"Bryan" wrote:
"Rosalie B." wrote in message
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"Bryan" wrote:

Well, Isabelle and Ellen are little girls, so is my wife, she weighs 120
pounds. They do not bench 350 pounds and will never be stronger or bigger

You can call your wife a girl if you want to, but I don't think
Isabelle and Ellen are actually little girls. They are little or
small or petite women. I don't see what benching 350 lbs has to do
with anything. I don't think my husband can do that either, and
neither can most men (or boys).

Well Rosalie,

Girls are girls and boys are boys and symatics are symantics. When I spoke
of the fairer sex I spoke in terms of brute strength, girls (sorry, gentle
ladies) are not as strong as boys (Ooops, gentleman) in general but as
witnessed by the success of girl (Darn, gentle lady) sailors that does not
matter when sailing. If I miss a spot please feel free to substitute girl

I think that you have to be there to appreciate how condescending it
sounds to call grown women "girls". I don't think you would address a
black man as "boy" would you?

And making it seem like someone is making a big fuss over nothing is
one of the ways that people resist changing their terminology and
their basic attitudes.

*I* can call another woman a girl. You can call your wife a girl.
And I don't go with calling a chairman a chairperson because that's a
bit silly. But to me a little girl would be my 5 yo granddaughter. A
big girl would be my college age granddaughter. And anyone older than
that would surely no longer be a girl.

with any of the following lady/woman/madam/Miss/Mrs/Ms/gentle lady.......

than most guys. That said, they are great sailors with substantial
acomplishment, more than I will ever achieve. They also sail very large
boats with no power winches, huge rigs, in very demanding conditions. So
if these girls can sail large boats, why can't a couple cruise a 50, 60,
or
70 footer as a team? When cruisng you have the benefit of going in good

If something happens to one of the team the weaker member should be
able to handle the boat alone.

I agree completely but what does the size of the boat have to do with
handling it? Gear is sized accordingly and none of us can bench 350, well
most of us.

weather versus racing when you leave when the race starts. What exotic
gear

If you are doing a long passage, you probably are going to run into
weather regardless of when you leave or how carefully you watch the
weather.

If you are on a larger faster boat your chances of sailing in bad weather
are greatly reduced.

Not that much unless it is a REALLY fast boat. I hear this all the
time, but really - what chance did any boat in the Gulf have of
outrunning Katrina? And where would they have had to go to get out of
the way?

is on a Vendee that is not on a typical cruising boat?

They have better communication gear and someone is monitoring their
progress.

So? You still have to sail the boat not the guy (sorry gentleman) on the

I used to call the male persons that went to college with me guys
because I didn't think they were men yet and didn't want to call them
boys. Guys doesn't seem as fraught. And anyway, I'm not one. You
can call them guys-- if they don't object, I won't because it is not
my place to do so.

other end of the radio. I doubt Herb is coming to help.

Yes but you asked what differences there are and that is one that I
could name without being really aware of what the big race boats have
in the way of equipment.

Come to think of it they probably also have better, newer and more
high tech sails and maybe more of them (different kinds). They are
probably also more homogeneous in the equipment that they carry as
there are all varieties of cruising boats.
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You sound like fun Grandma Rosalie!

I like a little discussion from time to time.

"Armond Perretta" wrote in message
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Bryan wrote:
Honestly guys, I gotta laugh at some of this advice. Many claim you
can't handle larger yachts without huge crew, exotic gear, and mega
wallets. How many folks here have lived on, sailed, docked, bought,

I do agree that you don't need huge crew, exotic gear etc. We have a
manual windlass and no electric winches. Bit if I were to want to
single hand (as I've said elsewhere), I would get a smaller boat.

or maintained 50 footers, 60 footers, or 70 footers? Look at the
60's racing non-stop around the world by little girls.

That's what most of us do. Look at 'em. BTW, do _you_ do anything
different?

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Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://home.comcast.net/~kerrydeare

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