wrote:
snippage
you sound like an angry person
time to go sailing
or perhaps you have a gun or three that need cleaning?

prodigal1 wrote:
wrote:
snippage
you sound like an angry person
time to go sailing
or perhaps you have a gun or three that need cleaning?

Your inference is amiss, I am a happy and contented person. I simply
do not suffer fools who blame others for their own behavior easily, and
I feel such are a detriment to the sailing world and ultimately to
those of us who sail in prudence and peace.

wrote:

Your inference is amiss, I am a happy and contented person. I simply
do not suffer fools who blame others for their own behavior easily, and
I feel such are a detriment to the sailing world and ultimately to
those of us who sail in prudence and peace.

then I stand corrected

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:17:33 -0400, prodigal1 wrote:

Vito wrote:
snip

And if I'm to compare several candidates I want to see scores on
standardized tests.

The results of standardized testing provide only at best a simplistic
and at worse, an irrelevant answer to the question you're asking.
I'm always surprised when I see/read people comments indicating that
these blunt instruments have some sort of validity.

OK, time for a definition of terms he What I am interested in
pursuing is not "homeschooling" in the sense of someone completely off
the radar of a standardized education, but "distance learning",
whereby my kid, living on a boat, is educated to the standards of my
land-based jurisdiction, and receives the standard credits and
credentials.

And, if he proves able, is allowed to accelerate his learning at his
own pace in subjects of his choosing.

This would require flexibility on the part of the issuing schoolboard,
but as I live in a city of several million, and know of several fellow
citizens who've taught kids on boats, AND it is anticipated that my
wife will have earned a teaching certificate by then and herself will
be the "in-house" teacher, I don't think we, with the use of modern
communications, patience and the stimulating environment of the sea,
will have a lot of trouble. The kid's already bright, willfull and
motivated to learn at 3 3/4...I expect he'll be running plots by age
eight G.

R.

Stephen Trapani wrote in
:

The key problem on a boat is the child needs to have opportunities to
explore what interests them. This could present some major challenges to
the homeschooling parent on a boat.


There's the point. Maybe the child doesn't WANT to live on the boat
without his friends, particularly his girlfriend, without his bike, without
a real neighborhood full of other kids to socialize with.
But...alas....DADDY DOES and he's forced to go. He may not tell Daddy he
doesn't want to live on that cramped little isolated island in the middle
of nowhere because he'll cause a fight, hurt daddy's feelings, etc.....but
he's lost interest in the novelty...no TV...no internet...no friends...no
school activities...just living on that deserted desert island of
fiberglass.

--
Larry

You know you've had a rough night when you wake up and your outlined in
chalk.

On 22 Jun 2005 14:03:32 -0700, wrote:



One wonders whether this miscreant may have realized that a great many
of the residents of these countries consider his own to be a ****ing
dump, too, except for it's inestimably greater & more universal
arrogance that tempts everyone to rip its vacationers off by any means
available?

People like this guy HELP CAUSE piracy.

So let me get this straight: because you don't like my country (and
which country is that?) and my opinions, it's okay to steal from me
and steal my boat?

What are you, homeschooled?

R.

"Vito" wrote in
:

I've done a lot of hiring for well-paying jobs. Employers want
credentials. Your home-schooled kid may be better educated than the
product of PS101 but do you have a paper that says so, or that (s)he
has any education at all. And if I'm to compare several candidates I
want to see scores on standardized tests.




And, armed with the information this applicant lived the first 15 years of
his life on a fiberglass island like a hermit....would you think he'd fit
into a busy office, factory, "department" in a large, heavily-populated
business? I wouldn't.

Home schooling's isolationists are bad enough. Pile that on top of living
with those independent-minded hermits at the dock and I think you're doing
serious damage to the poor kid. Take him on a cruise, by all means! But
make him live years on a boat....NOT.


--
Larry

You know you've had a rough night when you wake up and your outlined in
chalk.

Larry W4CSC wrote:

Stephen Trapani wrote in
:


The key problem on a boat is the child needs to have opportunities to
explore what interests them. This could present some major challenges to
the homeschooling parent on a boat.



There's the point. Maybe the child doesn't WANT to live on the boat
without his friends, particularly his girlfriend, without his bike, without
a real neighborhood full of other kids to socialize with.
But...alas....DADDY DOES and he's forced to go. He may not tell Daddy he
doesn't want to live on that cramped little isolated island in the middle
of nowhere because he'll cause a fight, hurt daddy's feelings, etc.....but
he's lost interest in the novelty...no TV...no internet...no friends...no
school activities...just living on that deserted desert island of
fiberglass.


Yeah, I'm against that.

--
Stephen

-------

For any proposition there is always some sufficiently narrow
interpretation of its terms, such that it turns out true, and
some sufficiently wide interpretation such that it turns out
false...concept stretching will refute *any* statement, and will
leave no true statement whatsoever.
-- Imre Lakatos

"Stephen Trapani" wrote
I did answer him, but maybe you'll like this better:

http://www.home4schoolgear.com/famoushomeschooler.html

http://users.safeaccess.com/olsen/famous.html

All old & out of date - from times when everybody was home schooled.

Even on these very incomplete lists you can see there have been plenty
of successful homeschoolers, no matter how you measure "success."

I'm an employer also. What matters most to me is past work experience
......
homeschoolers would do well on such tests. Why wouldn't they?

Homeschoolers may do well IF they take the tests in a proctored environment.
Do they?

I believe most colleges want to see High School transcripts before admitting
students to degree programs. Is this not true? If so, where do
homeschoolers get them. Will colleges believe parents?

Most job req's I see begin with "A degree in XXX from an accredited
institution plus ..." Even sub-professional jobs want a high school diploma
or GED. I guess homeschoolers can begin with a GED but the assumption tends
to be that the candidate had a problem with school.

Homeschoolers may be better educated but if I have five ap's for one job
(typical) I'll begin by interviewing the one who looks best- and, other
things being equal, that won't be the guy with a GED. If the 1st or 2nd
applicant seems good I'll hire him/her and send the rest dear john letters.
Tain't fair but .... That's why I believe you may be hurting your kids
futures by not getting them the credentials they'll need. If you can home
school AND get the credentials by all means do so.

Larry W4CSC wrote:
"Vito" wrote in
:

I've done a lot of hiring for well-paying jobs. Employers want
credentials. Your home-schooled kid may be better educated than the
product of PS101 but do you have a paper that says so, or that (s)he
has any education at all. And if I'm to compare several candidates I
want to see scores on standardized tests.




And, armed with the information this applicant lived the first 15 years of
his life on a fiberglass island like a hermit....would you think he'd fit
into a busy office, factory, "department" in a large, heavily-populated
business? I wouldn't.

Home schooling's isolationists are bad enough. Pile that on top of living
with those independent-minded hermits at the dock and I think you're doing
serious damage to the poor kid. Take him on a cruise, by all means! But
make him live years on a boat....NOT.

It's almost unspeakably sad, if not revolting, that some of the above
posters have actually been, or are, PARENTS. But they would never
undersant WHY.