Skipper wrote:

Len,
Leave all firearms behind or get some education about their uses.

I've seen a lot of ways a discussion can be slammed down with
patronizing remarks but you get the prize...

Please, please enlighten me, Capt'n, sir. What in your opinion should
I do when I see an attacker or two coming towards my dear wife and me,
definitely planning to rob us from all our money and electronics on
board. Just muggers, with a knife.
Does your "education about the use of weapons" content that I shoot
and kill them by surprise at say 30 yards ???

I expect (but also doubt) that your courage and no doubt vigorous
mentality permits you to give me some sensible answer...

Some americans really are funny.... LOL

In article 1111817375.db6d80bd6e832d794c1d5f5690a67319@teran ews,
says...
Does your "education about the use of weapons" content that I shoot
and kill them by surprise at say 30 yards ???



Sounds like a good plan to me. Though I'd probably wait till the
distance was ten yards or less.

But then again that is in the real world where, in many parts, everyone
and their grandmother can get and run around with automatic weapons and
RPG's, not in Mister Rogers Neighborhood where the bad guys are not only
stupid enough to try a stunt like that with a knife but go weak kneed if
you wave a gun at them.

Hell, even a few box cutters can bring down tall buildings in the real
world.

--
Mike G.
Heirloom Woods

www.heirloom-woods.net

Mike G wrote:

In article 1111817375.db6d80bd6e832d794c1d5f5690a67319@teran ews,
says...

Does your "education about the use of weapons" content that I shoot
and kill them by surprise at say 30 yards ???




Sounds like a good plan to me. Though I'd probably wait till the
distance was ten yards or less.

But then again that is in the real world where, in many parts, everyone
and their grandmother can get and run around with automatic weapons and
RPG's, not in Mister Rogers Neighborhood where the bad guys are not only
stupid enough to try a stunt like that with a knife but go weak kneed if
you wave a gun at them.

Hell, even a few box cutters can bring down tall buildings in the real
world.

Very true, and as some have said, the absolutely essential ingredients
necessary for such a transformation (turning box cutters into guided
missiles):

The element of surprise and a good plan.

Stephen

Mike G wrote:

not_proven

Hell, even a few box cutters can bring down tall buildings in the real
world.

/not_proven

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:17:14 -0500,
prodigal1 wrote:
Mike G wrote:

not_proven

Hell, even a few box cutters can bring down tall buildings in the real
world.

/not_proven


??

Sept 11, 2001 ring a bell?

--
Jim Richardson http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
Rule 1: You can't cure stupid

Jim Richardson wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:17:14 -0500,
prodigal1 wrote:

Mike G wrote:

not_proven

Hell, even a few box cutters can bring down tall buildings in the real
world.

/not_proven



??

Sept 11, 2001 ring a bell?


Does "The Mafia wanted to implode the towers, and rigged them with
explosives 5 years ago when the 'frame strengthening' upgrade for
'earthquake protection' was done" ring a bell?

Jimmie Hoffa was never solved. The towers will never be solved.
Some think The gov was involved, like with JFK.

It is NOT proved that Arabs did it. The best lies are the biggest
ones, the best conspiracies are the largest and most involved. The
smartest deadbeat dads dissapear to Rhum City, Elseplace, Beachdom.

We do know that the Texan oil men have made a lot of money
engineering price rises independant of cost increases. Why not
build more refineries? It is likely all "free market" manipulation.
Billionaires have the best advice available, and no need for scruples.

"Intelligence" mopes will allways be made to carry the bag,
stupidly. Fire a few spies, toast a few scapegoats, problem goes away.

The public forgets, right?

Do you think it will make any difference who you vote for, next time?

The gov is supposed to protect you from big business, not protect
big bomb builders from common sense arms reductions.

Terry K

This is of topic for rec.boats.cruising.
Please take it to alt.conspiracy.gov etc.

Thanks

Don W.

Terry Spragg wrote:
Jim Richardson wrote:

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:17:14 -0500,
prodigal1 wrote:

Mike G wrote:

not_proven

Hell, even a few box cutters can bring down tall buildings in the
real world.


/not_proven




??

Sept 11, 2001 ring a bell?


Does "The Mafia wanted to implode the towers, and rigged them with
explosives 5 years ago when the 'frame strengthening' upgrade for
'earthquake protection' was done" ring a bell?

Jimmie Hoffa was never solved. The towers will never be solved. Some
think The gov was involved, like with JFK.

It is NOT proved that Arabs did it. The best lies are the biggest ones,
the best conspiracies are the largest and most involved. The smartest
deadbeat dads dissapear to Rhum City, Elseplace, Beachdom.

We do know that the Texan oil men have made a lot of money engineering
price rises independant of cost increases. Why not build more
refineries? It is likely all "free market" manipulation. Billionaires
have the best advice available, and no need for scruples.

"Intelligence" mopes will allways be made to carry the bag, stupidly.
Fire a few spies, toast a few scapegoats, problem goes away.

The public forgets, right?

Do you think it will make any difference who you vote for, next time?

The gov is supposed to protect you from big business, not protect big
bomb builders from common sense arms reductions.

Terry K

Make that off topic

Don W wrote:
This is of topic for rec.boats.cruising.
Please take it to alt.conspiracy.gov etc.

Thanks

Don W.

Terry Spragg wrote:

Jim Richardson wrote:

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:17:14 -0500,
prodigal1 wrote:

Mike G wrote:

not_proven

Hell, even a few box cutters can bring down tall buildings in the
real world.



/not_proven





??

Sept 11, 2001 ring a bell?



Does "The Mafia wanted to implode the towers, and rigged them with
explosives 5 years ago when the 'frame strengthening' upgrade for
'earthquake protection' was done" ring a bell?

Jimmie Hoffa was never solved. The towers will never be solved. Some
think The gov was involved, like with JFK.

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 07:09:09 +0100, Len
wrote:

Skipper wrote:

Len,
Leave all firearms behind or get some education about their uses.

I've seen a lot of ways a discussion can be slammed down with
patronizing remarks but you get the prize...

Please, please enlighten me, Capt'n, sir. What in your opinion should
I do when I see an attacker or two coming towards my dear wife and me,
definitely planning to rob us from all our money and electronics on
board. Just muggers, with a knife.
////

Yep: I see what the others are talking about:
if you aim for the attackers with lethal intentions, you WILL probably
miss, but might give them second thoughts.

Wave it around? pop one off in the air? and you might get a belly
laugh out of them.

Yes...I see the trap.

Brian W

Len,

Just because someone is only armed with a knife does not mean that
they are not dangerous. A person armed with a knife within 20 feet
of you is actually very dangerous even if you are armed with a gun,
because they can close the distance very quickly and kill you before
you can bring your gun into action. This scenario is well known in
police training, and is actually a practice scenario. Even if you
fatally wound them as they are closing the distance, they may still
kill you before dying themselves. In the real world, unlike the movies,
people do not always drop on the spot when shot. Also, it is not as
easy to accurately shoot someone who is rushing you as you might think.

Two attackers armed with knives against you armed with a firearm is even
worse. After you show your weapon, what are you going to do when they
spread out and keep advancing on you from different angles, or they both
rush you.

Also, remember that just because you are willing to surrender your money
and electronics does not necessarily mean that they will not kill you
and your wife as well. It just depends on who you are facing, and you
will not know that until after it is all over.

I'm not suggesting that you shoot from ambush, but if you pull a weapon
you'd better be ready to use it in a hurry, because things may happen
very quickly.

What is your experience with this sort of thing?

Don W.

Len wrote:

Skipper wrote:


Len,
Leave all firearms behind or get some education about their uses.


I've seen a lot of ways a discussion can be slammed down with
patronizing remarks but you get the prize...

Please, please enlighten me, Capt'n, sir. What in your opinion should
I do when I see an attacker or two coming towards my dear wife and me,
definitely planning to rob us from all our money and electronics on
board. Just muggers, with a knife.
Does your "education about the use of weapons" content that I shoot
and kill them by surprise at say 30 yards ???

I expect (but also doubt) that your courage and no doubt vigorous
mentality permits you to give me some sensible answer...

Some americans really are funny.... LOL