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bushman wrote:
Need to replace the head in my new boat. Practical Sailor has not done a
review that I can find. So I will let this group of practical sailors
review.
1. Wilcox Crittenden Santa Cruz Electric Head
2. Wilcox Crittenden Newport Electric Head
3. Raritan Sea Era Macerating Electric Toilet
4. Jabsco Electric Toilet
Thank you for your opinion. - Allen


I've never heard of the Wilcox Santa Cruz, nor is their any mention of
it on the website...and Google didn't turn it up either.

The Raritan SeaEra has proven to be most durable trouble-free toilet of
rest of the bunch on your list. However, depending on the size of your
boat, space in the head, your budget and other factors, there are other
macerating electric toilets worth considering. If you'll give me a bit
more information about the boat and who'll typically be aboard (how many
people, adults or children/landlubber guests, holding tank size (some
toilets use less flush water than others) and anything else that's
important to you, I'll point you toward them.

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http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...5326&y=21&x=18
Yes I did not give much info so here are some details.
1980 Endeavour 37' Sloop plan B.
Head is forward on the port side.
Toilet an older Raritan manual against the hull, pump towards the bow.
27 Gallon holding tank with Y-valves configured for all the flow options and
a discharge pump.
2 adults liveaboard and the rare guests. Schedule should allow pump out or
discharge every other week.
Space is a little tight and the layout should stay the same, electricity is
plentiful, I don't mind paying for a reliable piece of equipment. I have had
all the experience I want with manual pumps. My parents have been living
aboard with an electric for years trouble free.
Thank you so much for your help.
I will be buying your book (holding tank is under our v-berth).
Thanks again - Allen


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bushman wrote:
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...uctDisplay?ke-
yword=5388830&resultCt=1&storeId=10001&catalogId=1 0001&productId=1353-
26&y=21&x=18 Yes I did not give much info so here are some details.
1980 Endeavour 37' Sloop plan B. Head is forward on the port side.
Toilet an older Raritan manual against the hull, pump towards the
bow. 27 Gallon holding tank with Y-valves configured for all the flow
options and a discharge pump. 2 adults liveaboard and the rare
guests. Schedule should allow pump out or discharge every other week.
Space is a little tight and the layout should stay the same,
electricity is plentiful, I don't mind paying for a reliable piece of
equipment.


Okaayyy...in that case, I'd go with the SeaEra--the version designed to
flush using pressurized fresh water...for several reasons: 1. it uses
about 1/3 less flush water...2. it draws only 10a vs. 16 for the raw
water version...3. eliminates sea water intake odors...and 4. MUCH
quieter--in fact, quieter than many household toilets.

You can download all the specs and the complete manual for it from the
Raritan website at
http://www.raritaneng.com/products/t...c/sea_era.html
These folks have the best price I've found:
http://www.boatfix.com/elec/rarseaera.asp

Unless you're in one of the few parts of the country that are "no
discharge," you might want to take a look at the Lectra/San (CG
certified Type I MSD that treats waste and discharges it overboard
legally, and without harm to the environment) while you're on the
Raritan site:
http://www.raritaneng.com/products/w...lectrasan.html

Thank you so much for your help.


I will be buying your book...


Thank you!

... (holding tank is under our v-berth).


Best place for it.

Feel free to give me another shout if you still have questions.

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Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...0&cat=6&page=1

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bushman wrote:
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...5326&y=21&x=18
Yes I did not give much info so here are some details.
1980 Endeavour 37' Sloop plan B.
Head is forward on the port side.
Toilet an older Raritan manual against the hull, pump towards the bow.
27 Gallon holding tank with Y-valves configured for all the flow options and
a discharge pump.
2 adults liveaboard and the rare guests. Schedule should allow pump out or
discharge every other week.
Space is a little tight and the layout should stay the same, electricity is
plentiful, I don't mind paying for a reliable piece of equipment. I have had
all the experience I want with manual pumps. My parents have been living
aboard with an electric for years trouble free.
Thank you so much for your help.
I will be buying your book (holding tank is under our v-berth).
Thanks again - Allen

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I don't think a 27 gallon holding tank will
handle two weeks output for two people. And I don't think you want to
fill it to capacity all the time, especially if its under your bunk.

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"Jeff" wrote in message ...
bushman wrote:
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...5326&y=21&x=18
Yes I did not give much info so here are some details.
1980 Endeavour 37' Sloop plan B.
Head is forward on the port side.
Toilet an older Raritan manual against the hull, pump towards the bow.
27 Gallon holding tank with Y-valves configured for all the flow options and
a discharge pump.
2 adults liveaboard and the rare guests. Schedule should allow pump out or
discharge every other week.
Space is a little tight and the layout should stay the same, electricity is
plentiful, I don't mind paying for a reliable piece of equipment. I have had
all the experience I want with manual pumps. My parents have been living
aboard with an electric for years trouble free.
Thank you so much for your help.
I will be buying your book (holding tank is under our v-berth).
Thanks again - Allen

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I don't think a 27 gallon holding tank will handle two weeks output for two people. And I don't think you
want to fill it to capacity all the time, especially if its under your bunk.


My five-gallon cedar bucket has held my total output for the past fifteen
years. It's just a matter of how often it's emptied . . . 27-gallons sounds
excessive to me.

CN



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Capt. Neal® wrote:


My five-gallon cedar bucket has held my total output for the past fifteen
years. It's just a matter of how often it's emptied . . . 27-gallons sounds
excessive to me.

CN



Well...that explains it! Someone said you were a constipated S.O.B.
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Google on capt. neal, go to his web site and there you will see him in
what appears to be a postal uniform. And if you look closely, you will see
he looks exactly like the postie on "Cheers"! Can't remember his name, but a
good likeness! And when you think about it, the same personality!
Gordon
PS Sorry Cap, but as your site says "A man shouldn't mince words just to
spare the sensibilities of the ignorant"


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Gordon wrote:
Google on capt. neal, go to his web site and there you will see him in
what appears to be a postal uniform. And if you look closely, you will see
he looks exactly like the postie on "Cheers"! Can't remember his name, but a
good likeness! And when you think about it, the same personality!
Gordon
PS Sorry Cap, but as your site says "A man shouldn't mince words just to
spare the sensibilities of the ignorant"


I believe the character from 'Cheers' was named Cliff.
A while back the Capt said he retired from the Postal Service...but
reliable sources say he was terminated. Seems his fellow 'posties' were
terrified Capt Neal was about to go 'postal'.
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Jeff wrote:
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I don't think a 27 gallon holding tank will
handle two weeks output for two people.


It depends on whether they're continuously aboard or away during the
weekdays at work. If they're continuously aboard, a 27 gal tank will
fill up in 5-days on average. Here's how to calculate it, regardless of
which toilet, manual or electric: Average flush including flush water
is about 1/2 gal...the average adult uses the toilet 5x day...so avg
output/person/day including flush water is 2.5 gal...x the number of
people. Divide the tank capacity by that number. In this case, 2 people
= 5 gal/day...27 gal tank capacity divided by 5 = 5.6 days to fill up
the tank.

If they're away from the boat during working hours, they can prob'ly get
at least another 3 days out of the tank...but that's still a bit shy of
two weeks unless he uses the lee rail a LOT!

Which, unless he's in waters where he can't use one, makes installing
Lectra/San look better all the time.

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Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...0&cat=6&page=1

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