Last fall, I was soliciting opinions in this group about an early
spring transit of Lake Erie to deliver the 32 foot sailboat we bought
in Detroit. It seemed like a great idea at the time.

The original plan would have had me leaving Detroit last Wednesday,
arriving in Buffalo on Friday, and spending the weekend preparing for
the canal trip. Can you imagine?

Am I ever glad we decided to bring the boat on a truck.

--

Roger Long

On Sun, 24 Apr 2005 12:06:06 GMT, "Roger Long"
wrote:

Last fall, I was soliciting opinions in this group about an early
spring transit of Lake Erie to deliver the 32 foot sailboat we bought
in Detroit. It seemed like a great idea at the time.

The original plan would have had me leaving Detroit last Wednesday,
arriving in Buffalo on Friday, and spending the weekend preparing for
the canal trip. Can you imagine?

Am I ever glad we decided to bring the boat on a truck.

Yes, but the week prior was lovely, with generally favourable winds.
We seem to be getting a lot more easterly in our lower Great Lakes
winds than I recall. I know it was an issue on windward-leeward club
racing last couple of years.

R.

rhys wrote:

Yes, but the week prior was lovely, with generally favourable winds.

yes, nothing like sailing in 3degree water temps with the air temp at 25 ;-)

We seem to be getting a lot more easterly in our lower Great Lakes
winds than I recall.

agreed. check the stats. _highly_ anomalous for 2 years now. anyone
who denies global weather change does so because it's hard to notice
what's going on around you when you've got your head shoved up yer ...

prodigal1 wrote:
rhys wrote:

Yes, but the week prior was lovely, with generally favourable
winds.

yes, nothing like sailing in 3degree water temps with the air temp at
25 ;-)

We seem to be getting a lot more easterly in our lower Great Lakes
winds than I recall.

agreed. check the stats. _highly_ anomalous for 2 years now. anyone

who denies global weather change does so because it's hard to notice
what's going on around you when you've got your head shoved up yer
....

Anyone who uses one freak storm or only two years of anomolous data to
draw a sweeping conclusion not only has their head up their @$$ but
also knows nothing about science.

gooch wrote:

Anyone who uses one freak storm or only two years of anomolous data to
draw a sweeping conclusion not only has their head up their @$$ but
also knows nothing about science.

you sell SUV's?
time to re-insert your head into the observation tube Prof.Corey

prodigal1 wrote:
gooch wrote:

Anyone who uses one freak storm or only two years of anomolous data
to
draw a sweeping conclusion not only has their head up their @$$ but
also knows nothing about science.

you sell SUV's?
time to re-insert your head into the observation tube Prof.Corey

No I don't sell SUV's. As a matter of fact I drive a hybrid vehicle but
I am also a scientist and am simply pointing out that your assertion
that you can tell anything about global climate changes based on two
years of local data or anecdotal evidence is ridiculous.

I don't think he is doing that at all.

If you see a bird, you might say, "There's one of that group that
migrate through here every year." You have no direct evidence that
there is a group. It could be the last one left as far as first hand
observation goes. Seeing it confirms what you know from other sources
though.

--

Roger Long

gooch wrote:

No I don't sell SUV's. As a matter of fact I drive a hybrid vehicle but
I am also a scientist and am simply pointing out that your assertion
that you can tell anything about global climate changes based on two
years of local data or anecdotal evidence is ridiculous.

Dear Prof. Corey,
Your inability to place my comments in context renders your conclusions
invalid. If you choose to conclude that there is no global climatic
warming event in progress, please carry on without regard to the
alarmingly large body of current empirical evidence available for your
scientific analysis.
Here's wishing you warm, fresh breezes, from the east or any quadrant
for that matter.

On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:34:33 -0400, prodigal1 wrote:

rhys wrote:

Yes, but the week prior was lovely, with generally favourable winds.

yes, nothing like sailing in 3degree water temps with the air temp at 25 ;-)

The head is warm and the beer is very cold if you tow it through the
cubes...

We seem to be getting a lot more easterly in our lower Great Lakes
winds than I recall.

agreed. check the stats. _highly_ anomalous for 2 years now. anyone
who denies global weather change does so because it's hard to notice
what's going on around you when you've got your head shoved up yer ...

Where can I find historical stats for wind direction year-to-year?

Thx.
R.

prodigal1 wrote:
gooch wrote:

No I don't sell SUV's. As a matter of fact I drive a hybrid vehicle
but
I am also a scientist and am simply pointing out that your
assertion
that you can tell anything about global climate changes based on
two
years of local data or anecdotal evidence is ridiculous.

Dear Prof. Corey,
Your inability to place my comments in context renders your
conclusions
invalid. If you choose to conclude that there is no global climatic
warming event in progress, please carry on without regard to the
alarmingly large body of current empirical evidence available for
your
scientific analysis.
Here's wishing you warm, fresh breezes, from the east or any quadrant

for that matter.

You are doing it again, jumping to conclusions without knowing all the
facts. I never said that I didn't think there is some global climate
change occuring. Take the time to read what I said, I made no argument
one way or the other about global climate change. My only comment was
that you are basing your assertion on irrelevant information and you
are doing it again by assuming that I disagree with you.