WaIIy wrote in
:

9/11 without a major terrorist

9/11 wasn't a terrorist attack. Even a CNN employee who watched the planes
fly into the towers said, live on the air but NEVER REPEATED, the planes
HAD NO WINDOWS. Ever see a passenger airliner with no windows? Look
closely at the BOTTOM of the planes in the videos available. Something is
hanging UNDER both jets! Passenger airliners have smooth flat bottoms, not
something hanging under them. 300 people said they had no windows....all
squashed. Then, there's that little flash from the bottom of BOTH planes
microseconds before impact. Wasn't a reflection because it shows on all
the tapes from different angles. What was that?....NEVER QUESTIONED.

Why does it take a team of engineers months to plan and execute getting a
building to implode with sophisticated, sequential explosions? How can
some Arabs make TWO of the largest buildings in America come STRAIGHT DOWN
by crashing a gazillion ton airliner into it SIDEWAYS in a few seconds?
And, more interestingly, how can Building 7 across the parking lot implode
WITHOUT anything crashing into it...straight down? Why do cops and firemen
report hearing SEQUENTIAL EXPLOSIONS as the jets crash into WTC? Who set
those charges???

Then there's the Pentagon.....simply amazing. A Boeing 727 with 6,400
pounds of people parts, all their luggage, air freight headed overseas,
mail, bank shipments, 8,600 gallons of JP9 that would burn in open air for
DAYS.....simply vaporizes....and America doesn't question it. Why? The
hole in the Pentagon BEFORE the roof collapsed TWENTY MINUTES later is way
too small for the fuselage of the jet. It won't fit! The tail is taller
than the building and it didn't hit the uncollapsed roof! The wings didn't
penetrate the building way wider than the hole....So? What happened to
them? They're not made of paper. Big jet engines, much larger than the
cable reels left on the lawn by the construction crews renovating the
building never touched the building but didn't land on the lawn, either!
Where the engines? wheels? seats? body parts? fuel oil fire for days?
wings? tail assembly? In many photos you can see wooden file cabinets,
papers, even a plastic computer monitor UNBURNED on the very edge of the
collapsed floors. The EXPLOSION, which shows blowing outward on the only 5
frames the Pentagon released to curious journalists, self-extinguished.
Have you ever seen diesel fuel EXPLODE? No? Fuel oil, even kerosene
BURNS. Gasoline eventually explodes if it gets time to vaporize. Fuel oil
doesn't vaporize unless you boil it first. Why not just release ALL the
footage from ALL the surveillance tapes...including the ones from the gas
station across the street the FBI confiscated minutes after the explosion?
Why not dispel all these nutcases by showing the PLANE actually penetrating
the building and coming apart. Why? Are we hiding something, as usual?

I believe we are. Someone uploaded a very interesting documentary to
alt.binaries.movies.divx a while back that questions these things, unlike
the TV propaganda shows we pass as "news". It comes from a radio show
called "The Power Hour". Ok, so he's a nutcase like Art Bell, very
entertaining. But, the VIDEOS shown in this documentary are REAL, right
off the air in most cases. Unplug your hatred of conspiracy groups for a
moment and take a look. The video has been uploaded many times to various
newsgroups so you don't really have to give him any money to see it. I
doubt your local government-supported library, however, will have a
copy...(c; Just look at its website pictures and don't read any of the
text. What IS that on the bottom of that "passenger jet" with NO TAIL LOGO
and a circular blue logo under the cockpit? Why DOESN'T that passenger jet
fit into the Pentagon hole and why did it take TWENTY MINUTES for the roof
to collapse? Why doesn't TV "news" show pictures BEFORE the roof
collapsed, ever? They wouldn't lie to us, again, would they?

http://www.911inplanesite.com/

Interesting topic but not about boats.....sorry.

--
Larry

WaIIy wrote in
:

Sorry, I mistakenly posted this to the wrong group.



Oops....It got my attention....I'm sorry too. Tell the government and the
Mossad it was all just a mistake....(c;

--
Larry

Larry wrote:
WaIIy wrote in
:


Sorry, I mistakenly posted this to the wrong group.




Oops....It got my attention....I'm sorry too. Tell the government and the
Mossad it was all just a mistake....(c;


Is any of this true...or just another Elvis conspiracy?

Larry wrote:

9/11 wasn't a terrorist attack. Even a CNN employee who watched the planes
fly into the towers said, live on the air but NEVER REPEATED, the planes
HAD NO WINDOWS. Ever see a passenger airliner with no windows? Look
closely at the BOTTOM of the planes in the videos available. Something is
hanging UNDER both jets! Passenger airliners have smooth flat bottoms, not
something hanging under them. 300 people said they had no windows....all
squashed. Then, there's that little flash from the bottom of BOTH planes
microseconds before impact. Wasn't a reflection because it shows on all
the tapes from different angles. What was that?....NEVER QUESTIONED.

Why does it take a team of engineers months to plan and execute getting a
building to implode with sophisticated, sequential explosions? How can
some Arabs make TWO of the largest buildings in America come STRAIGHT DOWN
by crashing a gazillion ton airliner into it SIDEWAYS in a few seconds?
And, more interestingly, how can Building 7 across the parking lot implode
WITHOUT anything crashing into it...straight down? Why do cops and firemen
report hearing SEQUENTIAL EXPLOSIONS as the jets crash into WTC? Who set
those charges???

Then there's the Pentagon.....simply amazing. A Boeing 727 with 6,400
pounds of people parts, all their luggage, air freight headed overseas,
mail, bank shipments, 8,600 gallons of JP9 that would burn in open air for
DAYS.....simply vaporizes....and America doesn't question it. Why? The
hole in the Pentagon BEFORE the roof collapsed TWENTY MINUTES later is way
too small for the fuselage of the jet. It won't fit! The tail is taller
than the building and it didn't hit the uncollapsed roof! The wings didn't
penetrate the building way wider than the hole....So? What happened to
them? They're not made of paper. Big jet engines, much larger than the
cable reels left on the lawn by the construction crews renovating the
building never touched the building but didn't land on the lawn, either!
Where the engines? wheels? seats? body parts? fuel oil fire for days?
wings? tail assembly? In many photos you can see wooden file cabinets,
papers, even a plastic computer monitor UNBURNED on the very edge of the
collapsed floors. The EXPLOSION, which shows blowing outward on the only 5
frames the Pentagon released to curious journalists, self-extinguished.
Have you ever seen diesel fuel EXPLODE? No? Fuel oil, even kerosene
BURNS. Gasoline eventually explodes if it gets time to vaporize. Fuel oil
doesn't vaporize unless you boil it first. Why not just release ALL the
footage from ALL the surveillance tapes...including the ones from the gas
station across the street the FBI confiscated minutes after the explosion?
Why not dispel all these nutcases by showing the PLANE actually penetrating
the building and coming apart. Why? Are we hiding something, as usual?

I believe we are. Someone uploaded a very interesting documentary to
alt.binaries.movies.divx a while back that questions these things, unlike
the TV propaganda shows we pass as "news". It comes from a radio show
called "The Power Hour". Ok, so he's a nutcase like Art Bell, very
entertaining. But, the VIDEOS shown in this documentary are REAL, right
off the air in most cases. Unplug your hatred of conspiracy groups for a
moment and take a look. The video has been uploaded many times to various
newsgroups so you don't really have to give him any money to see it. I
doubt your local government-supported library, however, will have a
copy...(c; Just look at its website pictures and don't read any of the
text. What IS that on the bottom of that "passenger jet" with NO TAIL LOGO
and a circular blue logo under the cockpit? Why DOESN'T that passenger jet
fit into the Pentagon hole and why did it take TWENTY MINUTES for the roof
to collapse? Why doesn't TV "news" show pictures BEFORE the roof
collapsed, ever? They wouldn't lie to us, again, would they?

http://www.911inplanesite.com/

Interesting topic but not about boats.....sorry.


Jeez, Larry...you really have dived off the deep end here.
When you scratch your ear, do you hear voices from another planet?

In article , Larry
wrote:

WaIIy wrote in
:

9/11 without a major terrorist

9/11 wasn't a terrorist attack. Even a CNN employee who watched the planes
fly into the towers said, live on the air but NEVER REPEATED, the planes
HAD NO WINDOWS.

Larry,

You know I usually don't say personal things like this, but are you off
your meds?

9/11 may be the most carefully researched and documented event in human
history.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD)
Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html
Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Larry,
Please excuse Harry he suffers from "Krause Syndrome" also known as
Narcissistic Personality Disorder Diagnostic.
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for
admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in
a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

1.. has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates
achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without
commensurate achievements)
2.. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance,
beauty, or ideal love
3.. believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be
understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people
(or institutions)
4.. requires excessive admiration
5.. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of
especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her
expectations
6.. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to
achieve his or her own ends
7.. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings
and needs of others
8.. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him
or her
9.. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes





"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Larry wrote:

9/11 wasn't a terrorist attack. Even a CNN employee who watched the
planes fly into the towers said, live on the air but NEVER REPEATED, the
planes HAD NO WINDOWS. Ever see a passenger airliner with no windows?
Look closely at the BOTTOM of the planes in the videos available.
Something is hanging UNDER both jets! Passenger airliners have smooth
flat bottoms, not something hanging under them. 300 people said they had
no windows....all squashed. Then, there's that little flash from the
bottom of BOTH planes microseconds before impact. Wasn't a reflection
because it shows on all the tapes from different angles. What was
that?....NEVER QUESTIONED.

Why does it take a team of engineers months to plan and execute getting a
building to implode with sophisticated, sequential explosions? How can
some Arabs make TWO of the largest buildings in America come STRAIGHT
DOWN by crashing a gazillion ton airliner into it SIDEWAYS in a few
seconds? And, more interestingly, how can Building 7 across the parking
lot implode WITHOUT anything crashing into it...straight down? Why do
cops and firemen report hearing SEQUENTIAL EXPLOSIONS as the jets crash
into WTC? Who set those charges???

Then there's the Pentagon.....simply amazing. A Boeing 727 with 6,400
pounds of people parts, all their luggage, air freight headed overseas,
mail, bank shipments, 8,600 gallons of JP9 that would burn in open air
for DAYS.....simply vaporizes....and America doesn't question it. Why?
The hole in the Pentagon BEFORE the roof collapsed TWENTY MINUTES later
is way too small for the fuselage of the jet. It won't fit! The tail is
taller than the building and it didn't hit the uncollapsed roof! The
wings didn't penetrate the building way wider than the hole....So? What
happened to them? They're not made of paper. Big jet engines, much
larger than the cable reels left on the lawn by the construction crews
renovating the building never touched the building but didn't land on the
lawn, either! Where the engines? wheels? seats? body parts? fuel oil
fire for days? wings? tail assembly? In many photos you can see wooden
file cabinets, papers, even a plastic computer monitor UNBURNED on the
very edge of the collapsed floors. The EXPLOSION, which shows blowing
outward on the only 5 frames the Pentagon released to curious
journalists, self-extinguished. Have you ever seen diesel fuel EXPLODE?
No? Fuel oil, even kerosene BURNS. Gasoline eventually explodes if it
gets time to vaporize. Fuel oil doesn't vaporize unless you boil it
first. Why not just release ALL the footage from ALL the surveillance
tapes...including the ones from the gas station across the street the FBI
confiscated minutes after the explosion? Why not dispel all these
nutcases by showing the PLANE actually penetrating the building and
coming apart. Why? Are we hiding something, as usual?

I believe we are. Someone uploaded a very interesting documentary to
alt.binaries.movies.divx a while back that questions these things, unlike
the TV propaganda shows we pass as "news". It comes from a radio show
called "The Power Hour". Ok, so he's a nutcase like Art Bell, very
entertaining. But, the VIDEOS shown in this documentary are REAL, right
off the air in most cases. Unplug your hatred of conspiracy groups for a
moment and take a look. The video has been uploaded many times to
various newsgroups so you don't really have to give him any money to see
it. I doubt your local government-supported library, however, will have
a copy...(c; Just look at its website pictures and don't read any of the
text. What IS that on the bottom of that "passenger jet" with NO TAIL
LOGO and a circular blue logo under the cockpit? Why DOESN'T that
passenger jet fit into the Pentagon hole and why did it take TWENTY
MINUTES for the roof to collapse? Why doesn't TV "news" show pictures
BEFORE the roof collapsed, ever? They wouldn't lie to us, again, would
they?

http://www.911inplanesite.com/

Interesting topic but not about boats.....sorry.


Jeez, Larry...you really have dived off the deep end here.
When you scratch your ear, do you hear voices from another planet?

"Juan Valdez" coffee wrote in :

Please excuse Harry he suffers from "Krause Syndrome"

Oh, that's the Krausebot. It's some kind of harrassing computer program.
It's been running on rec.boats for years and usually stays over there,
ruining the newsgroup for most users. Just ignore it. I killfiled it here
but see the reflections from time to time from others feeding its ego.

--
Larry

Harry Krause wrote:

Oh...your new buddy, Juan? He's the troll of trolls, and posts to
newsgroups with more than 50 different IDs. The two of you could have a
wonderful time exchanging views and more on your various mental illnesses.

Here's an exchange regarding herr e. kkkrause's back-door butt-buddy,
john weasely gilmer III that shows what a hypocrite kkkrause is
regarding trolls and aliases. That's right, hard evidence that
kkkrause's twin brother from a different mother is one of the worst
scumbags to hide behind dozens of internet aliases!!!

herr e. kkkrause... not just a handgun hypocrite, but, an all around
poor excuse for a human being. Imagine all the needy folks that could
thrive on the natural resources and food that herr e. kkkrause
squanders via his useless existence!!!

----------------------

With the evidence of your dozens of aliases included below, Juan
Valdez is probably you failing to play both sides of a story...
AGAIN.

ROLF!!

Who's ROLF?

Grow up Karen. Grow the hell up.

That older woman really put a whammy on you, huh? I bet you have
a tattoo of her surrounded by the words: "The One That Got Away"!!

Immediately below are sets of message headers each with a
different alias used by john weasely gilmer III via the two
posting hosts:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

Below that is the inclusion of a partial list of the dozens of
aliases he has been known to use.

So, who's the TROLL, gilwad?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

---------------------------

From: PirateJohn
Newsgroups:
alt.obituaries,alt.fan.frank-zappa,alt.fan.oj-simpson,alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: Hey! Dumb Cmelak!
Date: 23 Aug 2005 19:32:21 -0700
Message-ID: . com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189


From: Billy's Daddy
Newsgroups:
alt.fan.jimmy-buffett,alt.fan.frank-zappa,alt.fan.OJ-simpson
Subject: Junk Motorcycle Still For Sale
Date: 22 Aug 2005 20:54:36 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189

From: "Jose"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Hoodoo wants you to know ...
Date: 13 Aug 2005 07:50:56 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189

From: "Smelly Billy"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: You pal Cmelak/Hoodoo is trolling other newsgroup again ...
Date: 7 Aug 2005 19:48:50 -0700
Message-ID: . com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189


===============================================
===============================================

From: "PirateJohn"
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Subject: Another (dead soldier from Iraq War) family blasts Bush
Date: 17 Aug 2005 14:50:50 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

-----------

From: "Juan"
Newsgroups:
alt.politics.immigration,alt.obituaries,fl.general ,alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: The Gaspar/Anderson obsession
Date: 1 Aug 2005 08:25:30 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

God, you trolls and your multiple personalities are so ****ing naive.

----------------------------------------

From: "Billy's Daddy"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: Report Abuse
Date: 17 Aug 2005 10:14:19 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

-------------------------------------------

From: "Guy Good"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Hoodoo wants you to know ...
Date: 12 Aug 2005 14:28:19 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

=========================================
=========================================

Known and verified aliases:











OSPAM


Bill Cmelak loves his Hoodoo

"Bill Cmelak"
"Smelly Billy"

~~~~


http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/Cmelak.htm , dedicated to Antigo,
Wisconsin's very own ex-wife-beating, chronically drunk, high-volume
posting troll, William "Bill" Cmelak, a/k/a . A
former truck driver now claiming disability for a variety of physical
and mental ailments, Cmelak lives a lonely life in the woods in a
mobile home where he trolls 24/7, fondles his gun collection, and just
in general has become the town idiot of the little hamlets of Pearson
and Antigo, WI.


Described by a police detective as a "sick ****" because of his online
threats to murder and rape a newsgroup participant, Cmelak now spends
his days posting complete and total nonsense about the numerous people
that he disagrees with.

From: Jose
Newsgroups: rec.boats.cruising
Subject: I love brilliant women
Date: 25 Aug 2005 10:08:14 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

Jose wrote:
~~~~


http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/Cmelak.htm , dedicated to Antigo,
Wisconsin's very own ex-wife-beating, chronically drunk, high-volume
posting troll, William "Bill" Cmelak, a/k/a . A
former truck driver now claiming disability for a variety of physical
and mental ailments, Cmelak lives a lonely life in the woods in a
mobile home where he trolls 24/7, fondles his gun collection, and just
in general has become the town idiot of the little hamlets of Pearson
and Antigo, WI.


Described by a police detective as a "sick ****" because of his online
threats to murder and rape a newsgroup participant, Cmelak now spends
his days posting complete and total nonsense about the numerous people
that he disagrees with.



Here with proper citation is evidence defining the sociopath who
fabricates the type of crap above:

--------------

Immediately below are sets of message headers each with a
different alias used by john weasely gilmer III via the two
posting hosts:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

Below that is the inclusion of a partial list of the dozens of
aliases he has been known to use.

So, who's the TROLL, gilwad?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

---------------------------

From: PirateJohn
Newsgroups:
alt.obituaries,alt.fan.frank-zappa,alt.fan.oj-simpson,alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: Hey! Dumb Cmelak!
Date: 23 Aug 2005 19:32:21 -0700
Message-ID: . com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189


From: Billy's Daddy
Newsgroups:
alt.fan.jimmy-buffett,alt.fan.frank-zappa,alt.fan.OJ-simpson
Subject: Junk Motorcycle Still For Sale
Date: 22 Aug 2005 20:54:36 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189

From: "Jose"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Hoodoo wants you to know ...
Date: 13 Aug 2005 07:50:56 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189

From: "Smelly Billy"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: You pal Cmelak/Hoodoo is trolling other newsgroup again ...
Date: 7 Aug 2005 19:48:50 -0700
Message-ID: . com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189


===============================================
===============================================

From: "PirateJohn"
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Subject: Another (dead soldier from Iraq War) family blasts Bush
Date: 17 Aug 2005 14:50:50 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

-----------

From: "Juan"
Newsgroups:
alt.politics.immigration,alt.obituaries,fl.general ,alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: The Gaspar/Anderson obsession
Date: 1 Aug 2005 08:25:30 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

God, you trolls and your multiple personalities are so ****ing naive.

----------------------------------------

From: "Billy's Daddy"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.jimmy-buffett
Subject: Report Abuse
Date: 17 Aug 2005 10:14:19 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

-------------------------------------------

From: "Guy Good"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Hoodoo wants you to know ...
Date: 12 Aug 2005 14:28:19 -0700
Message-ID: .com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.177.232.245

=========================================
=========================================

Known and verified aliases:











OSPAM


Bill Cmelak loves his Hoodoo

"Bill Cmelak"
"Smelly Billy"













============================================
============================================

The information below is verified data regarding the malicious
malcontent who initiated and perpetuates all this despicable
behavior.

Known and verified aliases:











OSPAM


Bill Cmelak loves his Hoodoo

"Bill Cmelak"
"Smelly Billy"













- - -

From Wed, 29 Dec 2004 23:04:01 EST
From:
To:
Return-Path:
Delivered-To:
Message-ID:
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 23:04:01 EST
Subject: Food for thought

If I post a $500 reward for information leading to your identity,
do you think that anyone will give you up? How about some of the
folks that you have traded CD's with?

Just a thought. And if you want to publicize this otherwise
private email go right ahead. Maybe that will help to get the
ball rolling.

- - -

From: Juan
Newsgroups: alt.fan.frank-zappa
Subject: Reward for Hoodoo's identification
Date: 2 Jan 2005 03:52:07 -0800
Message-ID: .com

I am offering a $500 reward for the identification of Hoodoo. Don't
want to do anything illegal or immoral here, but it's simply
important
that I get a handle on who he is so that I can get some legal action
going.

- - -

From: Juan
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Subject: Poor Juan Gilmer - Usenet Imbecile
Date: 1 Jan 2005 18:53:17 -0800
Message-ID: .com

Tell you guys what. $300 for the first person who can give me a real
world name and address for Hoodoo.

- - -

From: Juan
Newsgroups: alt.fan.oj-simpson
Subject: Fighting truth decay every day - now some facts

", aka, 'guanito'
Date: 2 Jan 2005 03:29:56 -0800
Message-ID: .com

Yes, folks, there is now a reward for the identification of Hoodoo.
Anyone who wants to take a shot at it please let me know.

- - -

From: Juan
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Happy New Year from John Gilmer
Date: 2 Jan 2005 03:27:14 -0800
Message-ID: .com

And, yes, there is now a reward for anyone who can provide
information and identify the Hoodoo troll

- - -

From: Juan
Newsgroups: alt.fan.oj-simpson
Subject: Fighting truth decay every day - now some facts
", aka, 'guanito'
Date: 2 Jan 2005 03:32:14 -0800
Message-ID: .com

And yes folks, as he said there is now a bounty for the
udentification of the troll known as Hoodoo. If you have any ideas
let me know.

- - -

From: "BuccaneerJuan"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.oj-simpson
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 6:37 AM
Subject: Is Karen Anderson still trolling this newsgroup?

Try this link as to who I am:
http://www.buccaneerpublishing.com/AdventureGuide.htm

- - -

Whois: buccaneerpublishing.com

buccaneerpublishing.com = [ 66.218.79.165 ]
Domain Name.......... buccaneerpublishing.com
Creation Date........ 2004-06-08
Registration Date.... 2004-06-08
Expiry Date.......... 2005-06-08
Organisation Name.... Administrator
Organisation Address. 12526 Agatite Rd.
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Jacksonville
Organisation Address. 32258
Organisation Address. FL
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES
Admin Name........... Administrator Buccaneer Press Inc.
Admin Address........ 12526 Agatite Rd.
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ Jacksonville
Admin Address........ 32258
Admin Address........ FL
Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
Admin Email..........
Admin Phone.......... 1.9048748633

- - -

From:
http://anon1.coj.net/realestate/Fina...No=158365-0000

Duval County Tax Collector

2004 Real Estate Tax Summary

Property Information
Real Estate No. 158365-0000-7

Name DEBORAH LYNCH
Address 12526 AGATITE RD

Mailing Address for the Property
12526 AGATITE RD
JACKSONVILLE FL 32258 - 5306

Legal Description of Property
28-41 23-4S-27E GS
JULINGTON COUNTRY CLUB ESTATES R/P
LOT 6 BLK 5

Tax Information

Assessed Value 142260 Govt. Tax Value 117260 Exempt Code H
RE Tax Lien Amt. Non Ad Val By Int. Amt. By Pen Amt. Gross Tax
2,199.01 .00 .00 .00 .00 2,199.01

CURRENT YEAR TAX TOTAL AMOUNT DUE IF PAID IN
November December January February March April
2,111.05 2,133.04 2,155.03 2,177.02 2,199.01 2,268.73

Payment Information
Paid Code UNPAID Paid Date Exception Code 000

- - -

Since he brags about his numerous GPS units so often, here
are the coordinates to the house address so he can find it better:

Decimal Degrees Deg:Min:Sec
Lat: 30.142338 30:08:32.417N
Lon: -081.561846 81:33:42.646W

And,a web-address for a map to pinpoint it:
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp...12526+Agatite+
Rd+&city=Jacksonville&state=FL

Shorter alternative for that long link:
http://snipurl.com/bpe9

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From the archives at Google
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.obituaries/
[The comments at the bottom of the judgment are by the person who
initially posted the message containing the following information
about this DEADBEAT.]

DEBTOR: GILMER, JOHN
CREDITOR: NORWEST FINANCIAL AMERICA INC
AMOUNT: $ 1,233
NUMBER: B8972P2221
TYPE: OPEN JUDGMENT
ENTERED: 6/11/1998
STATUS: OPEN

So much for all that independently wealthy bull****. Ya' can't
even pick up a $1200 tab.

$1200 ... Since 1998. A judgment for $1200. Ya' ain't nuttin' but
a slug. A deadbeat.

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And then there's the following message he posted. He denies that
he did post it because it didn't originate at AOL which allows
him to hide behind numerous identities but, you know very well
how he lies. With all of the character assassination and other
malicious mayhem he commits, you don't think he could hold
himself back from branching out to other domains and areas of
specific, and sexual, interests, do you?

From: PirateJohn
Newsgroups: alt.sex.stories.gay
Subject: Gay Bikers
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:01:42 -0500

Any Gay Bikers out there?

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http://www.bmwsearch.net/main/digest...-20031399.html

Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 13:06:14 -0400
From: JGilmer
Subject: BMW: Shoei Syncrotec replacement?

- --PirateJohn--
a/k/a
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
John W. Gilmer
Data Manager
Moffitt Corporation
Jacksonville Beach, FL

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That leads to the following information:

http://www.moffitthvac.com/
Moffitt Corporation
1351 13th Avenue South, Suite 130
Jacksonville Beach, FL 32250
Phone: 904/241-9944
Fax: 904/246-8333

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And, several of the women he's lied about during the nearly two year
period in which he was apparently 'sweetheart scamming' an older
woman of financial security but infirm health. A woman who, by
his own admission, was not good looking but whom he knew inherited
money and enjoyed traveling about the USA with her travel trailer,
and, flights overseas as well. After traveling across the country to
meet him at his urging, he obviously screwed up the date and time of
their meeting because she caught him red-handed, so to speak, with
some bimbo.

http://www.bmwsearch.net/main/digest...-20012002.html
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:46:57 -0600
From:
Subject: BMW: Ride To Savannah VII Starts Tomorrow
Scheduled to attend:

Joey Gilmer Jacksonville, FL
Pirate John Jacksonville, FL

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http://members.aol.com/theshoprag2/aug04/page2.htm
BMWNEF was represented at the Asheville Rally by the following
members:

JOHN GILMER AND DEBORAH

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From: (BuccaneerJuan)
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Date: 02 Jan 2005 03:07:38 GMT
Subject: Life gives you lemons, you make lemonade
Message-ID:

Karen/Hoodoo, I have to thank you. I was just checking some
search engine statistics and was fearing that the problems that you
were causing might negatively affect people's abilities to find my
writing projects.

Naw. You have driven folks to my new website and and they are
checking out my book project, what I have written, downloading
my Keys Guide, etc.

Thanks!

They say that bad publicity is better than no publicity at all,
but with you so ineptly trolling me and posting laughably fraudulant
nonsense about me even folks that I have argued with on other
newsgroups are sympathetic.

Guess that I couldn't have done it without you

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From: Juan
Newsgroups:
alt.fan.jimmy-buffett,alt.obituaries,alt.politics.immigration,al t.mexi
co
Subject: Trolls and their obsessions with Mr. Perfect
Date: 27 Jan 2005 08:56:44 -0800
Message-ID: . com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.129.77.189

Anywho, it's getting down to the point where the girlfriend told
me not to worry about her privacy (which had been a concern of mine)
and to give the jackasses both barrels,

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From: Xxxx Xxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxxxx
Newsgroups:
alt.obituaries,alt.fan.jimmy-buffett,alt.politics.immigration
Subject: Deborah Lynch was Trolls and their obsessions
with Mr. Perfect
Date: 27 Jan 2005 18:45:01 -0800

In article
. com,
Juan says...
Anywho, it's getting down to the point where the girlfriend
told me not to worry about her privacy

Great! Now you can tell me who she scammed to get put on
probation.

I'll be waiting.

How do you know she is on probation? Site please, Xxxx, if that is
your real name.

Deborah is a real estate broker and works he

http://www.smartpages.com/home/homet...rtymanagement7

She had her license pulled for quite some time and was put on
probation for embezzling a real estate escrow account. Her license
has recently been reinstated.

You can go to www.myfloridalicense.com and do a search for
Deborah Lynch, Jacksonville Florida. There you will see that her
license was involuntary suspended back in 2003. That should give
you a start.

From there you can dig up even more dirt on the hag.

She has a lot skeletons in her closet. Stay tuned. More to come.

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https://www.myfloridalicense.com/licensing/

License Type Name Name Type License
Number/
Rank Status/
Expires City
Real Estate Broker or Sales LYNCH, DEBORAH Primary
BK3010796
Broker Invol Inactive, Active
03/31/2003 JACKSONVILLE
Real Estate Broker or Sales LYNCH, DEBORAH Primary
BK560825
Broker Sales Current, Active
03/31/2005 JACKSONVILLE

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https://www.myfloridalicense.com/LicenseDetail.asp

Licensee Information
Name: LYNCH, DEBORAH (Primary Name)
(DBA Name)
Main Address: 12526 AGATITE ROAD
JACKSONVILLE Florida 32258
County: DUVAL

License Mailing:

LicenseLocation: 3780 KORI RD #13
JACKSONVILLE FL 32257
County: DUVAL

License Information
License Type: Real Estate Broker or Sales
Rank: Broker Sales
License Number: BK560825
Status: Current,Active
Licensure Date: 05/24/1993
Expires: 03/31/2005

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http://www.smartpages.com/home/

Hometown Realty (904) 288-9293
3780 Kori Rd
Jacksonville, FL 32257

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From: XxxXxxx
Newsgroups:
alt.fan.jimmy-buffett,alt.obituaries,alt.politics.immigration,al t.mexi
co
Subject: IMPORTANT! Juan The Wuss
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:59:12 GMT

I do believe that Mary Gilmer in Danville, Kentucky needs to be
contacted. Her son needs HELP before he hurts someone...or himself.
He clearly is a physical threat to ME.


--

I'm smarter, bigger, stronger, and a lot meaner than you are.
You also won't be the first person that I didn't like who I
had to kill. Legally. -- john wesley gilmer III