On 24 Mar 2005 21:04:04 -0600, Dave wrote:

On 24 Mar 2005 16:44:52 -0800, said:

Though I am an endurance athlete into adreneline-junky sports, I have
little desire to circumnavigate (my family would not let me), but for
my sixtieth birthday (7 years hence), I would love to sail across the
Atlantic and back.

A suggestion. Get the boat you need now for the conditions you'll be sailing
in now. Given what you've said, I think you will be far happier for now if
your boat moves decently in light air, and when the time comes when you want
to range far afield get a boat designed for that purpose. There just isn't
that much of a learning curve in moving from one to another.

I'll second that recommendation and add to it. Try an older boat in
the 26-28 foot range and invest the rest of your cash against the day
you decide you want something bigger for bigger adventures. There are
a lot of them going very cheaply because people seem to have decided
that anything under 30 is *small*.

Also, ask yourself if you are looking for something that *is* fast, or
something that *feels* fast. My 35 is faster than my 26 was by about a
minute a mile, but the 26 often felt faster, and I could singlehand it
closer to the edge than I can with my 35.

Ryk

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:59:36 -0500, Ryk
wrote:

/// ask yourself if you are looking for something that *is* fast, or
something that *feels* fast. My 35 is faster than my 26 was by about a
minute a mile, but the 26 often felt faster, and I could singlehand it
closer to the edge than I can with my 35.

Ryk

Wow! A vessel that feels faster than another that goes 60 MPH
faster!

Way to go...

:-)

Brian Whatcott Altus, OK

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 00:49:52 GMT, Brian Whatcott
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:59:36 -0500, Ryk
wrote:

/// ask yourself if you are looking for something that *is* fast, or
something that *feels* fast. My 35 is faster than my 26 was by about a
minute a mile, but the 26 often felt faster, and I could singlehand it
closer to the edge than I can with my 35.

Ryk

Wow! A vessel that feels faster than another that goes 60 MPH
faster!

60 mph is a mile a minute. 60 PHRF points is a minute a mile or the
difference between 6 knots (10 minutes a mile) and about 5.5 knots (11
minutes a mile). It's the same sort of thing as a sports car feeling
faster at 63 mph on a mountain road than a bus does at 70 mph on the
autobahn.

Ryk

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:24:46 -0500, Ryk
wrote:

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 00:49:52 GMT, Brian Whatcott
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:59:36 -0500, Ryk
wrote:

/// ask yourself if you are looking for something that *is* fast, or
something that *feels* fast. My 35 is faster than my 26 was by about a
minute a mile, but the 26 often felt faster, and I could singlehand it
closer to the edge than I can with my 35.

Ryk

Wow! A vessel that feels faster than another that goes 60 MPH
faster!

60 mph is a mile a minute. 60 PHRF points is a minute a mile or the
difference between 6 knots (10 minutes a mile) and about 5.5 knots (11
minutes a mile). It's the same sort of thing as a sports car feeling
faster at 63 mph on a mountain road than a bus does at 70 mph on the
autobahn.

Ryk


Thanks for illustrating this method:
so 61 minutes a mile vs 60 min a mile is a 2% difference at 1 kt
31 vs 30 min a mile is a 3% difference at 2 kt
21 vs 20 minutes a mile is a 5% diff 3 kt
11 vs 10 min/ml = 10% diff at 6kt
6 min vs 5 min is 20%diff at 10 kt
2 min vs 1 min = 100% diff at 30 kt

How interesting!

Brian Whatcott wrote:
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troll or pedant?
you be the judge

*plonk*