On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 06:52:04 GMT, "Falky foo"
wrote:


um, yer an idiot, but the reason I'm plonking you is just cuz yer trying too
damn hard to get attention.... god I wish I could erase people from my real
life as easily as I can here.

PLONK
Well, I did have the misfortune of attracting your attention. And,
yes, it does sound as though you might have problems with people in
your "real" life. Perhaps you should talk to your doctor about
increasing your prosac dosage.

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:20:52 -0400, Paul Schilter
""paulschilter\"@comcast dot net" wrote:

Joe,
The fact they are Muslims is irrelevant. It doesn't matter what their
culture is. They're Pirates, that's all that relevant, and should be
dealt with on that basis, and no this isn't a flame, just a difference
of opinion.
Paul


Absolutely! The culture makes no difference whatsoever if you are so
committed to leftist doctrine or extreme political correctness that
yhou abandon all common sense. Not a flame. Just my opinion.

Joe

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:02:42 GMT, Brian Whatcott
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:36:23 -0400, Joe Bleau
wrote:

The rest of the
American main-stream media would follow in lock-step.

Flame away, liberal assholes!


ugh...a cowardly little anonymous poster, hiding behing his anonymous
lacy skirts.....

Brian Whatcott Altus, OK

Let' see, Brian Whatcott of Altus, Oklahoma, 99% of the reported
piracy is committed by Muslims. Every last one of the individuals who
hijacked our planes and killed our people on 9-11 were Muslims. They
(Muslims) are allowed to operate schools in our country where their
students are indoctrinated with hatred for our culture (well, what's
left of it). They (the Muslims) are involved in genocide in Africa.
They (the Muslims) are bombing Christian Christian churches in several
countries. They (the Muslims) are persecuting every other religion,
viz. Hinduism, Bahai-la, Buddhism. They are determined to destory
every single being on this earth who does not accept their religion of
blood and vengeance.

I point this out in response to a posting someone else made and I am
"a cowardly little anonymous poster, hiding behind . . . lacy skirts."
Just what kind of nut are you, Brian Whatcott of Altus, Oklahoma.

Joe

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:20:52 -0400, Paul Schilter
""paulschilter\"@comcast dot net" wrote:

Joe,
The fact they are Muslims is irrelevant. It doesn't matter what their
culture is. They're Pirates, that's all that relevant, and should be
dealt with on that basis, and no this isn't a flame, just a difference
of opinion.
Paul

In deference to cultural norms, however, if apprehended, the pirates
should have their hands cut off.

Yep, that seems PC to me.

R.

It appears that all but one of these many acts of piracy was committed
by Muslims.

Once upon a time the USA had the common sense, the will and the sense
of self preservation to punish pirates, viz the Barbary Pirates who
were severely curtailed by the U.S. Navy and the U.S. Marines in the
early 1800s. (Hence "The Shores of Tripoli" in the Marine anthem) It
is worth noting that the Barbary Pirates were also Muslims

Today we could not possibly do so because it would be soooo
politically incorrect to persecute any member of this "great"
religion. Why, the ACLU would have the government in court faster
than a personal injury lawyer at a plane crash site and the "New York
Times" would come out with banner attack headlines. The rest of the
American main-stream media would follow in lock-step.

Flame away, liberal assholes!

There are bad Muslims and good Muslims, just as there are bad
Christians and good Christians. Prejudice means to pre judge, that
is, you make your decision before you have the facts. Prejudice keeps
you from distinguishing between good and bad. You either assume that
all members of some group, race, tribe, or nationality have the exact
same traits. Logic and experience should alert you that such sameness
is very unlikely.

The answer is to look at the facts. For those Muslims who are
pirates, terrorist, murderers etc. let's punish them severely. For
those Muslims who are gentle, caring, productive people, let's
encourage them and befriend them so that they will increase in
numbers. For Christians who murder and steal and try to impose their
religion on everybody else in the world, let's punish them. For those
Christians who love their fellow humans and try to put the loving
teaching of Jesus into practice, let's encourage and befriend them.

All the ACLU is asking you to do is treat individuals as individuals.
If the facts show that a particular person is bad, lay on the
punishment. If the person is good, even though many of his/her group
are bad, do not punish the person for the sins of the majority of the
group. To do otherwise is to wallow in stupidity -- "don't confuse me
with the facts; let me just hate all members of a group without having
to think."

In life it is very important to distinguish between your friends and
your enemies. You cannot do that on a group basis. You have to do it
on a person-by-person basis.

Lee Huddleston

Joe,

I also note that all the pirates mentioned in the report were men.
Does that mean that we should hate and punish all men in the world?
Including you? No, we should distinguish between good men and bad
men, just as we do between good Muslims and bad Muslims.

Lee Huddleston

"Lee Huddleston" wrote
The answer is to look at the facts. For those Muslims who are
pirates, terrorist, murderers etc. let's punish them severely.....
...... For Christians who murder and steal and try to impose their
religion on everybody else in the world, let's punish them.

You mean like Bush and Delay?

On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:36:23 -0400, Joe Bleau
wrote:



It appears that all but one of these many acts of piracy was committed
by Muslims.

Once upon a time the USA had the common sense, the will and the sense
of self preservation to punish pirates, viz the Barbary Pirates who
were severely curtailed by the U.S. Navy and the U.S. Marines in the
early 1800s. (Hence "The Shores of Tripoli" in the Marine anthem) It
is worth noting that the Barbary Pirates were also Muslims

Today we could not possibly do so because it would be soooo
politically incorrect to persecute any member of this "great"
religion. Why, the ACLU would have the government in court faster
than a personal injury lawyer at a plane crash site and the "New York
Times" would come out with banner attack headlines. The rest of the
American main-stream media would follow in lock-step.

Flame away, liberal assholes!


If we looked at illegal acts rather than assumed religion, this
could work. How do you know I am not a muslim?

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 23:16:10 -0400, Joe Bleau
wrote:


Let' see, Brian Whatcott of Altus, Oklahoma, 99% of the reported
piracy is committed by Muslims. Every last one of the individuals who
hijacked our planes and killed our people on 9-11 were Muslims. They
(Muslims) are allowed to operate schools in our country where their
students are indoctrinated with hatred for our culture (well, what's
left of it). They (the Muslims) are involved in genocide in Africa.
They (the Muslims) are bombing Christian Christian churches in several
countries. They (the Muslims) are persecuting every other religion,
viz. Hinduism, Bahai-la, Buddhism. They are determined to destory
every single being on this earth who does not accept their religion of
blood and vengeance.


Joe

Joe,

You say, "They (Muslims) are allowed to operate schools in our
country where their students are indoctrinated with hatred for our
culture (well, what's left of it)."

These are citizens of our Country; they are part of our culture.
They are part of our culture, just like all the Swiss, Norwegian,
Irish, Morroccian, Spanish, Jamician, Hawaiian, Thai, Chinese, Indian,
and Nigerian (To name only a few.) people who have come here and are
now citizens.
The United States has such a rich heritage because we have a truly
world-wide heritage.


Joe,
Are their others, maybe Joe's church, that hate and speak hatred
about fellow citizens?
Do you do this, yourself?

Illegal acts of piracy on the high seas do not make everyone from
that country or religion bad.

Hey Joe--

Did you know that 100% of Hitler's inner circle, and Hitler,were
Christians?

Isn't enough enough ?! Lets fire up the bulldozers and shove all the
religous folk in a pit and put a lid on it. !