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Brewing beer aboard
Don W wrote:
A month to six weeks sounds doable. A lot of long-term cruisers seem to hang out in the same place for that long. The temperature range could probably be handled with a cooler, or possibly with just a small water evaporation pump. Or if the outside water temp is good, use some kind of pumped water jacket. I suppose if you were in a really calm anchorage you could stuff the fermenter inside a small innertube and float it on a teather. If I understand what you are getting at correctly, you could probably start a batch at anchor, and possibly let it continue to ferment on a passage. Sounds like the agitation wouldn't be a show stopper. Ideally you'd want the least motion at the end of the fermentation when it is clarifying. I'd turn your schedule around and start brewing a week or two before I planned on an extended anchorage. You'd be starting secondary fermentation when you dropped the hook. On the other hand, brewing (from extract) is like making a big batch of complicated soup, much easier at anchor than underway. I suppose you could use one of those pre-boiled beer-in-a-bag kits, but I've never heard anything good about the result. cool! Would you mind describing the process from start to finish for those of us that would like to try, but haven't yet gotten educated on the finer (or possibly even some of the coarse) points? That is a topic that literally requires a book to describe adequately. The Complete Joy of Home Brewing is the bible: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006...lance&n=283155 If you are in the US, the American Homebrewers Association is a good source of info, including a monthly magazine. Here is their intro to homebrewing: http://www.beertown.org/homebrewing/beginning.html An over-simplified summary of the process as I imagine it: Boil 5 gallons of water, malt extract & hop pellets for an hour. Get distracted because your "crew" just made an accidental jibe. Return to galley to find your kettle has boiled over and you have dark sticky burnt sugar water in all the places you can't clean but can smell on a hot humid day. Allow to cool for a few hours to room temperature. Siphon "wort" to primary fermenter. Try to spill less than 50%. Add yeast packets. No, you can't drink it yet. Threaten your "crew" with the plank if they mess with the fermenter for the next few weeks. Ignore complaints about it being in the way. At night you have something new to worry about; will the fermenter explode. At 0300 you either hit a log or your fermenter just blew the airlock into the ceiling. Fortunately it's not a log, unfortunately your fermenter just spewed a mixture of dead yeast, soggy hop fragments and protein solids all over the cabin. At least that'll cover up the smell of the boilover on hot humid days. You won't find the airlock until an excited customs dog finds it for you months later. Once the primary fermentation has subsided, siphon to a clean, sterile secondary fermenter. Try to spill less than 50%. Repeat threats to crew. Relax, beer rarely explodes at this point in the process, unless the temperature spikes. No, you can't drink it yet. Wait a few more weeks while it conditions and clarifies. No, you can't drink it yet. Siphon to a clean, sterile keg. Try to spill less than 50%. Natural conditioning is for sissies, use forced carbonation. You did refill your CO2 tank at the last port didn't you? No, you can't drink it yet. Wait another week for it to carbonate and condition. OK, you can drink it now. If there was too little oxygen at the beginning the yeast won't be vigorous enough to dominate the bacteria and it'll taste like nasty sugar water. If there was too much oxygen at the end it'll oxidize and taste like wet cardboard. If there was too much sunlight, the hops will break down and it'll smell skunky. If it was too hot the fermentation will produce lots of higher alcohols and fusel oils which will turbo-charge your hangover. If you didn't ferment long enough it'll taste like sugar water. If you fermented too long, the dead yeast cells will start to autolyze and give your beer a nice MSG-like protein flavor. If you got it just right, your "crew" will make the beer disappear and you have to start all over. FOR EXTRA CREDIT: Take your brewing ingredients through customs. Customs agents love it when you try to bring in a big bag of green sticky leafy material and a couple of big bags of tan-colored powder. Ask me how I know. -- Chuck Cox - SynchroSystems - Synchro.com , my email is politician-proof, just remove the PORK |
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This is starting to sound like a challenge ;-)
Don W. Chuck Cox wrote: An over-simplified summary of the process as I imagine it: Boil 5 gallons of water, malt extract & hop pellets for an hour. Get distracted because your "crew" just made an accidental jibe. Return to galley to find your kettle has boiled over and you have dark sticky burnt sugar water in all the places you can't clean but can smell on a hot humid day. Allow to cool for a few hours to room temperature. Siphon "wort" to primary fermenter. Try to spill less than 50%. Add yeast packets. No, you can't drink it yet. Threaten your "crew" with the plank if they mess with the fermenter for the next few weeks. Ignore complaints about it being in the way. At night you have something new to worry about; will the fermenter explode. At 0300 you either hit a log or your fermenter just blew the airlock into the ceiling. Fortunately it's not a log, unfortunately your fermenter just spewed a mixture of dead yeast, soggy hop fragments and protein solids all over the cabin. At least that'll cover up the smell of the boilover on hot humid days. You won't find the airlock until an excited customs dog finds it for you months later. Once the primary fermentation has subsided, siphon to a clean, sterile secondary fermenter. Try to spill less than 50%. Repeat threats to crew. Relax, beer rarely explodes at this point in the process, unless the temperature spikes. No, you can't drink it yet. Wait a few more weeks while it conditions and clarifies. No, you can't drink it yet. Siphon to a clean, sterile keg. Try to spill less than 50%. Natural conditioning is for sissies, use forced carbonation. You did refill your CO2 tank at the last port didn't you? No, you can't drink it yet. Wait another week for it to carbonate and condition. OK, you can drink it now. If there was too little oxygen at the beginning the yeast won't be vigorous enough to dominate the bacteria and it'll taste like nasty sugar water. If there was too much oxygen at the end it'll oxidize and taste like wet cardboard. If there was too much sunlight, the hops will break down and it'll smell skunky. If it was too hot the fermentation will produce lots of higher alcohols and fusel oils which will turbo-charge your hangover. If you didn't ferment long enough it'll taste like sugar water. If you fermented too long, the dead yeast cells will start to autolyze and give your beer a nice MSG-like protein flavor. If you got it just right, your "crew" will make the beer disappear and you have to start all over. FOR EXTRA CREDIT: Take your brewing ingredients through customs. Customs agents love it when you try to bring in a big bag of green sticky leafy material and a couple of big bags of tan-colored powder. Ask me how I know. |
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Hi folks. I am a professional brewer. Spent 10 years in the brewing
industry. I don't know if you would want to brew on a boat, considering all the things that could go wrong. You can probably store better beer than take up the space you need for proper refrigeration, space, etc. Too much hassle. |
#24
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Agitation won't increase your attenuation. In general, outside of
natural convections inside your fermenting vessel, you don't want to agitate things. Flocculation is based upon having a still fermenter. If you resort to malt extracts and dried yeast, you'll go back to buying beer. Spent 10 years in the brewing industry after I was a homebrewer, and consulted in Scotland, US, Canada, Zambia. The heat alone that you need for a proper boil would bring a lot of danger to your boat. If you are willing to do this to save a couple bucks on beer, then you might want to revisit some safety rules. Honestly, research what is available and get some kind of bulk delivery when you are there. You can order these things online in the UK, and they're great. Cheers |
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Wow: Home brew on boats.........Lost of stuff to consider, pack, and clean, and store. I thinik maybe good rum is a bit more traditional and stores better. Most the local pacific tropical brand beers I drank was pretty good considering serving temp was 83 degrees. They seem to have overcome the no refridgeration problem in the third world. On the other hand, my last attempt at "home brew" was the late 1980s: Receipt from a prison ship. 5 big cans of fruit cocktail. a big chunck of baker's yeast. garbage can scrubbed well. Mix stuff in garbage can. Let work for about 4 weeks. We couldn't wait any longer! It got the job done. We had another receipt that called for as much catchup you could steal but didn't get a chance to try it out, although I was assured it worked. Or at least he said it did back at Chino. Bob |
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Okay, so you made me laugh Bob. Needed that to relax tonight...while I am
sitting enjoying a product of my own homebrewing hobby. Here's to rrum...:-). Glenn. "Bob" wrote in message ups.com... Wow: Home brew on boats.........Lost of stuff to consider, pack, and clean, and store. I thinik maybe good rum is a bit more traditional and stores better. Most the local pacific tropical brand beers I drank was pretty good considering serving temp was 83 degrees. They seem to have overcome the no refridgeration problem in the third world. On the other hand, my last attempt at "home brew" was the late 1980s: Receipt from a prison ship. 5 big cans of fruit cocktail. a big chunck of baker's yeast. garbage can scrubbed well. Mix stuff in garbage can. Let work for about 4 weeks. We couldn't wait any longer! It got the job done. We had another receipt that called for as much catchup you could steal but didn't get a chance to try it out, although I was assured it worked. Or at least he said it did back at Chino. Bob |
#27
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wow, Coors Lite doesn't sound so bad after all.
Don't ferment prunus fruits with the pits / stones in them. You will die. Have a nice day. |
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