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[email protected] February 14th 05 03:40 AM

South of Maryland, it is sometimes expected that you should replace the
Stars 'n Stripes with the Stars 'n Bars.


Armond Perretta wrote:
Jack Dale wrote:

I think it is a guideline. John Rousmaniere has this in The
Annapolis Book of Seamanship.


I think John should row through a crowded anchorage and get in touch

with
reality. For example, it's easy enough to encounter 400+

foreign-flagged
vessels of various sizes in Exuma during the winter and spring

seasons.
With few exceptions these boats are showing a typical West Marine (or
equivalent) Bahamas cheapo courtesy flag (and I include those boats

beyond
the reach of most readers of this group). According to John (as

represented
by Jack's attribution) each of these boats should have bothered to

have
custom-sized Bahamian flags manufactured that adhere to his "rule."

John is a Connecticut person who was born into the life and has

probably
never met a payroll. I'm not sure what he has actually done besides
writing for yachting magazines and lounging at yacht clubs and

writing a
book or two. The majority of us will probably survive by ignoring

his
"rules."

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.home.comcast.net/



rhys February 14th 05 03:43 AM

On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 17:59:37 GMT, Jack Dale
wrote:



The courtesy flag should be .5 inches for each foot of LOA.


While perhaps technically correct (I haven't checked but it rings a
bell), I think if anyone between 25 and 40 feet has a fairly standard
"sheet of office paper" sized flag, you will pass "courtesy" muster.

Please be aware, however, when you've transited from one country's
territorial waters into another's.

You will also note that the flags of Canada and the U.S are different
ratios. I believe Canada's is 2:1 and the States is 3:5.

The U.S. also has a "maritime" flag but I believe that is for U.S.
owners only and is optional to them.

R.


Scott Vernon February 14th 05 12:29 PM


wrote in message
ps.com...
South of Maryland, it is sometimes expected that you should replace

the
Stars 'n Stripes with the Stars 'n Bars.


Only on your trucks' grill.

SV



Rosalie B. February 14th 05 12:37 PM

(Lauri Tarkkonen) wrote:

In 1108289472.38ad755c113bc71a9d36646b17723861@teran ews Len writes:

"Doug Dotson" dougdotson@NOSPAMcablespeedNOSPAMcom wrote:


Is that a US rule (or guideline)?


If it is a US - Rule, my goodness, what does that mean to the rest of
the world? (sorry, couldn't help it)


Anyway, in Europe it is a custom to fly a courtesy flag from the
starboard spreader also. There is no other rule but the esthetic
virtues of the skipper to establish the correct measurement in
relation to the size of the vessel. I believe courtesy flags come in 2
sizes tops.


Most shops carry only two sizes, but there is no law against ordering
from the maker custom size to your fancy.

- Lauri Tarkkonen

US flags (and I'm sure Canadian flags) come in a variety of sizes.
Since in both cases the courtesy flag is just the flag of the country
and not a special flag (like it is in the Bahamas), you can just get
whatever size you think appropriate.

I have a printout of the flags of the world that I take with me on the
boat.

grandma Rosalie

rhys February 14th 05 02:54 PM

On 13 Feb 2005 19:40:38 -0800, wrote:

South of Maryland, it is sometimes expected that you should replace the
Stars 'n Stripes with the Stars 'n Bars.


You're joking, right? Wasn't that flag just "retired" from the last
state that used it as a state flag?

R. (who wonders if he should dig up a 1939 German ensign for
Paraguay).

Don White February 14th 05 03:38 PM


"Rosalie B." wrote in message
...
US flags (and I'm sure Canadian flags) come in a variety of sizes.
Since in both cases the courtesy flag is just the flag of the country
and not a special flag (like it is in the Bahamas), you can just get
whatever size you think appropriate.

I have a printout of the flags of the world that I take with me on the
boat.



The 'national flag' is the only proper courtesy flag in Canada. As a side
note...tomorrow is the 40th anniversary of our maple leaf flag. before that
it was the 'red ensign'.



Rosalie B. February 14th 05 09:52 PM

"Don White" wrote:


"Rosalie B." wrote in message
.. .
US flags (and I'm sure Canadian flags) come in a variety of sizes.
Since in both cases the courtesy flag is just the flag of the country
and not a special flag (like it is in the Bahamas), you can just get
whatever size you think appropriate.

I have a printout of the flags of the world that I take with me on the
boat.



The 'national flag' is the only proper courtesy flag in Canada.


Wasn't that what I said?

In the Bahamas however, the national flag is NOT the courtesy flag.

As a side
note...tomorrow is the 40th anniversary of our maple leaf flag. before that
it was the 'red ensign'.


grandma Rosalie

Larry W4CSC February 15th 05 03:38 AM

wrote in
ps.com:

South of Maryland, it is sometimes expected that you should replace the
Stars 'n Stripes with the Stars 'n Bars.


Especially if you're aground and would like our Southern Boys in that
bassboat with the twin 450 hp Merc Black Max outboards to haul your sorry
Yankee asses off the pluff mud bank.

Now THAT is a useful courtesy flag!.....BIGGER IS BETTER, TOO!



Scott Vernon February 15th 05 11:31 AM


"Larry W4CSC" wrote in message
...
wrote in
ps.com:

South of Maryland, it is sometimes expected that you should

replace the
Stars 'n Stripes with the Stars 'n Bars.


Especially if you're aground and would like our Southern Boys in

that
bassboat with the twin 450 hp Merc Black Max outboards to haul your

sorry
Yankee asses off the pluff mud bank.

Now THAT is a useful courtesy flag!.....BIGGER IS BETTER, TOO!


and a 'Dukes of Hazard' Dixie horn?



Don White February 15th 05 02:48 PM


"Scott Vernon" wrote in
and a 'Dukes of Hazard' Dixie horn?




Oh....them Dukes!




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