I think Garhauer makes racks that mount to stanctions for hanging kayaks
outside the rail.
I agree with the below, heard too many "wasn't there a dinghy back there
when we left?" stories to do that myself.

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Does anyone have experience either storing an
ocean kayak (closed, sit on top variety) on a 27
foot sailboat, or towing it behind?

What are your experiences? Doable? Horrible?
Good idea?

Thanks!

I believe there's another thread about towing... you should probably avoid
this except for short distances in protected waters.

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"MMC" wrote in message
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I think Garhauer makes racks that mount to stanctions for hanging kayaks
outside the rail.
I agree with the below, heard too many "wasn't there a dinghy back there
when we left?" stories to do that myself.

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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Does anyone have experience either storing an
ocean kayak (closed, sit on top variety) on a 27
foot sailboat, or towing it behind?

What are your experiences? Doable? Horrible?
Good idea?

Thanks!

I believe there's another thread about towing... you should probably
avoid
this except for short distances in protected waters.

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www.sailnow.com

I have that tee shirt.

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Damn expensive experience gathering! A good friend has lost 2 inflatables
while towing! He finally bought davits.....
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"MMC" wrote in message
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I think Garhauer makes racks that mount to stanctions for hanging kayaks
outside the rail.
I agree with the below, heard too many "wasn't there a dinghy back there
when we left?" stories to do that myself.

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
oups.com...

Does anyone have experience either storing an
ocean kayak (closed, sit on top variety) on a 27
foot sailboat, or towing it behind?

What are your experiences? Doable? Horrible?
Good idea?

Thanks!

I believe there's another thread about towing... you should probably
avoid
this except for short distances in protected waters.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

I have that tee shirt.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

MMC wrote:
Damn expensive experience gathering! A good friend has lost 2 inflatables
while towing! He finally bought davits.....
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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The reason I am interested in hearing from someone who has actually
towed a sit on top is because of all the types of towed dinghies, it
seems like it would be the best. It can't fill with water. It won't
suddenly weigh 1000 pounds. It is unsinkable. The only thing that I
can think of that would be of concern is it flipping over in a seaway
and diving. Painter chafe is a solveable problem.

Carrying one onboard is easy and I do that regularily. I don't tie it
to the guardrails/lifelines though. They are not strong enough for that.

Gaz

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MMC wrote:
Damn expensive experience gathering! A good friend has lost 2 inflatables
while towing! He finally bought davits.....
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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The reason I am interested in hearing from someone who has actually towed
a sit on top is because of all the types of towed dinghies, it seems like
it would be the best. It can't fill with water. It won't suddenly weigh
1000 pounds. It is unsinkable. The only thing that I can think of that
would be of concern is it flipping over in a seaway and diving. Painter
chafe is a solveable problem.

Carrying one onboard is easy and I do that regularily. I don't tie it to
the guardrails/lifelines though. They are not strong enough for that.

Gaz

Yes, it would seem like it would be the best... but they get pretty
squirrelly I would think... whipping around because they have no substance.
I believe that the one I saw lost kept getting whipped from side to side and
this finally did in the painter.

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Gary wrote:
MMC wrote:

Damn expensive experience gathering! A good friend has lost 2 inflatables
while towing! He finally bought davits.....
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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The reason I am interested in hearing from someone who has actually
towed a sit on top is because of all the types of towed dinghies, it
seems like it would be the best. It can't fill with water. It won't
suddenly weigh 1000 pounds. It is unsinkable. The only thing that I
can think of that would be of concern is it flipping over in a seaway
and diving. Painter chafe is a solveable problem.

Carrying one onboard is easy and I do that regularily. I don't tie it
to the guardrails/lifelines though. They are not strong enough for that.

Gaz


Usually, at this time, someone recommends the PortaBote.
It folds up smaller than your kayak for attaching to lifelines, yet
would keep you dry rowing back & forth to mooring field.
Like a normal dinghy, I would only tow it in calm seas.

Don White wrote:
Gary wrote:

MMC wrote:

Damn expensive experience gathering! A good friend has lost 2
inflatables
while towing! He finally bought davits.....
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...



The reason I am interested in hearing from someone who has actually
towed a sit on top is because of all the types of towed dinghies, it
seems like it would be the best. It can't fill with water. It won't
suddenly weigh 1000 pounds. It is unsinkable. The only thing that I
can think of that would be of concern is it flipping over in a seaway
and diving. Painter chafe is a solveable problem.

Carrying one onboard is easy and I do that regularily. I don't tie it
to the guardrails/lifelines though. They are not strong enough for that.

Gaz



Usually, at this time, someone recommends the PortaBote.
It folds up smaller than your kayak for attaching to lifelines, yet
would keep you dry rowing back & forth to mooring field.
Like a normal dinghy, I would only tow it in calm seas.

Doesn't it also present a lot of area to a boarding sea? There is also
the looks thing. PortaBote's are really ugly. They make a MacGregor
look nice.

Gaz

On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 17:12:39 GMT, Gary wrote:

The only thing that I
can think of that would be of concern is it flipping over in a seaway
and diving.

Flipping over is a matter of "when", not "if". It would be good no
know in advance how it will react after it flips.

I've had 2 towed inflatables flip over, once with a 65 lb outboard
motor on the back, and 1 fiberglass dinghy capsize while being towed.
It happens with amazing speed under the right conditions, and it
doesn't have to be especially rough. I see no reason to think that a
kayak is immune.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 17:12:39 GMT, Gary wrote:


The only thing that I
can think of that would be of concern is it flipping over in a seaway
and diving.


Flipping over is a matter of "when", not "if". It would be good no
know in advance how it will react after it flips.

I've had 2 towed inflatables flip over, once with a 65 lb outboard
motor on the back, and 1 fiberglass dinghy capsize while being towed.
It happens with amazing speed under the right conditions, and it
doesn't have to be especially rough. I see no reason to think that a
kayak is immune.

I don't think the kayak would be immune to flipping. I am interested in
what it does after flipping. Unlike a hardshell dinghy, it won't fill
with water or behave like a drogue. Unlike a zodiac it shouldn't start
to come apart. The kayak can't fill with water and will either dive or
just flip back again. Remember, it is more like a log than a boat.

Gary

Logs dive. Actually, I think it would dive, depending on the speed it was
towed. It would surface immediately, but that would put a lot of strain on
the line.... hmmm...

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"Gary" wrote in message
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 17:12:39 GMT, Gary wrote:


The only thing that I can think of that would be of concern is it
flipping over in a seaway and diving.


Flipping over is a matter of "when", not "if". It would be good no
know in advance how it will react after it flips. I've had 2 towed
inflatables flip over, once with a 65 lb outboard
motor on the back, and 1 fiberglass dinghy capsize while being towed.
It happens with amazing speed under the right conditions, and it
doesn't have to be especially rough. I see no reason to think that a
kayak is immune.

I don't think the kayak would be immune to flipping. I am interested in
what it does after flipping. Unlike a hardshell dinghy, it won't fill
with water or behave like a drogue. Unlike a zodiac it shouldn't start to
come apart. The kayak can't fill with water and will either dive or just
flip back again. Remember, it is more like a log than a boat.

Gary