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"Steve" wrote in message ... Can I get a clear definition of "Pan-Pan", who and when may it be declared. I have hard the USCG declare "Pan-Pan", followed by a requirement that all none "Pan-Pan" traffic on channel 16 traffic be suspended. True. Pan-Pan (pronounced Pon-Pon) is a non-life threatening emergency. Can an individual boat declare "Pan-Pan", say when a crew member is lost overboard, etc?? Any vessel can call Pan-Pan. A crew member lost overboard would be a MAYDAY however. I fairly sure I understand when I could send a "May Day" but, to me, Pan Pan is something more recent and I must have missed out on earlier definition.. Thanks Steve s/v Good Intentions |
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Some examples may help from my own experience with my 33 ft sailboat..
Once I was in the shipping channel very close to Golden Gate bridge. Suddenly my ruddeer breaks off and i am without steering. My boat cannot be steered without the rudder. There is a lot of current and also some very heavy container and ther large ships. Even though the boat was not sinking, I felt my life was in imminent grave danger from the rocks and possible being hit by a big boat which have no room for maneuver. I called Mayday and the coast guard obviously agreed with my judgement. They came out and towed me to a small yacht harbor. At this point the emergency was over and they left after giving my vessel a safety inspection. If I would have been some other place where there is no shipping traffic and no rocks, this would have been a call to a towing service, which is neither Pan, nor an urgency call. Running out of gasoline is not normally a Mayday ( no people in imminent danger ) nor a Pan, nor an urgency call. It is simply a telephone call to atowing service to bring gasoline or tow to a pump. The coast guard will not respond in this case. In San Francisco Bay we get a lot of securitee calls from the coast guard, which advises people of floating logs in the water. Doug Dotson wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... Can I get a clear definition of "Pan-Pan", who and when may it be declared. I have hard the USCG declare "Pan-Pan", followed by a requirement that all none "Pan-Pan" traffic on channel 16 traffic be suspended. True. Pan-Pan (pronounced Pon-Pon) is a non-life threatening emergency. Can an individual boat declare "Pan-Pan", say when a crew member is lost overboard, etc?? Any vessel can call Pan-Pan. A crew member lost overboard would be a MAYDAY however. I fairly sure I understand when I could send a "May Day" but, to me, Pan Pan is something more recent and I must have missed out on earlier definition.. Thanks Steve s/v Good Intentions |
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"Rolf" wrote in message ups.com... Some examples may help from my own experience with my 33 ft sailboat.. Once I was in the shipping channel very close to Golden Gate bridge. Suddenly my ruddeer breaks off and i am without steering. My boat cannot be steered without the rudder. There is a lot of current and also some very heavy container and ther large ships. Even though the boat was not sinking, I felt my life was in imminent grave danger from the rocks and possible being hit by a big boat which have no room for maneuver. I called Mayday and the coast guard obviously agreed with my judgement. They came out and towed me to a small yacht harbor. At this point the emergency was over and they left after giving my vessel a safety inspection. Good call. If I would have been some other place where there is no shipping traffic and no rocks, this would have been a call to a towing service, which is neither Pan, nor an urgency call. Running out of gasoline is not normally a Mayday ( no people in imminent danger ) nor a Pan, nor an urgency call. It is simply a telephone call to atowing service to bring gasoline or tow to a pump. The coast guard will not respond in this case. I would dissagreed here. I think a Pan-Pan would be reasonable because being adrift with no control can quickly deteriate into a dangerous situation. One should first attempt to summon help via phone, radio, handwaving, etc but if that is unsuccessful then declaring a non-lifethreatinging emergency is reasonable. In San Francisco Bay we get a lot of securitee calls from the coast guard, which advises people of floating logs in the water. Same here on THE bay. Doug Dotson wrote: "Steve" wrote in message ... Can I get a clear definition of "Pan-Pan", who and when may it be declared. I have hard the USCG declare "Pan-Pan", followed by a requirement that all none "Pan-Pan" traffic on channel 16 traffic be suspended. True. Pan-Pan (pronounced Pon-Pon) is a non-life threatening emergency. Can an individual boat declare "Pan-Pan", say when a crew member is lost overboard, etc?? Any vessel can call Pan-Pan. A crew member lost overboard would be a MAYDAY however. I fairly sure I understand when I could send a "May Day" but, to me, Pan Pan is something more recent and I must have missed out on earlier definition.. Thanks Steve s/v Good Intentions |
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"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message Can I get a clear definition of "Pan-Pan", who and when may it be declared. I have hard the USCG declare "Pan-Pan", followed by a requirement that all none "Pan-Pan" traffic on channel 16 traffic be suspended. True. Pan-Pan (pronounced Pon-Pon) is a non-life threatening emergency. Can an individual boat declare "Pan-Pan", say when a crew member is lost overboard, etc?? Any vessel can call Pan-Pan. A crew member lost overboard would be a MAYDAY however. From a UK perspective, I've been told that MOB on a well-crewed race yacht involving say, a foredeck monkey, would be a Pan-Pan, but a MOB where the remaining crew are 75-yo grandfather on the helm, and an 12-yo child down below would be a Mayday. I assume we all agree that SAR prefer to downgrade rather than upgrade when it's too late. ISTR that (in the EU at least), 'Pan-Pan Medico'[0] has been depricated. rgds, Alan [0] i.e STFU, I want to speak to a doctor 'cos I'm not sure that it's 'grave and iminent' -- 99 Ducati 748BP, 95 Ducati 600SS, 81 Guzzi Monza, 74 MV Agusta 350 "Ride to Work, Work to Ride" SI# 7.067 DoD#1930 PGP Key 0xBDED56C5 |
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