"Jack Dale" wrote in message
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On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:21:56 -1000, renewontime dot com
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varnish wrote:
I'm a UK yachtsman planning to sail the US and Canadian east coasts.

What is the proper courtesy flag to fly in your two countries? Are they
just smaller version of your national flags, or do you have a special
maritime flag, like our red ensign?

thanks.

Yes, courtesy flag for both countries is the National flag flown from
the starboard spreader.

The courtesy flag should be .5 inches for each foot of LOA.

Is that a US rule (or guideline)?

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:

Is that a US rule (or guideline)?

If it is a US - Rule, my goodness, what does that mean to the rest of
the world? (sorry, couldn't help it)

Anyway, in Europe it is a custom to fly a courtesy flag from the
starboard spreader also. There is no other rule but the esthetic
virtues of the skipper to establish the correct measurement in
relation to the size of the vessel. I believe courtesy flags come in 2
sizes tops.
Len.

In 1108289472.38ad755c113bc71a9d36646b17723861@teran ews Len writes:

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:

Is that a US rule (or guideline)?

If it is a US - Rule, my goodness, what does that mean to the rest of
the world? (sorry, couldn't help it)

Anyway, in Europe it is a custom to fly a courtesy flag from the
starboard spreader also. There is no other rule but the esthetic
virtues of the skipper to establish the correct measurement in
relation to the size of the vessel. I believe courtesy flags come in 2
sizes tops.

Most shops carry only two sizes, but there is no law against ordering
from the maker custom size to your fancy.

- Lauri Tarkkonen

(Lauri Tarkkonen) wrote:

In 1108289472.38ad755c113bc71a9d36646b17723861@teran ews Len writes:

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:

Is that a US rule (or guideline)?

If it is a US - Rule, my goodness, what does that mean to the rest of
the world? (sorry, couldn't help it)

Anyway, in Europe it is a custom to fly a courtesy flag from the
starboard spreader also. There is no other rule but the esthetic
virtues of the skipper to establish the correct measurement in
relation to the size of the vessel. I believe courtesy flags come in 2
sizes tops.

Most shops carry only two sizes, but there is no law against ordering
from the maker custom size to your fancy.

- Lauri Tarkkonen
US flags (and I'm sure Canadian flags) come in a variety of sizes.
Since in both cases the courtesy flag is just the flag of the country
and not a special flag (like it is in the Bahamas), you can just get
whatever size you think appropriate.

I have a printout of the flags of the world that I take with me on the
boat.

grandma Rosalie

"Rosalie B." wrote in message
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US flags (and I'm sure Canadian flags) come in a variety of sizes.
Since in both cases the courtesy flag is just the flag of the country
and not a special flag (like it is in the Bahamas), you can just get
whatever size you think appropriate.

I have a printout of the flags of the world that I take with me on the
boat.



The 'national flag' is the only proper courtesy flag in Canada. As a side
note...tomorrow is the 40th anniversary of our maple leaf flag. before that
it was the 'red ensign'.

"Don White" wrote:


"Rosalie B." wrote in message
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US flags (and I'm sure Canadian flags) come in a variety of sizes.
Since in both cases the courtesy flag is just the flag of the country
and not a special flag (like it is in the Bahamas), you can just get
whatever size you think appropriate.

I have a printout of the flags of the world that I take with me on the
boat.



The 'national flag' is the only proper courtesy flag in Canada.

Wasn't that what I said?

In the Bahamas however, the national flag is NOT the courtesy flag.

As a side
note...tomorrow is the 40th anniversary of our maple leaf flag. before that
it was the 'red ensign'.


grandma Rosalie

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 20:18:57 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:


"Jack Dale" wrote in message
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On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:21:56 -1000, renewontime dot com
wrote:

varnish wrote:
I'm a UK yachtsman planning to sail the US and Canadian east coasts.

What is the proper courtesy flag to fly in your two countries? Are they
just smaller version of your national flags, or do you have a special
maritime flag, like our red ensign?

thanks.

Yes, courtesy flag for both countries is the National flag flown from
the starboard spreader.

The courtesy flag should be .5 inches for each foot of LOA.

Is that a US rule (or guideline)?

I think it is a guideline. John Rousmaniere has this in The Annapolis
Book of Seamanship.

Jack

__________________________________________________
Jack Dale
Swiftsure Sailing Academy
Director/ISPA and CYA Instructor
http://www.swiftsuresailing.com
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Jack Dale wrote:

I think it is a guideline. John Rousmaniere has this in The
Annapolis Book of Seamanship.

I think John should row through a crowded anchorage and get in touch with
reality. For example, it's easy enough to encounter 400+ foreign-flagged
vessels of various sizes in Exuma during the winter and spring seasons.
With few exceptions these boats are showing a typical West Marine (or
equivalent) Bahamas cheapo courtesy flag (and I include those boats beyond
the reach of most readers of this group). According to John (as represented
by Jack's attribution) each of these boats should have bothered to have
custom-sized Bahamian flags manufactured that adhere to his "rule."

John is a Connecticut person who was born into the life and has probably
never met a payroll. I'm not sure what he has actually done besides
writing for yachting magazines and lounging at yacht clubs and writing a
book or two. The majority of us will probably survive by ignoring his
"rules."

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.home.comcast.net/

South of Maryland, it is sometimes expected that you should replace the
Stars 'n Stripes with the Stars 'n Bars.


Armond Perretta wrote:
Jack Dale wrote:

I think it is a guideline. John Rousmaniere has this in The
Annapolis Book of Seamanship.

I think John should row through a crowded anchorage and get in touch
with
reality. For example, it's easy enough to encounter 400+
foreign-flagged
vessels of various sizes in Exuma during the winter and spring
seasons.
With few exceptions these boats are showing a typical West Marine (or
equivalent) Bahamas cheapo courtesy flag (and I include those boats
beyond
the reach of most readers of this group). According to John (as
represented
by Jack's attribution) each of these boats should have bothered to
have
custom-sized Bahamian flags manufactured that adhere to his "rule."

John is a Connecticut person who was born into the life and has
probably
never met a payroll. I'm not sure what he has actually done besides
writing for yachting magazines and lounging at yacht clubs and
writing a
book or two. The majority of us will probably survive by ignoring
his
"rules."

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.home.comcast.net/

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ps.com...
South of Maryland, it is sometimes expected that you should replace
the
Stars 'n Stripes with the Stars 'n Bars.

Only on your trucks' grill.

SV