I can't recall seeing anything definitive on this topic.

If that bottle of stove alcohol in your cockpit locker leaks and
drains into the bilge, how much danger is there of explosion or fire?

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Roger Long

I don't think you'll find it in the bilge... it's lighter than air unlike
propane.

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"Roger Long" wrote in message
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I can't recall seeing anything definitive on this topic.

If that bottle of stove alcohol in your cockpit locker leaks and drains
into the bilge, how much danger is there of explosion or fire?

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Roger Long

On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 18:18:55 GMT, "Roger Long"
wrote:

If that bottle of stove alcohol in your cockpit locker leaks and
drains into the bilge, how much danger is there of explosion or fire?

Alcohol mixes readily with water and that will quickly reduce its
flammability below the danger level in most cases. The real risk with
alcohol on boats (other than consumption), is with the old fashioned
pressurized stoves. They have probably caused more boat fires and
burn injuries than any other single reason. Another problem with
alcohol is filling a stove that is already hot, typically because it
has run out while in the middle of cooking dinner. It is very easy
for the vapors to ignite in that situation and the flames are
difficult to see in sunlight.

"Mys Terry" wrote
alcohol is lighter than air?

Thanks. I didn't know that!


I think it's your head that gets lighter than air when you put the
alcohol into the brain.

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Roger Long

Roger, the non-pressurized alcohol stoves have to be the safest of the
liquid fuel types in terms of the fuel itself.

You might enjoy researching the vast variety of home-made, light-weight
alcohol stoves popular among campers. For about $10 you can buy (pretty
much free if you make one) an alcohol burner that will boil two cups of
water in about 4 minutes at sea level (where else?). Just avoid the
isopropyl alcohol you find in drug stores. These small stoves make a
great back-up stove for any boat if care is given to providing for
reasonable stability. Not that the commercial, non-pressurized alcohol
stoves have much of anything that can malfunction, but users of propane,
butane, kerosene, and electric stoves might consider them.

There was a discussion on this group some time ago about fumes from
various on-board cooking stoves that you might find interesting.

Chuck

Roger Long wrote:
I can't recall seeing anything definitive on this topic.

If that bottle of stove alcohol in your cockpit locker leaks and
drains into the bilge, how much danger is there of explosion or fire?

Sorry, I was thinking CNG and typing alcohol. It might be ok, since there's
probably water in the bilge...

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www.sailnow.com

"Roger Long" wrote in message
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I can't recall seeing anything definitive on this topic.

If that bottle of stove alcohol in your cockpit locker leaks and drains
into the bilge, how much danger is there of explosion or fire?

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Roger Long

I think his head is filled with air.

Strange that he is mascarading as a woman who's pretending to be a guy.

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www.sailnow.com

"Roger Long" wrote in message
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"Mys Terry" wrote
alcohol is lighter than air?

Thanks. I didn't know that!


I think it's your head that gets lighter than air when you put the alcohol
into the brain.

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Roger Long

Hmm, generally speaking, water is a major by-product of burning almost
anything combustible in an oxygen atmosphere.

BS

"Mys Terry" wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 21:24:26 GMT, chuck wrote:

Roger, the non-pressurized alcohol stoves have to be the safest of the
liquid fuel types in terms of the fuel itself.


Two problems with alcohol stoves, even if not pressurized:

1) major by-product of burning alcohol is water, and lots of it. It's a
great
way to make your cabin clammy in a hurry

2) The real problem with all alcohol stoves from a safety standpoint is
that the
flame is almost completely invisible. If somebody doesn't see that as a
significant safety issue, they just aren't thinking clearly.

Too bad it's also not a by-product of this guy running his mouth. Instead,
all we get is hot air. :-)

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"Robert or Karen Swarts" wrote in message
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Hmm, generally speaking, water is a major by-product of burning almost
anything combustible in an oxygen atmosphere.

BS

"Mys Terry" wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 21:24:26 GMT, chuck wrote:

Roger, the non-pressurized alcohol stoves have to be the safest of the
liquid fuel types in terms of the fuel itself.


Two problems with alcohol stoves, even if not pressurized:

1) major by-product of burning alcohol is water, and lots of it. It's a
great
way to make your cabin clammy in a hurry

2) The real problem with all alcohol stoves from a safety standpoint is
that the
flame is almost completely invisible. If somebody doesn't see that as a
significant safety issue, they just aren't thinking clearly.

Are you saying that you have had a clammy cabin from burning alcohol?

My experience, based on something like 1,000 meals cooked in a 34 foot
sailboat doesn't support this conclusion.

Chuck

Mys Terry wrote:
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 21:24:26 GMT, chuck wrote:


Roger, the non-pressurized alcohol stoves have to be the safest of the
liquid fuel types in terms of the fuel itself.



Two problems with alcohol stoves, even if not pressurized:

1) major by-product of burning alcohol is water, and lots of it. It's a great
way to make your cabin clammy in a hurry

2) The real problem with all alcohol stoves from a safety standpoint is that the
flame is almost completely invisible. If somebody doesn't see that as a
significant safety issue, they just aren't thinking clearly.