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varnish February 12th 05 09:57 AM

Courtesy flags
 
I'm a UK yachtsman planning to sail the US and Canadian east coasts.

What is the proper courtesy flag to fly in your two countries? Are they
just smaller version of your national flags, or do you have a special
maritime flag, like our red ensign?

thanks.

renewontime dot com February 12th 05 10:21 AM

varnish wrote:
I'm a UK yachtsman planning to sail the US and Canadian east coasts.

What is the proper courtesy flag to fly in your two countries? Are they
just smaller version of your national flags, or do you have a special
maritime flag, like our red ensign?

thanks.


Yes, courtesy flag for both countries is the National flag flown from
the starboard spreader.

Paul

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Jack Dale February 12th 05 05:59 PM

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:21:56 -1000, renewontime dot com
wrote:

varnish wrote:
I'm a UK yachtsman planning to sail the US and Canadian east coasts.

What is the proper courtesy flag to fly in your two countries? Are they
just smaller version of your national flags, or do you have a special
maritime flag, like our red ensign?

thanks.


Yes, courtesy flag for both countries is the National flag flown from
the starboard spreader.

The courtesy flag should be .5 inches for each foot of LOA.



varnish February 12th 05 06:08 PM

Jack Dale wrote:

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:21:56 -1000, renewontime dot com
wrote:

varnish wrote:
I'm a UK yachtsman planning to sail the US and Canadian east coasts.

What is the proper courtesy flag to fly in your two countries? Are they
just smaller version of your national flags, or do you have a special
maritime flag, like our red ensign?

thanks.


Yes, courtesy flag for both countries is the National flag flown from
the starboard spreader.

The courtesy flag should be .5 inches for each foot of LOA.



thanks both of you.

Sebastian Miles February 12th 05 07:15 PM

I loved the courtesy flag for Panama, You have to remember which is the
proper way up. They didnt like it very much when you flew their flag upside
down :P

Sebas

"varnish" wrote in message
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Jack Dale wrote:

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:21:56 -1000, renewontime dot com
wrote:

varnish wrote:
I'm a UK yachtsman planning to sail the US and Canadian east coasts.

What is the proper courtesy flag to fly in your two countries? Are

they
just smaller version of your national flags, or do you have a special
maritime flag, like our red ensign?

thanks.

Yes, courtesy flag for both countries is the National flag flown from
the starboard spreader.

The courtesy flag should be .5 inches for each foot of LOA.



thanks both of you.




Doug Dotson February 13th 05 01:18 AM


"Jack Dale" wrote in message
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On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:21:56 -1000, renewontime dot com
wrote:

varnish wrote:
I'm a UK yachtsman planning to sail the US and Canadian east coasts.

What is the proper courtesy flag to fly in your two countries? Are they
just smaller version of your national flags, or do you have a special
maritime flag, like our red ensign?

thanks.


Yes, courtesy flag for both countries is the National flag flown from
the starboard spreader.

The courtesy flag should be .5 inches for each foot of LOA.


Is that a US rule (or guideline)?





Len February 13th 05 10:08 AM

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:

Is that a US rule (or guideline)?


If it is a US - Rule, my goodness, what does that mean to the rest of
the world? (sorry, couldn't help it)

Anyway, in Europe it is a custom to fly a courtesy flag from the
starboard spreader also. There is no other rule but the esthetic
virtues of the skipper to establish the correct measurement in
relation to the size of the vessel. I believe courtesy flags come in 2
sizes tops.
Len.

Lauri Tarkkonen February 13th 05 12:30 PM

In 1108289472.38ad755c113bc71a9d36646b17723861@teran ews Len writes:

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:


Is that a US rule (or guideline)?


If it is a US - Rule, my goodness, what does that mean to the rest of
the world? (sorry, couldn't help it)


Anyway, in Europe it is a custom to fly a courtesy flag from the
starboard spreader also. There is no other rule but the esthetic
virtues of the skipper to establish the correct measurement in
relation to the size of the vessel. I believe courtesy flags come in 2
sizes tops.


Most shops carry only two sizes, but there is no law against ordering
from the maker custom size to your fancy.

- Lauri Tarkkonen


Jack Dale February 13th 05 03:53 PM

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 20:18:57 -0500, "Doug Dotson"
dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:


"Jack Dale" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:21:56 -1000, renewontime dot com
wrote:

varnish wrote:
I'm a UK yachtsman planning to sail the US and Canadian east coasts.

What is the proper courtesy flag to fly in your two countries? Are they
just smaller version of your national flags, or do you have a special
maritime flag, like our red ensign?

thanks.

Yes, courtesy flag for both countries is the National flag flown from
the starboard spreader.

The courtesy flag should be .5 inches for each foot of LOA.


Is that a US rule (or guideline)?


I think it is a guideline. John Rousmaniere has this in The Annapolis
Book of Seamanship.

Jack

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Swiftsure Sailing Academy
Director/ISPA and CYA Instructor
http://www.swiftsuresailing.com
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Armond Perretta February 13th 05 07:34 PM

Jack Dale wrote:

I think it is a guideline. John Rousmaniere has this in The
Annapolis Book of Seamanship.


I think John should row through a crowded anchorage and get in touch with
reality. For example, it's easy enough to encounter 400+ foreign-flagged
vessels of various sizes in Exuma during the winter and spring seasons.
With few exceptions these boats are showing a typical West Marine (or
equivalent) Bahamas cheapo courtesy flag (and I include those boats beyond
the reach of most readers of this group). According to John (as represented
by Jack's attribution) each of these boats should have bothered to have
custom-sized Bahamian flags manufactured that adhere to his "rule."

John is a Connecticut person who was born into the life and has probably
never met a payroll. I'm not sure what he has actually done besides
writing for yachting magazines and lounging at yacht clubs and writing a
book or two. The majority of us will probably survive by ignoring his
"rules."

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.home.comcast.net/








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