On Thu, 19 May 2005 19:22:29 +0000 (UTC), Peggie Hall
wrote:

Boooh Hooooo! Nobody loves me anymore. Nobody's posting any
questions about sewage and boat sewage systems. I feel old and
useless. I realize I AM old and useless but I just hate it when I
FEEL old and useless...

C'mon people. How about a sanitation question or two to cheer me
up?



Geeze, I bought your book. Isn't that enough?

Sean

"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
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Boooh Hooooo! Nobody loves me anymore. Nobody's posting any
questions about sewage and boat sewage systems. I feel old and
useless. I realize I AM old and useless but I just hate it when I
FEEL old and useless...

C'mon people. How about a sanitation question or two to cheer me
up?


I'll be asking questions next week. Boat is finally off the hard. I'll be
transferring her to my slip over the weekend. End of last year I had an
electrical smell (beter tahn smelling you know what...) after flushing - I'm
guessing it's the macerator pump. I'll be checking it out this weekend and
suspect I'll be here with some questions.

Fortunately for you Peggy, poop questions are a fact of life that won't go
away.....

Sandy K.

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 19:22:29 +0000 (UTC), Peggie Hall
wrote:

Boooh Hooooo! Nobody loves me anymore. Nobody's posting any
questions about sewage and boat sewage systems. I feel old and
useless. I realize I AM old and useless but I just hate it when I
FEEL old and useless...


Peggie has, over the years, been an (if not, *the*) outstanding
contributor to all of the rec.boats.* newsgroups. This is a
counterfeit post, certainly not made by Peggie, and illustrates the
depths that some of these newsgroup vandals are willing to stoop.

Beware of those willing to "save" the newsgroup by posting obscenities
and employing ridicule and derision of other posters... even those
driven to post unacceptable quantities of unacceptable political spam.

My suggestion is, if you are capable of filtering out unwanted
messages, delete all of those messages sent through even one
anonymiser and any message with political content.

The newsgroups are bound to win... boating surely will!


Thanks for the heads up. I was suspicious from the start.

We indeed need to put an end to this. Is there anyone out there that can
trace where this poster is located and his/her IP number? Certainly we
cannot let a simple remailer beat us.

Just ignore them. It's the best method.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"JimH" wrote in message
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 19:22:29 +0000 (UTC), Peggie Hall
wrote:

Boooh Hooooo! Nobody loves me anymore. Nobody's posting any
questions about sewage and boat sewage systems. I feel old and
useless. I realize I AM old and useless but I just hate it when I
FEEL old and useless...


Peggie has, over the years, been an (if not, *the*) outstanding
contributor to all of the rec.boats.* newsgroups. This is a
counterfeit post, certainly not made by Peggie, and illustrates the
depths that some of these newsgroup vandals are willing to stoop.

Beware of those willing to "save" the newsgroup by posting obscenities
and employing ridicule and derision of other posters... even those
driven to post unacceptable quantities of unacceptable political spam.

My suggestion is, if you are capable of filtering out unwanted
messages, delete all of those messages sent through even one
anonymiser and any message with political content.

The newsgroups are bound to win... boating surely will!


Thanks for the heads up. I was suspicious from the start.

We indeed need to put an end to this. Is there anyone out there that can
trace where this poster is located and his/her IP number? Certainly we
cannot let a simple remailer beat us.

Hear, hear!

Why in gawd's name would anybody want to pick on Peggie?

There's a certain group of folks who seem to get nervous and resentful
whenever somebody with professional experience in a field offers an
opinion. It's almost as though the logic is, "nobody who knows what
they're talking about should be allowed to comment, as it makes those
of us posting SWAG about various topics or unable to support or own
contrary opinions by any means beyond name calling and personal attacks
look very silly as a result."

wrote in message
oups.com...
Hear, hear!

Why in gawd's name ..

The name is spelled GOD. Have you spoken to Him recently?

"Sean" none wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 19:22:29 +0000 (UTC), Peggie Hall
wrote:

Boooh Hooooo! Nobody loves me anymore. Nobody's posting any
questions about sewage and boat sewage systems. I feel old and
useless. I realize I AM old and useless but I just hate it when I
FEEL old and useless...

C'mon people. How about a sanitation question or two to cheer me
up?



Geeze, I bought your book. Isn't that enough?

Obviously not, Sean.

LP

On Thu, 19 May 2005 19:22:29 +0000 (UTC), Peggie Hall
wrote:

Boooh Hooooo! Nobody loves me anymore. Nobody's posting any

C'mon people. How about a sanitation question or two to cheer me
up?


Peggy:

I'll rise to the challange. You argue that a holding tank needs lots
of ventillation to prevent odors. Most tanks don't have a large vent
hose so little exchange of air occurs and they are non-arobic.

Do you know of any system that uses a small air pump to bubble air
through the sewage to oxygenate it. Seems to me a small aquarium pump
would work but they all run on 115 volts and are noisy. This addition
would also require another hole in the tank but that is not hard to do
and would be worth the effort if the odors were eliminated.

bill
olcbill at charter dot net

Bill Deutschman, PhD Providing Laser Safety Training,
Oregon Laser Consultants Safety Audits, Computer Safety
455 Hillside Avenue Programs and CDRH Certification
Klamath Falls OR 97601-2337 for Laser Users.
541.882.3295

Comments Below:

"Bill Deutschman" wrote in message
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Peggy:

I'll rise to the challange. You argue that a holding tank needs lots
of ventillation to prevent odors. Most tanks don't have a large vent
hose so little exchange of air occurs and they are non-arobic.

Do you know of any system that uses a small air pump to bubble air
through the sewage to oxygenate it. Seems to me a small aquarium pump
would work but they all run on 115 volts and are noisy. This addition
would also require another hole in the tank but that is not hard to do
and would be worth the effort if the odors were eliminated.

bill
olcbill at charter dot net

Bill Deutschman, PhD Providing Laser Safety Training,
Oregon Laser Consultants Safety Audits, Computer Safety
455 Hillside Avenue Programs and CDRH Certification
Klamath Falls OR 97601-2337 for Laser Users.
541.882.3295

Hi Bill, I'll save Peggie the trouble and post her previous answer to the
same question:

Roger Long wrote:
Peggie,

I see some rather pricey system for pumping air into holding tanks to
aerate them. I'd like to try rigging up my own. How much air does it
take? Is there a critical amount below which nothing useful happens
or does any air help?

The Groco Sweetank pump moves 1.7 liters of air/minute, which is about
the minimum that'll work. Two things are important: a sufficient amount
of air to aerate the contents, and piping to distribute it throughout
the tank. Otherwise it'll only push foul gasses out the vent all the
time instead of only when the head is flushed.

You can see the compete manual for the Sweetank he
http://www.groco.net/parts/data/622.pdf


I'd like to avoid the 12 volt drain. Since we are in an area where
there will usually be wake motion, I have an idea for boat motion
powered pump.

I don't think it would produce enough air. The Sweetank requires only 3
watts of 12v power...not much of a battery drain. If even that's too
much for your current 12 resources, a relative small solar panel would
replace the drain on your battery.

It's price of $150-200 seems expensive...but the purchase price is
offset by what you're spending for tank products now, 'cuz a properly
aerated tank requires nothing else. So depending on how much you're
spending for tank products, the Sweetank can pay for itself in just a
few years.


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Peggie
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"

--
Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
Cape Breton Island, Canada
kenheaton AT ess wye dee DOT eastlink DOT ca

Time you were flushed.

--


jlrogers±³©
Beaten by George W. Bush! Now that's funny!

"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...
Boooh Hooooo! Nobody loves me anymore. Nobody's posting any
questions about sewage and boat sewage systems. I feel old and
useless. I realize I AM old and useless but I just hate it when I
FEEL old and useless...

C'mon people. How about a sanitation question or two to cheer me
up?




Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1787
Author "Get Rid of Motorboats Owners - A Guide to Marine
Sanctification Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation
and Motors"
http://www.seaunworthy.com/store/customer/product.php?
productid=smelly=6&page=1


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Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1787
Author "Get Rid of Motorboats Owners - A Guide to Marine
Sanctification Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation
and Motors"
http://www.seaunworthy.com/store/customer/product.php?
productid=smelly=6&page=1