"Roger Long" wrote .
I need to buy a couple anchors for use in Maine and have been reading
the reviews on CruiseNews.net.

Does anyone think there is a real world difference between the "best"
and above average in these tests? Often tests like that just tell you
what was best on that particular day and location.

I like the look of the traditional plow and have a bow roller for one.
Is there a compelling reason to go with a Bruce or a Spade?

It is never a good idea to have two anchors of the same pattern. I sell
Spades but I am putting a CQR on the second roller.

In the New England area I would sugggest either a CQR or a steel Spade. The
Bruce sets very easily but it just doesn't have the holding power. The
Spade sets very reliably if you let it settle a few seconds before putting
any tension on the rode and resets quickly on its own. Which is kinda
counter intuitive as it is usually under tension when it resets. (I haven't
figured that out yet.) It realigns extremely well IF you use a proper size
model. The CQR doesn't have quite the holding power of the Spade in most
bottoms but it seems to perform a little better in soft mud.

My customers must like their Spades as I offer 30 day return privileges for
any reason and after more than 200 anchors nobody has returned one yet.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

What about the "buegel" (sp) anchor. I've been hearing alot of good things
about them. Widely used in Europe and now available in the states.


Jay


"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
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"Roger Long" wrote .
I need to buy a couple anchors for use in Maine and have been reading
the reviews on CruiseNews.net.

Does anyone think there is a real world difference between the "best"
and above average in these tests? Often tests like that just tell you
what was best on that particular day and location.

I like the look of the traditional plow and have a bow roller for one.
Is there a compelling reason to go with a Bruce or a Spade?

It is never a good idea to have two anchors of the same pattern. I sell
Spades but I am putting a CQR on the second roller.

In the New England area I would sugggest either a CQR or a steel Spade.
The
Bruce sets very easily but it just doesn't have the holding power. The
Spade sets very reliably if you let it settle a few seconds before putting
any tension on the rode and resets quickly on its own. Which is kinda
counter intuitive as it is usually under tension when it resets. (I
haven't
figured that out yet.) It realigns extremely well IF you use a proper
size
model. The CQR doesn't have quite the holding power of the Spade in most
bottoms but it seems to perform a little better in soft mud.

My customers must like their Spades as I offer 30 day return privileges
for
any reason and after more than 200 anchors nobody has returned one yet.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

We have a 42' ketch that we have sailed the east coast of Australia
and are now in Phuket. We use the Brugel (25 Kg) as our primary anchor
and it is great to use. Sets quickly, resets the same and easy to stow
as it has no moving parts. We even had a second one made in Aust. All
up we carry 4 anchors, 2 Brugels, 1 Danforth and a plough. The only
time we have had a problem is anchoring in silt at the mouth of a
river.
Tony
S/V Ambrosia

In article , "just me" wrote:
What about the "buegel" (sp) anchor. I've been hearing alot of good things
about them. Widely used in Europe and now available in the states.


Jay


Jay, for info on the Buegel Anchor try:

http://www.inter-yacht.com/Buegel/BuegelIntro.html

I've read through all the reviews and replies. I'm going to put a
Spade on my wish list of stuff to buy for that cruise to Newfoundland.
In the meantime I think a CQR, which the boat is already set up for,
is probably my best choice.

Is there any significant difference between the genuine CQR (which is
still more than I want to spend in the same year we paid for the boat)
and the Kingston or Sascot versions?

--

Roger Long

You might want to take a look at item #4524695234 on Ebay!



"Roger Long" wrote in message
...
I've read through all the reviews and replies. I'm going to put a Spade
on my wish list of stuff to buy for that cruise to Newfoundland. In the
meantime I think a CQR, which the boat is already set up for, is probably
my best choice.

Is there any significant difference between the genuine CQR (which is
still more than I want to spend in the same year we paid for the boat) and
the Kingston or Sascot versions?

--

Roger Long

On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 07:04:38 -0600, "just me"
wrote:

You might want to take a look at item #4524695234 on Ebay!



It is either not a CQR or it is not 316 stainless steel. Stainless
steel anchors that look like a CQR are very expensive anchors.

Yes, they are. It's not a CQR (brand) but it is 316 stainless

--

"Skipper" wrote in message
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On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 07:04:38 -0600, "just me"
wrote:

You might want to take a look at item #4524695234 on Ebay!



It is either not a CQR or it is not 316 stainless steel. Stainless
steel anchors that look like a CQR are very expensive anchors.

On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 03:13:32 GMT, "Roger Long"
wrote:

I've read through all the reviews and replies. I'm going to put a
Spade on my wish list of stuff to buy for that cruise to Newfoundland.
In the meantime I think a CQR, which the boat is already set up for,
is probably my best choice.

Is there any significant difference between the genuine CQR (which is
still more than I want to spend in the same year we paid for the boat)
and the Kingston or Sascot versions?

I have not heard anything bad about these new versions. Whatever
anchor you get, get oversize and use plenty of chain. Do not use
connecting links in your chain. Most chain failures are due to a "weak
link" from using a connecting link. Use only a shackle rated at least
as strong as your chain.
Remember that your ground tackle is the system that lets you sleep
in comfort. It's not your mattress or your heater that really gives
you comfort during the night; it's your anchor and rode.

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 03:13:32 GMT, "Roger Long"
wrote:

I've read through all the reviews and replies. I'm going to put a
Spade on my wish list of stuff to buy for that cruise to Newfoundland.
In the meantime I think a CQR, which the boat is already set up for,
is probably my best choice.

Is there any significant difference between the genuine CQR (which is
still more than I want to spend in the same year we paid for the boat)
and the Kingston or Sascot versions?

I have not heard anything bad about these new versions. Whatever
anchor you get, get oversize and use plenty of chain. Do not use
connecting links in your chain. Most chain failures are due to a "weak
link" from using a connecting link. Use only a shackle rated at least
as strong as your chain.
Remember that your ground tackle is the system that lets you sleep
in comfort. It's not your mattress or your heater that really gives
you comfort during the night; it's your anchor and rode.

Remember that your ground tackle is the system that lets you sleep
in comfort.

Well this prompts me to put in a plug for the Bruce. Every test I've read
shows that the Bruce anchor resets itself 100% of the time and quickly. If
the wind swings around 180 degrees while you are sleeping this could be
rather important. The only downside on the Bruce is the modest holding
power. In the real world I'm not sure how important this is. If you are
going to ride out a gale you will probably want to set an second anchor .