggering
90 days) but it sounds like it could apply to non residents or someone
passing through (slowly).

Has anyone here been tracking this? NJ boat dealers must be having cows
and kittens all at the same time.

As a just (self) grounded private pilot, it does seem strange to go out
and do something that involves just as much responsibility and requires
just as much skill (at least to do safely) with out all the training and
oversight involved in flying aircraft. Boat licensing is probably overdue
but I still hate to see it coming up over the horizon.

--
Roger Long








Don White April 3rd 06 12:21 AM

New Jersey operator licensing
 
Roger Long wrote:
Reading more closely, it appears that you have to be able to present
written proof of having taken a safe boating course somewhere just to
pass through NJ. I guess my 45 year safe boating course wouldn't
count because I didn't get a certificate.

I'm glad I don't plan to go to NJ. The marina operators must love
this.

I'm just picking out of the WBM postings. Anybody actually looked
into this?


Here it's a National Program. Could stand to be enhanced.
http://www.theoperatorcard.ca/

Skip Gundlach April 3rd 06 12:23 AM

New Jersey operator licensing
 
"Jasper Windvane" wrote in message
news:V_YXf.3014$aW5.2591@trndny07...
Let me see if I have this right ;;; you think the government should
require us to get a license to sail our boats.


......


Anyone who thinks that sailors need licenses it NUTS! F'king NUTS.

You need to go back up in that airplane. This time bring some oxygen with
you.


Read the man's post:

Boat licensing is probably overdue
but I still hate to see it coming up over the horizon.


Where do you see he advocates licensing???

Give it a rest.

--
L8R

Skip

Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig KI4MPC
http://tinyurl.com/384p2 The vessel as Tehamana, as we bought her

"Believe me, my young friend, there is *nothing*-absolutely nothing-half so
much worth doing as simply messing, messing-about-in-boats; messing about in
boats-or *with* boats.
In or out of 'em, it doesn't matter. Nothing seems really to matter, that's
the charm of it.
Whether you get away, or whether you don't; whether you arrive at your
destination or whether you reach somewhere else, or whether you never get
anywhere at all, you're always busy, and you never do anything in
particular; and when you've done it there's always something else to do, and
you can do it if you like, but you'd much better not."



Armond Perretta April 3rd 06 01:23 AM

New Jersey operator licensing
 
Roger Long wrote:

... (can't think
of any reason I would ever go to New Jersey, let alone stay there the
triggering 90 days) ...


Can't think of any reason you'd get invited.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.comcast.net



[email protected] April 3rd 06 01:34 AM

New Jersey operator licensing
 

Roger Long wrote:
....
As a just (self) grounded private pilot, it does seem strange to go
out and do something that involves just as much responsibility and
requires just as much skill (at least to do safely) with out all the
training and oversight involved in flying aircraft. Boat licensing is
probably overdue but I still hate to see it coming up over the
horizon.

....

Your premise is wrong. Boating is far easier to do safely than flying.
There are far more boaters than flyers and they have far fewer serious
accidents. In terms of accidents per person mile I'm sure that walking
on stairs is more dangerous than boating... Should we require stair
user licences? I can't see where the government has a compelling
interest here...

-- Tom.


Roger Long April 3rd 06 02:01 AM

New Jersey operator licensing
 
Sorry, I didn't mean it that way. I spent one of the nicest years of
my life in NJ. I just don't have any boating plans for south of Cape
Cod. My interest is to the north and east.

--

Roger Long



"Armond Perretta" wrote in message
. ..
Roger Long wrote:

... (can't think
of any reason I would ever go to New Jersey, let alone stay there
the
triggering 90 days) ...


Can't think of any reason you'd get invited.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.comcast.net




Larry April 3rd 06 02:40 AM

New Jersey operator licensing
 
" wrote in
ps.com:

I can't see where the government has a compelling
interest here...


Same as always, the incessant collection of MONEY, first, and PERSONAL
DATA, second.

They want to know who you are, where you are and what you're doing at all
times.....


[email protected] April 3rd 06 04:06 AM

New Jersey operator licensing
 
Well folks, I broke down with filter problems at Long Beach Island YC
and they looked after me like a long lost brother. At my old YC we
would do anything for a fellow sailor and those members did the same
for me. Fugettaboutit.NJ rocks.



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