Lars Johansson wrote:
Someone one in this thread or another similar said that you might as well
empty you holdingtank at sea.

Only well away from shore...in the US, that means only in open ocean at
least 3 miles from the nearest point on the whole US coastline.

If you pump out in a marina it gets dumped in the sea anyway. Is that
really the case in the U.S.?
Does not it not get treated first to remove both bacteria and nutrients?

Yes...it goes to a sewage treatment plant. All sewage treatment plants
everywhere empty into some body of water--lake, river, ocean. However,
unfortunately in many cases heavy rains do result in overflow spills of
untreated sewage into the waters.

--
Peggie
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...0&cat=6&page=1

Peggie Hall wrote:

Only well away from shore...in the US, that means only in open ocean
at
least 3 miles from the nearest point on the whole US coastline.

Peggie: why not explain about the sections of US coastline w/nine mile
limit?

thanks, CKW

BTW:

http://www.cs-bb.com/forums/CSBB/index.cgi/read/11888

captkeywest wrote:
Peggie Hall wrote:


Only well away from shore...in the US, that means only in open ocean

at

least 3 miles from the nearest point on the whole US coastline.


Peggie: why not explain about the sections of US coastline w/nine mile
limit?

Only one place in the whole country: the Gulf coast side of FL south of
Tampa Bay...and the legal distances there actually vary from 6 to 9 to
12 miles. Which makes a Lectra/San even more attractive in those waters
'cuz it can be used inside any limit (except in the Keys and Destin
Harbor, which are the only two "no discharge" zones in FL on either
side--in fact, the only ones in the whole Gulf).

Have you started your pumpout boat service yet?
--
Peggie
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...0&cat=6&page=1

Peggie Hall wrote:


Have you started your pumpout boat service yet?

LOL, -- thought I was being nice !

Didn't mean to prompt you into tossing out your integrity with that
type of response,

How does it feel to lower yourself to Jax's caliber of fabricated
innuendo?

captkeywest wrote:
Peggie Hall wrote:


Have you started your pumpout boat service yet?


LOL, -- thought I was being nice !

Didn't mean to prompt you into tossing out your integrity with that
type of response,

How does it feel to lower yourself to Jax's caliber of fabricated
innuendo?

There was no innuendo intended... I really did think you planned to do
that. There's certainly nothing wrong with running a mobile pumpout
service...they can be very profitable in heavily populated ND waters.
But your reaction makes it very obvious I was mistaken...sorry!

--
Peggie
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...0&cat=6&page=1

"Peggie Hall" wrote in message ...


captkeywest wrote:
Peggie Hall wrote:


Have you started your pumpout boat service yet?


LOL, -- thought I was being nice !

Didn't mean to prompt you into tossing out your integrity with that
type of response,

How does it feel to lower yourself to Jax's caliber of fabricated
innuendo?

There was no innuendo intended... I really did think you planned to do
that. There's certainly nothing wrong with running a mobile pumpout
service...they can be very profitable in heavily populated ND waters.
But your reaction makes it very obvious I was mistaken...sorry!

--
Peggie


Oh, Peggie, don't take it so hard. I'm sure it was all his mistake.
You're never mistaken ;-)

In article , says...



"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...


captkeywest wrote:
Peggie Hall wrote:


Have you started your pumpout boat service yet?


LOL, -- thought I was being nice !

Didn't mean to prompt you into tossing out your integrity with that
type of response,

How does it feel to lower yourself to Jax's caliber of fabricated
innuendo?

There was no innuendo intended... I really did think you planned to do
that. There's certainly nothing wrong with running a mobile pumpout
service...they can be very profitable in heavily populated ND waters.
But your reaction makes it very obvious I was mistaken...sorry!

--
Peggie


Oh, Peggie, don't take it so hard. I'm sure it was all his mistake.
You're never mistaken ;-)

I did not post this.

Peggie Hall wrote:
I really did think you planned to do that.

I have NEVER had or REMOTELY EXPRESSED that intention. The truth is I
have NO DESIRE WHATSOEVER to own ANY business in the Keys. The Cost of
Living has crippled the local workforce. I shun the concept of being
an employer in the Keys, been there done that.

There's certainly nothing wrong with running a mobile pumpout
service...they can be very profitable in heavily populated ND waters.


Agree with nothing wrong with running mobile pumpout service.

I don't think the Keys fit the definition of heavily populated to that
extent: AFAIK (As Far As I Know) there are two pumpout boats in the
Keys, one in Key West and one in Marathon, both are run by
municipalities. Its been a more than a year probably closer to two or
three since my last conversation with one of the city marina managers
on pumpout issues. The complaint then, was yes; the Grant money helps
pay for the _equipment_. (The City owns its own marina but a private
individual would also be burdened with slip rent) . In the revenue vs
expense arena the expense of staffing the pumpout vessel, Even ONE
fulltime operator working 40 hrs exceeds the revenue. It was the marina
managers assertion that Grants should be available to help STAFF the
service!


On Municiple Sewage Dumping, Letter to the Editor, from todays Key West
Citizen:

---------------------------------------------------

New law would

protect clean water



In a time when so many of our environmental protections are being
weakened, your readers should know that some of their leaders in
Washington are standing up for clean water in Florida. The Bush
administration in Washington has a plan to allow publicly-owned sewage
treatment plants to dump untreated sewage in our waters anytime it
rains, which would be disastrous for tourism, fishing, and public
health.

Congressional Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen took a stand against this
backward-thinking idea, and The Clean Water Network would like to thank
her and ask others to do the same. Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen joined 134
other members of Congress, including 17 other Florida Congressional
Representatives, and Florida Senators Bill Nelson and Mel Martinez, in
signing a letter to the Environmental Protection Agency opposing this
policy. We applaud her leadership in protecting public health, our
economy and our waters. Now congressional leader Rep. Clay Shaw from
Ft. Lauderdale has introduced the "Save Our Waters from Sewage Act," to
try to stop EPA from moving forward with its sewage dumping policy.
Please take time to thank Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen and encourage her to
co-sponsor this important legislation.

Linda L. Young

Southeast Regional Director

Clean Water Network

Tallahassee

-------------------------------------------------------------------
source of above:

http://www.keysnews.com/letterstoeditor.bsp.htm


and last, but not least ! my concerns on the Keys NDZ side with some of
the other posters
who expressed concern about nutrient loading issues. As boaters we
should be the First Line of Defense in trying to Sustain clean waters.

When we fail to control nutrient damage:

One Coral Researchers view on the front page of this weeks Solaries
Hill:

http://www.keysnews.com/weeklys/solareshill.pdf


--
Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems
and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"

http://www.seaworthy.com/store/custo...0&cat=6&page=1

"captkeywest" wrote in message oups.com...
Peggie Hall wrote:
I really did think you planned to do that.

I have NEVER had or REMOTELY EXPRESSED that intention. The truth is I
have NO DESIRE WHATSOEVER to own ANY business in the Keys. The Cost of
Living has crippled the local workforce. I shun the concept of being
an employer in the Keys, been there done that.

There's certainly nothing wrong with running a mobile pumpout
service...they can be very profitable in heavily populated ND waters.


Agree with nothing wrong with running mobile pumpout service.

I don't think the Keys fit the definition of heavily populated to that
extent: AFAIK (As Far As I Know) there are two pumpout boats in the
Keys, one in Key West and one in Marathon, both are run by
municipalities. Its been a more than a year probably closer to two or
three since my last conversation with one of the city marina managers
on pumpout issues. The complaint then, was yes; the Grant money helps
pay for the _equipment_. (The City owns its own marina but a private
individual would also be burdened with slip rent) . In the revenue vs
expense arena the expense of staffing the pumpout vessel, Even ONE
fulltime operator working 40 hrs exceeds the revenue. It was the marina
managers assertion that Grants should be available to help STAFF the
service!
snipped some

Good to see somebody else pointing out how clueless Peggie Hall is.

She's been too long sitting on her ass satisfied with mother-henning all
the mindless drones here who worship her outdated understanding of
clean water in places other than her pathetic little lake.

A tip of the full-to-the-brim cedar bucket to ya!

CN