wrote in message ...
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:48:56 -0400, Capt. Neal®
wrote:


"DSK" wrote in message .. .
Most Trouble free refrigeration?

I am assembling a refrigeration system and am interested in what other
folks have & have not found troublesome.

Thanks in advance.

Doug King


Duh! Assembling it for use where? Don't you think that very important piece of
info should be included if you expect to get any reasonable answers?

Why is it so many people these days are too stupid to know how to ask a simple
question?

CN
He's too stupid? Where are you going to put the refrigeration system?
Let's see, this is rec.boats.cruising, what do you bet that he's
looking to put in in a cruising boat?

How about trying to be helpful instead of dumping on someone for
asking a question? Did somebody steal your favorite stuffed animal or
something?


Weebles Wobble
(but they don't fall down)

Helpful input appears over on alt.sailing.asa where DSK has also posted the same inquiry.

CN

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:15:31 -0400, Capt. Neal®
wrote:


wrote in message ...
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:48:56 -0400, Capt. Neal®
wrote:


"DSK" wrote in message .. .
Most Trouble free refrigeration?

I am assembling a refrigeration system and am interested in what other
folks have & have not found troublesome.

Thanks in advance.

Doug King


Duh! Assembling it for use where? Don't you think that very important piece of
info should be included if you expect to get any reasonable answers?

Why is it so many people these days are too stupid to know how to ask a simple
question?

CN
He's too stupid? Where are you going to put the refrigeration system?
Let's see, this is rec.boats.cruising, what do you bet that he's
looking to put in in a cruising boat?

How about trying to be helpful instead of dumping on someone for
asking a question? Did somebody steal your favorite stuffed animal or
something?


Weebles Wobble
(but they don't fall down)

Helpful input appears over on alt.sailing.asa where DSK has also posted the same inquiry.

CN
so are you saying that this is the newbie abuse group?


Weebles Wobble
(but they don't fall down)

wrote in message ...
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 20:15:31 -0400, Capt. Neal®
wrote:


wrote in message ...
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:48:56 -0400, Capt. Neal®
wrote:


"DSK" wrote in message .. .
Most Trouble free refrigeration?

I am assembling a refrigeration system and am interested in what other
folks have & have not found troublesome.

Thanks in advance.

Doug King


Duh! Assembling it for use where? Don't you think that very important piece of
info should be included if you expect to get any reasonable answers?

Why is it so many people these days are too stupid to know how to ask a simple
question?

CN
He's too stupid? Where are you going to put the refrigeration system?
Let's see, this is rec.boats.cruising, what do you bet that he's
looking to put in in a cruising boat?

How about trying to be helpful instead of dumping on someone for
asking a question? Did somebody steal your favorite stuffed animal or
something?


Weebles Wobble
(but they don't fall down)

Helpful input appears over on alt.sailing.asa where DSK has also posted the same inquiry.

CN
so are you saying that this is the newbie abuse group?

Negative, I posted the same criticism of DSK's inept question-asking abilities on the three groups I
read where he posted the same inept question.

CN

so are you saying that this is the newbie abuse group?


Crap'n Neal® wrote:
Negative

So you think this is a self-abuse group? Or some kind of therapy?

You obviously have nothing intelligent to say on the subject of
cruising, sailing, or (distantly related topic) marine refrigeration.

DSK

"DSK" whined like a limp-wristed wimp.


You obviously have nothing intelligent to say on the subject of
cruising, sailing, or (distantly related topic) marine refrigeration.

DSK

Too bad you're too blind to read the post in alt.sailing.asa cut and pasted
below . . .

"Joe" wrote in message oups.com...

DSK wrote:
Joe wrote:
you building a custom space with a cold plate, and putting the
compressor in your engine room?


No, they have this marvelous new technology called electricity!

I am putting in a 12V freezer, that way it can run when it needs to
regardless of what our power config (shore power, underway, anchored,

genset running, etc).


Even a 12 V electric compressor can be noisy. With just a few feet of
plumbing you can have a more proffessional set up and better access to
your compressor in the engine room.


A refrigerator is a heat pump.

It is rather stupid to put the compressor in a hot engine room because
it decreases the efficiency of the heat pump when the hot side of the pump
is in a hot environment.

It's far better to put the compressor in as cool and well-ventilated space as
can be found on the boat within the limits of the copper tubing to the evaporator,
of course.

I hope this helps.

CN
__________________________________________________ _____

Maybe with somebody as arrogant and blind as DSK one has to post the same answer
three or four times in three or four groups before he bother reading it???

CN

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

"DSK" whined like a limp-wristed wimp.


You obviously have nothing intelligent to say on the subject of cruising,
sailing, or (distantly related topic) marine refrigeration.

DSK

Too bad you're too blind to read the post in alt.sailing.asa cut and
pasted
below . . .

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

DSK wrote:
Joe wrote:
you building a custom space with a cold plate, and putting the
compressor in your engine room?


No, they have this marvelous new technology called electricity!

I am putting in a 12V freezer, that way it can run when it needs to
regardless of what our power config (shore power, underway, anchored,

genset running, etc).


Even a 12 V electric compressor can be noisy. With just a few feet of
plumbing you can have a more proffessional set up and better access to
your compressor in the engine room.


A refrigerator is a heat pump.
It is rather stupid to put the compressor in a hot engine room because
it decreases the efficiency of the heat pump when the hot side of the pump
is in a hot environment.

That just depends. Putting the compressor in the engine room is fine since
the purpose of the compressor is to heat up the refrigerant. It's the
condenser that is the issue. A water cooled condenser doesn;t much
care where it is. An air-cooled unit does need cool air to be efficient.

It's far better to put the compressor in as cool and well-ventilated space
as
can be found on the boat within the limits of the copper tubing to the
evaporator,
of course.

Your knowledge of refrigeration seems to be limited to the Adler-Barbour
ads.

I hope this helps.

CN
__________________________________________________ _____

Maybe with somebody as arrogant and blind as DSK one has to post the same
answer
three or four times in three or four groups before he bother reading it???

CN

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote in message ...
That just depends. Putting the compressor in the engine room is fine since
the purpose of the compressor is to heat up the refrigerant. It's the
condenser that is the issue. A water cooled condenser doesn;t much
care where it is. An air-cooled unit does need cool air to be efficient.


Oh Dear! What a total lack of understanding you display with your
ignorant statement above.

The heat in the ice box is removed by the expanding refigerant in the evaporator
and expelled by the compressed refrigerant in the compressor. The cooler the
environment of the compressor the better the system works.

The purpose of the compressor is NOT to heat up the refrigerant. The purpose of
the compressor is to compress the refrigerant and the heat is a by-product of
compression. The cooler the compressed gas the more heat it can carry away
from the ice box when it expands in the evaporator.

I hope this helps.

CN


It's far better to put the compressor in as cool and well-ventilated space
as
can be found on the boat within the limits of the copper tubing to the
evaporator,
of course.

Your knowledge of refrigeration seems to be limited to the Adler-Barbour
ads.

And your knowledge seems to come from Uranus!

CN

"DD" == Doug Dotson dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom writes:

DD "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
DD ...

"DSK" whined like a limp-wristed wimp.


You obviously have nothing intelligent to say on the subject of cruising,
sailing, or (distantly related topic) marine refrigeration.

DSK

Too bad you're too blind to read the post in alt.sailing.asa cut and
pasted
below . . .

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

DSK wrote:
Joe wrote:
you building a custom space with a cold plate, and putting the
compressor in your engine room?


No, they have this marvelous new technology called electricity!

I am putting in a 12V freezer, that way it can run when it needs to
regardless of what our power config (shore power, underway, anchored,

genset running, etc).


Even a 12 V electric compressor can be noisy. With just a few feet of
plumbing you can have a more proffessional set up and better access to
your compressor in the engine room.


A refrigerator is a heat pump.
It is rather stupid to put the compressor in a hot engine room because
it decreases the efficiency of the heat pump when the hot side of the pump
is in a hot environment.

DD That just depends. Putting the compressor in the engine room is fine since
DD the purpose of the compressor is to heat up the refrigerant. It's the
DD condenser that is the issue. A water cooled condenser doesn;t much
DD care where it is. An air-cooled unit does need cool air to be efficient.

Actually, the purpose is not to heat the refrigerant, but to compress
it. It heats up because it is compressed. You remove the heat, and it
condenses. It evaporates (expands), and absorbs heat, and so on. But I agree,
with a water cooled condenser, it does not matter much where the
compressor is, as long as you stay within its operational limits.

snip

--
C++: The power, elegance and simplicity of a hand grenade.

DSK wrote:

So you think this is a self-abuse group? Or some kind of therapy?
You obviously have nothing intelligent to say on the subject of
cruising, sailing, or (distantly related topic) marine refrigeration.

Please don't respond to this newsgroup's new village idiot. He has
nothing of any value whatsoever to add to any thread. He has an
honoured place in my idiot bin and I would rather not read his horsesh*t
attributed in other people's posts.

Please do not feed the troll.

"prodigal1" wrote in message news
DSK wrote:

So you think this is a self-abuse group? Or some kind of therapy?
You obviously have nothing intelligent to say on the subject of
cruising, sailing, or (distantly related topic) marine refrigeration.

Please don't respond to this newsgroup's new village idiot. He has
nothing of any value whatsoever to add to any thread. He has an
honoured place in my idiot bin and I would rather not read his horsesh*t
attributed in other people's posts.


I certainly straightened out idiot Doug Dotson.

CN