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DSK wrote in
: One reason why I'd be interested in a boat with positive flotation and perhaps a Kevlar hull! I like Geoffrey's Amel much better than the Endeavour. The Amel Sharki has two watertight compartments forward...the chainlocker rear bulkhead is the first and drains overboard, then the V-berth, head and forward locker are forward of the main cabin bulkhead whos rubber-sealed hatch can be locked closed with a bar and all the drains into the bilge have valves on them to prevent flooding through the drains. The other watertight bulkhead is the rear bulkhead in the aft cabin, which is about 2' forward of the stern lockers, which also drain overboard. It's not great, but it's all VERY strong and reassuring that you can seal up a good part of the boat that will remain afloat longer than unprotected ones. Got any idea the lat/long of those pipes sticking up? Are they on the chart? Not on the chart, and I have no idea what it could have been. The best answer I can give as to location is that it's approx 15 nm SE of the tip of Frying Pan Shoals (Cape Fear). You're the only person (so far) to be interested in that question. It was by far the scariest moment of the trip for me! Thanks. I'll make a note on our charts. I'm headed down in the morning and we may just take a cruise to sea with whoever's interested overnight and come back Sunday before the rain gets here. Someone should probably find them and put up a big float with a radar reflector on them. I sure would try to do that if I sailed the area often, especially if Cape Fear was my home port. Those orange ball markers aren't that expensive. Did anyone report the hazard to the authorities? |
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DSK wrote in
: Oh c'mon! Sure the tides are big but this is the least developed and prettiest part of the whole coast? There are zillions of beautiful anchorages, rivers & creeks to explore... heck we could spend months cruising Georgia and SC! I always hear something like this down on the docks from the folks passing through, but can never figure out why they are so anxious to get to Florida so they can line up bow anchor to swim platform with the idiot in front of them in that awful crowded ditch down there....?? There were some people from CT in a beautifully-kept 50' trawler at Ashley Marina a year ago who said something like this about exploring our area. I asked him if he'd ever been up in the lake above the dam in Lake Moultrie. He had no idea he could get there, so we hauled out the charts and I drew him a line up through the lock, which is free. Now invited to go as tour guide/pilot, I took them up for a day or overnight. We got back 3 days later and they've been coming back to Charleston to STAY ever since. I think the trawler was the biggest boat to dock at The Dock Restaurant, just below the dam in Moncks Corner. The Portuguese Bridge kinda spoiled the restaurant view until we had lunch...(c; The Missus made the locals happy as she had opened all the curtains so the restaurant crowd could get a look into her "living room", as I heard one lady put it 2 tables away. The catfish stew was delicious, as usual. Transients hardly ever go up there. I've never figured out why. By the time we got back, the trawler bottom and seawater passages were all fresh-water-flushed from just above Goose Creek, not a bad idea at all!.... Stay in the deep part of the lake if you go. There are vast underwater forests full of stumps that are NO FUN in big areas of the lake. There's 60' of water at the dam and plenty of depth in the cross-lake channel. I brought along an old map of the area before they flooded it in the 30's. We charted several of the submerged towns, tracking several church steeples on their sonar. The buildings are still all there, underwater, abandoned. |
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One reason why I'd be interested in a boat with positive flotation and
perhaps a Kevlar hull! Larry W4CSC wrote: I like Geoffrey's Amel much better than the Endeavour. The Amel Sharki has two watertight compartments forward...the chainlocker rear bulkhead is the first and drains overboard, then the V-berth, head and forward locker are forward of the main cabin bulkhead whos rubber-sealed hatch can be locked closed with a bar and all the drains into the bilge have valves on them to prevent flooding through the drains. The other watertight bulkhead is the rear bulkhead in the aft cabin, which is about 2' forward of the stern lockers, which also drain overboard. It's not great, but it's all VERY strong and reassuring that you can seal up a good part of the boat that will remain afloat longer than unprotected ones. Bulkheading is a good idea and it gives up less stowage than positive flotation. It's helped save a number of boats colliding with stuff in the Southern Ocean. But it's not quite as foolproof... easier & cheaper to install but it presupposes perfect maintenance on the drains, valves, hatches, etc etc. Got any idea the lat/long of those pipes sticking up? Are they on the chart? Did anyone report the hazard to the authorities? To the port captain at Morehead, the USCG acknowledged also. We probably should have made a bigger deal out of it and filed a written report. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Larry W4CSC wrote:
I always hear something like this down on the docks from the folks passing through, but can never figure out why they are so anxious to get to Florida .... snip... I brought along an old map of the area before they flooded it in the 30's. We charted several of the submerged towns, tracking several church steeples on their sonar. The buildings are still all there, underwater, abandoned. Cool! Larry, I just read this to my wife who got a big smile of anticipation... we're definitely going! DSK |
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:07:33 GMT, Larry W4CSC wrote:
A friend and I moved another friend's Endeavour 35 from where he left it on the dock at Daytona Beach, up the ditch to Mayport, then at sea to Charleston. After a great night of excellent winds, the sun rose and we left the autopilot steering to get some breakfast. As we set chatting of our great luck, a HUGE, empty, wooden cable reel that was easily larger than the boat floated by several boatlengths away. I still shudder at the thought of ramming that damned cable reel in the total darkness of the preceding night. The Raymarine 2KW radar never made a blip. The reel was totally radar transparent, even 10 boatlengths away with the low pole-mounted antenna. Got any idea the lat/long of those pipes sticking up? Are they on the chart? Along with lurid accounts of absurdly heavy weather, it's hazards like this that are enough to put me off sailing (before I've even started). Can anyone offer a few crumbs of comfort on the prospects of surviving such encounters? -- Martin Smith, the New Conservative Party. http://www.newconservativeparty.org |
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:02:07 -0500, DSK wrote:
----------- snip ------------- One reason why I'd be interested in a boat with positive flotation and perhaps a Kevlar hull! Great story, Doug. Fine adventure, well described. FYI, the newer Hunters (like my little 36) do have a Kevlar layer from stem to keel. (Typical Hunter penny-pinching. Why pay for a full layer when most people sail the boat forward g.) Al s/v Persephone Newburyport, MA |
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I brought along an old map of the area before they flooded it in the
30's. We charted several of the submerged towns, tracking several church steeples on their sonar. The buildings are still all there, underwater, abandoned. . What's the visibility? Any diving possibilities? |
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:02:07 -0500, DSK wrote:
You're the only person (so far) to be interested in that question. It was by far the scariest moment of the trip for me! Not the only one. I share your concerns, even though my '70s C&C has a pretty thick solid laminate by today's standards. I was wondering if anyone hit the MOB button on the GPS...it's a good way to get the fix immediately, but the crew or rather the navigator has to know to do it. I don't mind wind and waves, but I''m anal enough about low, heavy crap in the water that I've called in twelve foot logs and floating picnic tables off Toronto from a Zodiac to the Coast Guard at dawn with a GPS fix...and heard it in the next radio Notice to Mariners G What I was doing in a Zodiac at dawn off Toronto is another story. R. |
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:59:50 -0500, DSK wrote:
A friend at our marina just bought a 1991 Hunter Legend 40; and wanted to deliver it from St Lucie Fla up to North Carolina. A retired captain agreed to take the boat and a few friends signed on as crew. Great story, by the way, particularly for this time of year when half of us are on the hard! What kind of preventers and jacklines did you have rigged? What kind of tethers and harnesses did the crew have, or did the owner or skipper provide them? What kind of foul weather gear did you have, and did it work well enough in the conditions? (I know it wasn't freezing, but I bet it got pretty damn chilly in spots with that 40-50 knot wind). Thanks, R. |
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