On 2005-02-13 19:57:23 +1100, "Martin Woolwich" said:

I am hoping to move permanently to Canada in 2007.

I have a 55ft Motor boat which I would like to bring with me. The
boat is approx 32 tons net weight and Part 1 UK Registered

I have RYA dayskipper Theory, Practical and RYA VHF DSC operators licence.

Where do I even begin to find out what I am required to do in order to
make this vessel OK in Canada and me to pilot it?

Forget any issue of transportation and power supplies etc, I have those
bits under control

Also I have identified a newsgroup called can.rec.boating which may be
helpful to me but this is the first time I have ever tried to work with
newsgroups and my news server does not find this. Any ideas (in
layman's terms) how I might be able to connect to this group?

Hope someone can help

Slightly off topic but what the hell....

Martin, as a ex Canadian can I say that the best thing I did (and I am
a slow learner) is that after 31 years of living in a climate that was
9 months winter and 3 months bad sleding (only joking rhys) I moved to
Australia. I like my water in the liquid state and I can sail 365 days
a year providing the weather is reasonable. A bad winter's day in
Melbourne is 5-10 degrees C. Better in Sydney but more expensive berths
;-)

--
Regards,
John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789
S/V Chagall

My real desire is actually to go to Perth.

But wife is Canadian and kids have Canadian nationality and won't hear of us
going anywhere else. At least we both agree that we have to get out of the
UK


"John Proctor" wrote in message
news:2005021822084175249%lost@nowhereorg...
On 2005-02-13 19:57:23 +1100, "Martin Woolwich"
said:

I am hoping to move permanently to Canada in 2007.

I have a 55ft Motor boat which I would like to bring with me. The boat
is approx 32 tons net weight and Part 1 UK Registered

I have RYA dayskipper Theory, Practical and RYA VHF DSC operators
licence.

Where do I even begin to find out what I am required to do in order to
make this vessel OK in Canada and me to pilot it?

Forget any issue of transportation and power supplies etc, I have those
bits under control

Also I have identified a newsgroup called can.rec.boating which may be
helpful to me but this is the first time I have ever tried to work with
newsgroups and my news server does not find this. Any ideas (in layman's
terms) how I might be able to connect to this group?

Hope someone can help

Slightly off topic but what the hell....

Martin, as a ex Canadian can I say that the best thing I did (and I am a
slow learner) is that after 31 years of living in a climate that was 9
months winter and 3 months bad sleding (only joking rhys) I moved to
Australia. I like my water in the liquid state and I can sail 365 days a
year providing the weather is reasonable. A bad winter's day in Melbourne
is 5-10 degrees C. Better in Sydney but more expensive berths ;-)

--
Regards,
John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789
S/V Chagall

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 08:18:06 GMT, "Martin Woolwich"
wrote:

But wife is Canadian and kids have Canadian nationality and won't hear of us
going anywhere else. At least we both agree that we have to get out of the
UK

B.C. is your best bet then, but facilities are either scarce or
overcrowded in many places. If you want less rain and no complicated
tidal patterns, I recommend the lower Great Lakes. You can have
challenging sailing in summer if you go out on stormy days, secure in
the knowledge that it never lasts long.

If you have heat in the cockpit and a steel hull, you can get
"bubbler" slips here in Toronto that stay ice-free and conceivably get
a nearly 12 month season. I know a steel ketch owner who logs New
Year's Day without fail, and I've had excellent sails on the lake in
March and November, when the wind will push even heavy displacement
full-keelers easily.

Ice is primarily inshore and the increasingly frequent warm spells
means only close inshore or in boat basins does it form any sort of
thickness...it's mostly "brash" ice.

My boat is put on a cradle at the end of October and dropped around
May 1st, but I take my Zodiac out most months excepting January and
February.

R.

"rhys" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 08:18:06 GMT, "Martin Woolwich"
wrote:

But wife is Canadian and kids have Canadian nationality and won't hear of
us
going anywhere else. At least we both agree that we have to get out of
the
UK

B.C. is your best bet then, but facilities are either scarce or
overcrowded in many places. If you want less rain and no complicated
tidal patterns, I recommend the lower Great Lakes. You can have
challenging sailing in summer if you go out on stormy days, secure in
the knowledge that it never lasts long.

snip

On the other hand, if you like a low key, down home life and are partial to
the Atlantic Ocean, the East Coast might be a good choice. Jobs are harder
to come by, but if you have skills that are in demand.....Nova Scotia in
particular is crying for more immigration. Our winters and spring can drag
out...but we're only 7 days sail north of Bermuda.

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 00:41:47 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

On the other hand, if you like a low key, down home life and are partial to
the Atlantic Ocean, the East Coast might be a good choice. Jobs are harder
to come by, but if you have skills that are in demand.....Nova Scotia in
particular is crying for more immigration. Our winters and spring can drag
out...but we're only 7 days sail north of Bermuda.

This is true, but the economy is very spotty down East. Certain
resource-based things are doable, and there's a Buddhist community in
Halifax of all places that's solvent after years of struggle, but I
believe there is still a net out-migration from the Maritimes to other
parts of Canada or to the States.

Ironically, I would imagine two of the most in-demand jobs would be
call-centre management in Moncton/Fredericton, and house construction
in Nova Scotia, as the Americans seem to be buying up large chunks of
the oceanfront and building big houses on the land.

R.

"rhys" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 00:41:47 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

On the other hand, if you like a low key, down home life and are partial
to
the Atlantic Ocean, the East Coast might be a good choice. Jobs are
harder
to come by, but if you have skills that are in demand.....Nova Scotia in
particular is crying for more immigration. Our winters and spring can
drag
out...but we're only 7 days sail north of Bermuda.

This is true, but the economy is very spotty down East. Certain
resource-based things are doable, and there's a Buddhist community in
Halifax of all places that's solvent after years of struggle, but I
believe there is still a net out-migration from the Maritimes to other
parts of Canada or to the States.

Ironically, I would imagine two of the most in-demand jobs would be
call-centre management in Moncton/Fredericton, and house construction
in Nova Scotia, as the Americans seem to be buying up large chunks of
the oceanfront and building big houses on the land.

R.


Pretty low key in Nanaimo. Yesterday it was 13C / 55F and very sunny.
Can't say this is typical for February but its always nice here in February
than on the East coast. Not that many jobs around here though unless you
are involved with new house construction.

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:08:41 GMT, John Proctor
wrote:

9 months winter and 3 months bad sleding (only joking rhys)

Hey, I must be getting a rep as a touchy nationalist G. Hey, outside
of B.C. it IS a short season practically everywhere (ever see a Star
go over in Lake Ontario in May? Brrrr....). There's no denying
reality, and Australia and New Zealand, too, are ideal sailing meccas.
Also, on the east side of either you've rarely got a lee shore and the
beer and ladies are constant companions. What's not to like?

R.

On 2005-02-20 08:13:38 +1100, rhys said:

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:08:41 GMT, John Proctor
wrote:

9 months winter and 3 months bad sleding (only joking rhys)

Hey, I must be getting a rep as a touchy nationalist G. Hey, outside
of B.C. it IS a short season practically everywhere (ever see a Star
go over in Lake Ontario in May? Brrrr....). There's no denying
reality, and Australia and New Zealand, too, are ideal sailing meccas.
Also, on the east side of either you've rarely got a lee shore and the
beer and ladies are constant companions. What's not to like?

R.

Rhys,

I grew up in Hamilton and did my EE in Kingston at Queen's U. Lived in
Ottawa after graduating and worked for BNR. I think it was the winter
of 1971 that got us thinking about warmer climates and losing the snow.
So with Wife and two kids in tow we went to Australia in 1977. Hell my
82 YO mother flys down here almost every year and loves the climate.

The beers good but the wines well they are simply supurb!;-)

--
Regards,
John Proctor VK3JP, VKV6789
S/V Chagall

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 19:39:09 GMT, John Proctor
wrote:

Hell my
82 YO mother flys down here almost every year and loves the climate.

I can believe it. If you've got in-demand skills, Australia's a great
place to go. It's certainly in the top five sailing countries of the
world.

R.

In canada you may register your boat with the Federal Government, or
with the province you live in.

Registration with the Federal government is the equivalent to a Coast
Guard Registration in the U.S. It is proof of ownership. For your size
boat you will have to have its tonnage certified. Aside from that the
charges are reasonable. This hasn't nothing to do with the taxes.

A provincial registration is for purposes of using this boat in
Canadian waters as a Canadian, and is mostly about paying GST and PST.
I don't know what the handling is for someone coming to Canada.

If you plan to sail in Canada, you should know where you are going in
this country. Aside from the Atlantice Provinces and British Columbia,
that boat is way too big for the country. I live in Ontario, and even
on Lake Ontario, where draft isn't an issue, there are few boats over
35 feets. I've sailed across lake Ontario on a 20' boat.

Ed