In the process of planning a possible spring and/or summer cruise in
Long Island Sound and nearby, after shipping "Gambier," a Eastbay 43,
drawing four feet, by truck from Ft. Lauderdale to probably northern NJ
for offloading and pick-up, I am asking for suggestions and comments
about:

How early ought one to begin a cruise on the Sound?
Crowdedness in general on the Sound?
Crowdedness in ??? ports, marinas, anchorages?
Better and best anchorages and marinas?
Better and best villages, towns and cities to visit, and why?
Best fuel (deisel) sources?
Your best comments and advise re cruising Long Island Sound?
Thanks much.

Ed Wagner
m/v Gambier

wrote:
In the process of planning a possible spring and/or summer cruise in
Long Island Sound and nearby, after shipping "Gambier," a Eastbay
43, drawing four feet, by truck from Ft. Lauderdale to probably
northern NJ for offloading and pick-up, I am asking for suggestions
and comments about:

How early ought one to begin a cruise on the Sound?
Crowdedness in general on the Sound?
Crowdedness in ??? ports, marinas, anchorages?
Better and best anchorages and marinas?
Better and best villages, towns and cities to visit, and why?
Best fuel (deisel) sources?
Your best comments and advise re cruising Long Island Sound?
Thanks much.

Ed Wagner
m/v Gambier



--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.home.comcast.net/

wrote:
In the process of planning a possible spring and/or summer cruise in
Long Island Sound and nearby, after shipping "Gambier," a Eastbay
43, drawing four feet, by truck from Ft. Lauderdale to probably
northern NJ for offloading and pick-up, I am asking for suggestions
and comments about:

How early ought one to begin a cruise on the Sound?
Crowdedness in general on the Sound?
Crowdedness in ??? ports, marinas, anchorages?
Better and best anchorages and marinas?
Better and best villages, towns and cities to visit, and why?
Best fuel (deisel) sources?
Your best comments and advise re cruising Long Island Sound?
Thanks much.

Ed Wagner
m/v Gambier

Hi Ed, nice to see you back on the group after a long absence. Re LIS, I
can heartily recommend that you pick up one (or more) of the 10 or 20
cruising guides available for the area (since it is one of the most heavily
traveled areas in existence).

Then report back after you have digested all of the easily available
information that the rest of us have studied for the last 20 or so years.

I hope you have had a very pleasant holiday season.

Best regards,

Armond


--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.home.comcast.net/

For sure, see City Island, Port Washington, Oyster Bay, Northport (none are
crowded), and probably Block Island (definitely crowded weekends).

Port Jefferson is okay, but it is a ways from the anchorage to town. Mattituck
Inlet is nice, but not near much and rumor has it it has shoaled to under
4-1/2' at low tide. Newport has no effective anchorage, and you need to arrive
early in the morning to catch a mooring (was $50, may have gone up).

In NJ, Horseshoe Cove and Atlantic Highlands are decent anchorages. Plan on an
overnight trip Cape May to AH.

Watch currents at Hell Gate. Plan on arriving at HG 1 hour 20 minutes after
high tide at The Battery for high slack water at HG and a ride with the current
to HG and away from HG.

Watch current through The Race (eastern end of LIS) whick can be strong. If
caught in adverse current there go close to shore.

Lots of anchorages along CT coast, but lots of rocks protecting the approaches.

LIS can be a mite cool into early May.

NY City Parks and Rec has mooring available at 79th Street boat basin. Last
summer, in season, theye were I think $40 a day. You *definitely* need a motor
on your dinghy as the currents can be strong. Restaurant right there, plus a
two block walk to tons more of everything on Broadway, plus a subway station to
take you anywhere. Buy a Metro card and go, with free transfers to MTA buses.
79th St BB is recommended if you want to see Manhattan, and a lot of tourist
do.

Liberty Landing Marina and Libertay State Marina (can't remember which is
which, but the one on the south side of the old Deleware Canal is far better,
ignore the one on the north side) each have (separate) ferries to Manhattan
(which ferries -may- have run out of funding and stopped running, there was
talk of that about to happen). neither is effectively close enough to a PATH
train (to Manhattan) to be useful. The other marinas on the Jersey side of the
Hudson don't want you there unless you have a mega-buck$$ Yotte.

Forget staying at Chesea Piers in Manhattan.

Enjoy.

In the process of planning a possible spring and/or summer cruise in
Long Island Sound and nearby, after shipping "Gambier," a Eastbay 43,
drawing four feet, by truck from Ft. Lauderdale to probably northern NJ
for offloading and pick-up, I am asking for suggestions and comments
about:

How early ought one to begin a cruise on the Sound?
Crowdedness in general on the Sound?
Crowdedness in ??? ports, marinas, anchorages?
Better and best anchorages and marinas?
Better and best villages, towns and cities to visit, and why?
Best fuel (deisel) sources?
Your best comments and advise re cruising Long Island Sound?
Thanks much.

Ed Wagner
m/v Gambier

hoary, get out of your wheelchair every now and then. It has been close to 50
years since you were on the water on LIS. Red Ryder, Hopalong Cassidy and Tex
Ritter have been dead a loooooooooooooooooooooooong time. Hell, even Ritter's
son is dead and Little Beaver is an old man in jail.

From: Harry Krause
Date: 12/27/2004 4:37 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

JAXAshby wrote:
For sure, see City Island, Port Washington, Oyster Bay, Northport (none are
crowded), and probably Block Island (definitely crowded weekends).

Port Jefferson is okay, but it is a ways from the anchorage to town.
Mattituck
Inlet is nice, but not near much and rumor has it it has shoaled to under
4-1/2' at low tide. Newport has no effective anchorage, and you need to
arrive
early in the morning to catch a mooring (was $50, may have gone up).

In NJ, Horseshoe Cove and Atlantic Highlands are decent anchorages. Plan
on an
overnight trip Cape May to AH.

Watch currents at Hell Gate. Plan on arriving at HG 1 hour 20 minutes
after
high tide at The Battery for high slack water at HG and a ride with the
current
to HG and away from HG.

Watch current through The Race (eastern end of LIS) whick can be strong.
If
caught in adverse current there go close to shore.

Lots of anchorages along CT coast, but lots of rocks protecting the
approaches.

LIS can be a mite cool into early May.

NY City Parks and Rec has mooring available at 79th Street boat basin.
Last
summer, in season, theye were I think $40 a day. You *definitely* need a
motor
on your dinghy as the currents can be strong. Restaurant right there, plus
a
two block walk to tons more of everything on Broadway, plus a subway
station to
take you anywhere. Buy a Metro card and go, with free transfers to MTA
buses.
79th St BB is recommended if you want to see Manhattan, and a lot of
tourist
do.

Liberty Landing Marina and Libertay State Marina (can't remember which is
which, but the one on the south side of the old Deleware Canal is far
better,
ignore the one on the north side) each have (separate) ferries to Manhattan
(which ferries -may- have run out of funding and stopped running, there was
talk of that about to happen). neither is effectively close enough to a
PATH
train (to Manhattan) to be useful. The other marinas on the Jersey side of
the
Hudson don't want you there unless you have a mega-buck$$ Yotte.

Forget staying at Chesea Piers in Manhattan.

Enjoy.


In the process of planning a possible spring and/or summer cruise in
Long Island Sound and nearby, after shipping "Gambier," a Eastbay 43,
drawing four feet, by truck from Ft. Lauderdale to probably northern NJ
for offloading and pick-up, I am asking for suggestions and comments
about:

How early ought one to begin a cruise on the Sound?
Crowdedness in general on the Sound?
Crowdedness in ??? ports, marinas, anchorages?
Better and best anchorages and marinas?
Better and best villages, towns and cities to visit, and why?
Best fuel (deisel) sources?
Your best comments and advise re cruising Long Island Sound?
Thanks much.

Ed Wagner
m/v Gambier




The Connecticut shoreline and its ports are far more interesting,
and...you're less likely to encounter JaxAshby lounging around in his
Speedo.

Long Island Sound
Places to visit
I don't know where you are launching from but given that you are running an
Eastbay you can cover a lot of distance be sure to get to the eastern end of
the sound and also I assume you have a dingy but that isn't a show
stopper..
Here are few of my favorites.
Mystic Seaport, great maritime village recreation the equal of
Williamsburg, make a reservation now, they have both slips and spaces at the
bulkhead at the NYYC station.
The Connecticut River -stay at Essex, two Marinas, a YC, and a river
museum, eat at the Griswold Inn a must, go a little further and visit
Hamburg Cove
The LI Fishtail Shelter Island Peconic Bay, Try the Shelter Island YC
in Deering Harbor or if you don't draw too much try Cockles Harbor (skinny
water but spectacular and peaceful), if you don,t want to anchor try the
marina (the Laundromat abuts the pool,) Sag Harbor (make reservations early,
Further East Newport,great place Lots going on at the waterfront and if
you have never seen the "Cottages" grab a cab and tour one or two (think
what Gatsby might have built if he had Vanderbilt's $) Old Port
Marine handles the moorings and provides Launch Service
Block Island like a trip back to the 1940s, very little anchoring left.
Town runs the moorings, first come first serve if you want a mooring get
there first thing Sunday, Mon, Tues or Weds morning maybe Thurs.
forget Fri and Sat. Alternatively try one of the marinas (but you must
really want company)
If you are near the sound you are near the Hudson take a up cruise north,
Go up to Cornwall and stop at what to me is a really unique YC, (he trip
through past West Point under the Bear Mountain Bridge is worth the whole
deal)
Circumnavigate Manhattan, once around the Island down, from the sound go
clockwise up the Harlem River (you will clear all the bridges (27ft) except
there railroad bridge, but if you follow a "Circle Line" tour boat
they will arrive just as the bridge is opening. (note directly across the
river on the New Jersey side is public Marina with really great fuel prices.
The Marina looks seedy but is very secure and peaceful
Stop at Liberty Island Marina it will give you the best view of lower
Manhattan you can ever hope for,
(If you are a photographer wait for a clear day near sunset) Water Taxi
connects with
Manhattan ,Don't miss the Ellis Island Museum and Statue of Liberty
(Park service boat leaves from the LI Marina)
Check the tides and go up the East River and back into the sound. (NOTE
NEW YORK HARBOR HAS DANGERS BESIDE HELL GATE- be mindful of semi submerged
lumber and other debris and also watch out for the high speed
passenger ferries)
Definitely get some good charts and one of the Marine Guidebooks.

Let us know how you do.

wrote in message
oups.com...
In the process of planning a possible spring and/or summer cruise in
Long Island Sound and nearby, after shipping "Gambier," a Eastbay 43,
drawing four feet, by truck from Ft. Lauderdale to probably northern NJ
for offloading and pick-up, I am asking for suggestions and comments
about:

How early ought one to begin a cruise on the Sound?
Crowdedness in general on the Sound?
Crowdedness in ??? ports, marinas, anchorages?
Better and best anchorages and marinas?
Better and best villages, towns and cities to visit, and why?
Best fuel (deisel) sources?
Your best comments and advise re cruising Long Island Sound?
Thanks much.

Ed Wagner
m/v Gambier

Block Island like a trip back to the 1940s, very little anchoring left.
Town runs the moorings, first come first serve if you want a mooring get
there first thing Sunday, Mon, Tues or Weds morning maybe Thurs.
forget Fri and Sat.

you, you frickin clown, have no idea what the Great Salt Pond on Block Island
looks like. Please, in the future, shut the frick up.

please shut the frick up. you do not have a frickin clew.

From: "Wry Vaio"
Date: 12/27/2004 10:12 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: ta4Ad.30079$k25.11137@attbi_s53

Long Island Sound
Places to visit
I don't know where you are launching from but given that you are running an
Eastbay you can cover a lot of distance be sure to get to the eastern end of
the sound and also I assume you have a dingy but that isn't a show
stopper..
Here are few of my favorites.
Mystic Seaport, great maritime village recreation the equal of
Williamsburg, make a reservation now, they have both slips and spaces at the
bulkhead at the NYYC station.
The Connecticut River -stay at Essex, two Marinas, a YC, and a river
museum, eat at the Griswold Inn a must, go a little further and visit
Hamburg Cove
The LI Fishtail Shelter Island Peconic Bay, Try the Shelter Island YC
in Deering Harbor or if you don't draw too much try Cockles Harbor (skinny
water but spectacular and peaceful), if you don,t want to anchor try the
marina (the Laundromat abuts the pool,) Sag Harbor (make reservations early,
Further East Newport,great place Lots going on at the waterfront and if
you have never seen the "Cottages" grab a cab and tour one or two (think
what Gatsby might have built if he had Vanderbilt's $) Old Port
Marine handles the moorings and provides Launch Service
Block Island like a trip back to the 1940s, very little anchoring left.
Town runs the moorings, first come first serve if you want a mooring get
there first thing Sunday, Mon, Tues or Weds morning maybe Thurs.
forget Fri and Sat. Alternatively try one of the marinas (but you must
really want company)
If you are near the sound you are near the Hudson take a up cruise north,
Go up to Cornwall and stop at what to me is a really unique YC, (he trip
through past West Point under the Bear Mountain Bridge is worth the whole
deal)
Circumnavigate Manhattan, once around the Island down, from the sound go
clockwise up the Harlem River (you will clear all the bridges (27ft) except
there railroad bridge, but if you follow a "Circle Line" tour boat
they will arrive just as the bridge is opening. (note directly across the
river on the New Jersey side is public Marina with really great fuel prices.
The Marina looks seedy but is very secure and peaceful
Stop at Liberty Island Marina it will give you the best view of lower
Manhattan you can ever hope for,
(If you are a photographer wait for a clear day near sunset) Water Taxi
connects with
Manhattan ,Don't miss the Ellis Island Museum and Statue of Liberty
(Park service boat leaves from the LI Marina)
Check the tides and go up the East River and back into the sound. (NOTE
NEW YORK HARBOR HAS DANGERS BESIDE HELL GATE- be mindful of semi submerged
lumber and other debris and also watch out for the high speed
passenger ferries)
Definitely get some good charts and one of the Marine Guidebooks.

Let us know how you do.

wrote in message
roups.com...
In the process of planning a possible spring and/or summer cruise in
Long Island Sound and nearby, after shipping "Gambier," a Eastbay 43,
drawing four feet, by truck from Ft. Lauderdale to probably northern NJ
for offloading and pick-up, I am asking for suggestions and comments
about:

How early ought one to begin a cruise on the Sound?
Crowdedness in general on the Sound?
Crowdedness in ??? ports, marinas, anchorages?
Better and best anchorages and marinas?
Better and best villages, towns and cities to visit, and why?
Best fuel (deisel) sources?
Your best comments and advise re cruising Long Island Sound?
Thanks much.

Ed Wagner
m/v Gambier

ignore EVERYTHING this ignornant dood says. ask a local. this dood doesn't
have a clew. again ASK A LOCAL.

From: "Wry Vaio"
Date: 12/27/2004 10:12 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: ta4Ad.30079$k25.11137@attbi_s53

Long Island Sound
Places to visit
I don't know where you are launching from but given that you are running an
Eastbay you can cover a lot of distance be sure to get to the eastern end of
the sound and also I assume you have a dingy but that isn't a show
stopper..
Here are few of my favorites.
Mystic Seaport, great maritime village recreation the equal of
Williamsburg, make a reservation now, they have both slips and spaces at the
bulkhead at the NYYC station.
The Connecticut River -stay at Essex, two Marinas, a YC, and a river
museum, eat at the Griswold Inn a must, go a little further and visit
Hamburg Cove
The LI Fishtail Shelter Island Peconic Bay, Try the Shelter Island YC
in Deering Harbor or if you don't draw too much try Cockles Harbor (skinny
water but spectacular and peaceful), if you don,t want to anchor try the
marina (the Laundromat abuts the pool,) Sag Harbor (make reservations early,
Further East Newport,great place Lots going on at the waterfront and if
you have never seen the "Cottages" grab a cab and tour one or two (think
what Gatsby might have built if he had Vanderbilt's $) Old Port
Marine handles the moorings and provides Launch Service
Block Island like a trip back to the 1940s, very little anchoring left.
Town runs the moorings, first come first serve if you want a mooring get
there first thing Sunday, Mon, Tues or Weds morning maybe Thurs.
forget Fri and Sat. Alternatively try one of the marinas (but you must
really want company)
If you are near the sound you are near the Hudson take a up cruise north,
Go up to Cornwall and stop at what to me is a really unique YC, (he trip
through past West Point under the Bear Mountain Bridge is worth the whole
deal)
Circumnavigate Manhattan, once around the Island down, from the sound go
clockwise up the Harlem River (you will clear all the bridges (27ft) except
there railroad bridge, but if you follow a "Circle Line" tour boat
they will arrive just as the bridge is opening. (note directly across the
river on the New Jersey side is public Marina with really great fuel prices.
The Marina looks seedy but is very secure and peaceful
Stop at Liberty Island Marina it will give you the best view of lower
Manhattan you can ever hope for,
(If you are a photographer wait for a clear day near sunset) Water Taxi
connects with
Manhattan ,Don't miss the Ellis Island Museum and Statue of Liberty
(Park service boat leaves from the LI Marina)
Check the tides and go up the East River and back into the sound. (NOTE
NEW YORK HARBOR HAS DANGERS BESIDE HELL GATE- be mindful of semi submerged
lumber and other debris and also watch out for the high speed
passenger ferries)
Definitely get some good charts and one of the Marine Guidebooks.

Let us know how you do.

wrote in message
roups.com...
In the process of planning a possible spring and/or summer cruise in
Long Island Sound and nearby, after shipping "Gambier," a Eastbay 43,
drawing four feet, by truck from Ft. Lauderdale to probably northern NJ
for offloading and pick-up, I am asking for suggestions and comments
about:

How early ought one to begin a cruise on the Sound?
Crowdedness in general on the Sound?
Crowdedness in ??? ports, marinas, anchorages?
Better and best anchorages and marinas?
Better and best villages, towns and cities to visit, and why?
Best fuel (deisel) sources?
Your best comments and advise re cruising Long Island Sound?
Thanks much.

Ed Wagner
m/v Gambier

On 27 Dec 2004 09:56:20 -0800, wrote:
In the process of planning a possible spring and/or summer cruise in
Long Island Sound and nearby, after shipping "Gambier," a Eastbay 43,
drawing four feet, by truck from Ft. Lauderdale to probably northern NJ
for offloading and pick-up, I am asking for suggestions and comments
about:

How early ought one to begin a cruise on the Sound?
Crowdedness in general on the Sound?
Crowdedness in ??? ports, marinas, anchorages?
Better and best anchorages and marinas?
Better and best villages, towns and cities to visit, and why?
Best fuel (deisel) sources?
Your best comments and advise re cruising Long Island Sound?
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With a generator and heat, you can begin cruising in mid-April.
Nights will be cool. We use an inverter driven electric blanket and
then run the generator for a while at breakfast to recharge, cook and
heat the hot water tank.

The best way to avoid crowds is to avoid July and August. Early and
late season can be wonderful. Oyster Bay, North Port and Port
Jefferson are all big enough to cruise mid-season and have good
anchorages.

Best marinas are the Brewer's Yacht Yards. There are at least 12 at
last count. The first you will encounter are at Manhasset Bay and
Stamford Harbor. Pick up a brochure for info on the others or check
out their web site. http://www.byy.com/

Best villages and towns are very subjective but here's my "don't miss"
list: Larchmont, Oyster Bay, City Island (part of NYC), Manhasset,
Essex (on Connecticut River), Mystic, Port Jefferson. For marine
services, Stamford, CT and Westbrook, CT are hard to beat.

Cheapest fuel, both gas and diesel, that we have found is at a little
fishing dock in Noank, CT. It is between buoys N12 and N14 as you go
upriver towards Mystic. By all means stay over night at Mystic
seaport at their docks. It is a great stop.

Going east from LIS, don't miss Newport, RI; Block Island, RI;
Cuttyhunk Island and Marthas Vineyard.