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Larry W4CSC
 
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One reason why I'd be interested in a boat with positive flotation and
perhaps a Kevlar hull!


I like Geoffrey's Amel much better than the Endeavour. The Amel Sharki has
two watertight compartments forward...the chainlocker rear bulkhead is the
first and drains overboard, then the V-berth, head and forward locker are
forward of the main cabin bulkhead whos rubber-sealed hatch can be locked
closed with a bar and all the drains into the bilge have valves on them to
prevent flooding through the drains. The other watertight bulkhead is the
rear bulkhead in the aft cabin, which is about 2' forward of the stern
lockers, which also drain overboard. It's not great, but it's all VERY
strong and reassuring that you can seal up a good part of the boat that
will remain afloat longer than unprotected ones.



Got any idea the lat/long of those pipes sticking up? Are they on the
chart?


Not on the chart, and I have no idea what it could have been. The best
answer I can give as to location is that it's approx 15 nm SE of the tip
of Frying Pan Shoals (Cape Fear). You're the only person (so far) to be
interested in that question. It was by far the scariest moment of the
trip for me!



Thanks. I'll make a note on our charts. I'm headed down in the morning
and we may just take a cruise to sea with whoever's interested overnight
and come back Sunday before the rain gets here.

Someone should probably find them and put up a big float with a radar
reflector on them. I sure would try to do that if I sailed the area often,
especially if Cape Fear was my home port. Those orange ball markers aren't
that expensive.

Did anyone report the hazard to the authorities?

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Oh c'mon! Sure the tides are big but this is the least developed and
prettiest part of the whole coast? There are zillions of beautiful
anchorages, rivers & creeks to explore... heck we could spend months
cruising Georgia and SC!


I always hear something like this down on the docks from the folks passing
through, but can never figure out why they are so anxious to get to Florida
so they can line up bow anchor to swim platform with the idiot in front of
them in that awful crowded ditch down there....??

There were some people from CT in a beautifully-kept 50' trawler at Ashley
Marina a year ago who said something like this about exploring our area. I
asked him if he'd ever been up in the lake above the dam in Lake Moultrie.
He had no idea he could get there, so we hauled out the charts and I drew
him a line up through the lock, which is free. Now invited to go as tour
guide/pilot, I took them up for a day or overnight. We got back 3 days
later and they've been coming back to Charleston to STAY ever since. I
think the trawler was the biggest boat to dock at The Dock Restaurant, just
below the dam in Moncks Corner. The Portuguese Bridge kinda spoiled the
restaurant view until we had lunch...(c; The Missus made the locals happy
as she had opened all the curtains so the restaurant crowd could get a look
into her "living room", as I heard one lady put it 2 tables away. The
catfish stew was delicious, as usual. Transients hardly ever go up there.
I've never figured out why. By the time we got back, the trawler bottom
and seawater passages were all fresh-water-flushed from just above Goose
Creek, not a bad idea at all!....

Stay in the deep part of the lake if you go. There are vast underwater
forests full of stumps that are NO FUN in big areas of the lake. There's
60' of water at the dam and plenty of depth in the cross-lake channel.

I brought along an old map of the area before they flooded it in the 30's.
We charted several of the submerged towns, tracking several church steeples
on their sonar. The buildings are still all there, underwater, abandoned.

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One reason why I'd be interested in a boat with positive flotation and
perhaps a Kevlar hull!



Larry W4CSC wrote:
I like Geoffrey's Amel much better than the Endeavour. The Amel Sharki has
two watertight compartments forward...the chainlocker rear bulkhead is the
first and drains overboard, then the V-berth, head and forward locker are
forward of the main cabin bulkhead whos rubber-sealed hatch can be locked
closed with a bar and all the drains into the bilge have valves on them to
prevent flooding through the drains. The other watertight bulkhead is the
rear bulkhead in the aft cabin, which is about 2' forward of the stern
lockers, which also drain overboard. It's not great, but it's all VERY
strong and reassuring that you can seal up a good part of the boat that
will remain afloat longer than unprotected ones.


Bulkheading is a good idea and it gives up less stowage than positive
flotation. It's helped save a number of boats colliding with stuff in
the Southern Ocean. But it's not quite as foolproof... easier & cheaper
to install but it presupposes perfect maintenance on the drains, valves,
hatches, etc etc.


Got any idea the lat/long of those pipes sticking up? Are they on the
chart?


Did anyone report the hazard to the authorities?


To the port captain at Morehead, the USCG acknowledged also. We probably
should have made a bigger deal out of it and filed a written report.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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Larry W4CSC wrote:
I always hear something like this down on the docks from the folks passing
through, but can never figure out why they are so anxious to get to Florida
.... snip...
I brought along an old map of the area before they flooded it in the 30's.
We charted several of the submerged towns, tracking several church steeples
on their sonar. The buildings are still all there, underwater, abandoned.


Cool! Larry, I just read this to my wife who got a big smile of
anticipation... we're definitely going!

DSK

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:07:33 GMT, Larry W4CSC wrote:

A friend and I moved another friend's Endeavour 35 from where he left it on
the dock at Daytona Beach, up the ditch to Mayport, then at sea to
Charleston. After a great night of excellent winds, the sun rose and we
left the autopilot steering to get some breakfast. As we set chatting of
our great luck, a HUGE, empty, wooden cable reel that was easily larger
than the boat floated by several boatlengths away.

I still shudder at the thought of ramming that damned cable reel in the
total darkness of the preceding night. The Raymarine 2KW radar never made
a blip. The reel was totally radar transparent, even 10 boatlengths away
with the low pole-mounted antenna.

Got any idea the lat/long of those pipes sticking up? Are they on the
chart?


Along with lurid accounts of absurdly heavy weather, it's hazards
like this that are enough to put me off sailing (before I've even
started). Can anyone offer a few crumbs of comfort on the prospects of
surviving such encounters?
--

Martin Smith, the New Conservative Party.

http://www.newconservativeparty.org


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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:02:07 -0500, DSK wrote:

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One reason why I'd be interested in a boat with positive flotation and
perhaps a Kevlar hull!


Great story, Doug. Fine adventure, well described.

FYI, the newer Hunters (like my little 36) do have a Kevlar layer from
stem to keel. (Typical Hunter penny-pinching. Why pay for a full layer
when most people sail the boat forward g.)

Al
s/v Persephone
Newburyport, MA


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I brought along an old map of the area before they flooded it in the
30's. We charted several of the submerged towns, tracking several
church steeples on their sonar. The buildings are still all there,
underwater, abandoned. .


What's the visibility? Any diving possibilities?

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:02:07 -0500, DSK wrote:

You're the only person (so far) to be
interested in that question. It was by far the scariest moment of the
trip for me!


Not the only one. I share your concerns, even though my '70s C&C has a
pretty thick solid laminate by today's standards. I was wondering if
anyone hit the MOB button on the GPS...it's a good way to get the fix
immediately, but the crew or rather the navigator has to know to do
it.

I don't mind wind and waves, but I''m anal enough about low, heavy
crap in the water that I've called in twelve foot logs and floating
picnic tables off Toronto from a Zodiac to the Coast Guard at dawn
with a GPS fix...and heard it in the next radio Notice to Mariners G

What I was doing in a Zodiac at dawn off Toronto is another story.

R.

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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:59:50 -0500, DSK wrote:

A friend at our marina just bought a 1991 Hunter Legend 40; and wanted
to deliver it from St Lucie Fla up to North Carolina. A retired captain
agreed to take the boat and a few friends signed on as crew.


Great story, by the way, particularly for this time of year when half
of us are on the hard!

What kind of preventers and jacklines did you have rigged?

What kind of tethers and harnesses did the crew have, or did the
owner or skipper provide them?

What kind of foul weather gear did you have, and did it work well
enough in the conditions? (I know it wasn't freezing, but I bet it got
pretty damn chilly in spots with that 40-50 knot wind).

Thanks,
R.
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