JAXAshby wrote:
jeffies, *you* have never seen that canal and never will, not even from the
highway.

You're right. I've never seen it. Neither have you.


I am well aware you have never seen it and never will. If you had seen it, you
wouldn't make the fumb duck statements about it being a "lock" you do.

I have seen it, jeffies, many times. Up close and personal.
You're clearly lying. Or you don't know what a lock is. Or more likely
both. Which is it, jaxie?

Just to be clear, here's a picture of the lock in the Shinnecock Canal:
http://www.sv-loki.com/shinnecock.jpg
Why do you say this in not a lock?

I have seen it and many times. And I -- like the CG and C of Eng -- know what
a lock is and does.

you have never seen it and never will. you do not now know what a lock is and
never will.

I am still looking for any "lock" on the East River, required by the difference
in water height on one end as compared to the other end.



From: Jeff Morris
Date: 12/11/2004 9:09 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

JAXAshby wrote:
jeffies, *you* have never seen that canal and never will, not even from
the
highway.

You're right. I've never seen it. Neither have you.


I am well aware you have never seen it and never will. If you had seen it,
you
wouldn't make the fumb duck statements about it being a "lock" you do.

I have seen it, jeffies, many times. Up close and personal.
You're clearly lying. Or you don't know what a lock is. Or more likely
both. Which is it, jaxie?

Just to be clear, here's a picture of the lock in the Shinnecock Canal:
http://www.sv-loki.com/shinnecock.jpg
Why do you say this in not a lock?

JAXAshby wrote:
I have seen it and many times. And I -- like the CG and C of Eng -- know what
a lock is and does.

So why does the Corps call it a lock? Why does the Coast Pilot call it
a lock? Why do the builders of it and the operators call it a lock?
Why can't you find a single reference to a site that says its not a lock?


you have never seen it and never will. you do not now know what a lock is and
never will.

Right Jaxie. I learned to sail on the Charles River and used the locks
there dozens, maybe hundreds, of times. I've gone through the Erie
Canal several times. The Troy Locks, the Dismal Swamp locks. Great
Bridge. In fact, there's only a few locks on the East Coast I haven't
been through.



I am still looking for any "lock" on the East River, required by the difference
in water height on one end as compared to the other end.


What's your point? There is a significant tide difference, but there is
no lock. Why is the impossible for you to understand?

On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 09:09:26 -0500, Jeff Morris
wrote:

... here's a picture of the lock in the Shinnecock Canal:

http://www.sv-loki.com/shinnecock.jpg

.....

Looks like the right channel is the lock with upper and lower lock
gates. The two channels on the left look like tide gates to me.

On an inland canal like the Grand Union for example,
the tide gates are replaced by a weir/barrier to hold a constant
upstream height. Here's a flight of locks I walked up, last week,
near Kenilworth which illustrates these features:

=phRIQMCBh9i7Nllq

Brian W

having two gates does not make it a lock. Using to raise or lower boats makes
it a lock.

geesh. call it peanut butter and that makes it a sandwich?

... here's a picture of the lock in the Shinnecock Canal:

JAXAshby wrote:
having two gates does not make it a lock. Using to raise or lower boats makes
it a lock.

having two gates on either end of a chamber means that it was built as a
lock. Since I've posted about a dozen references that it was actually
used in that manner would seem to indicate that it really is a lock.

Now you've made a claim that the gates are kept open while the current
flows in both directions. Whether or not that's true does change the
fact that its a lock. However, you've been completely unable to
substantiate your claim. Since I've cited about a dozen references,
includes the Army Corps, NOAA, the agency the owns and operates it, the
company that repairs it, and a number of people who have gone through
recently, and all say its a lock, that mean that I win, 12 zip.



geesh. call it peanut butter and that makes it a sandwich?


... here's a picture of the lock in the Shinnecock Canal: