Hi all

I have been planning to build a steel kit boat (something along the
lines of a Bruce Roberts Spray 40) but I need the space! Where do you
look?

I live near Manhattan. The few places that do lease out
manufacturing/industrial property around here are either WAY too
expensive and offer only large lots (min 5000 sq feet, but I only need
1400 sq ft max) and require a LOT of paperwork.

At this point I am considering renting a lot on a farm or something
somewhere far inland - maybe even Mexico or Canada - and hope that I
can still somehow get a trailer and a crane to my site to cart it off
(this boat on a trailer will probably be taller than 15 feet - how
would it get through an underpass or bridge?) I'd be willing to rent
out my house and live in a trailer on the lot!

Any hints or suggestions?

Any former boatbuilders who can make me a decent offer?

Thanks
Sam

Buy / rent a barn in PA, then haul it to Philly or Baltimore or Jersey
to splash. 15' high is not a big deal.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_


"Sami" wrote in message
om...
Hi all

I have been planning to build a steel kit boat (something along the
lines of a Bruce Roberts Spray 40) but I need the space! Where do
you
look?

I live near Manhattan. The few places that do lease out
manufacturing/industrial property around here are either WAY too
expensive and offer only large lots (min 5000 sq feet, but I only
need
1400 sq ft max) and require a LOT of paperwork.

At this point I am considering renting a lot on a farm or something
somewhere far inland - maybe even Mexico or Canada - and hope that I
can still somehow get a trailer and a crane to my site to cart it
off
(this boat on a trailer will probably be taller than 15 feet - how
would it get through an underpass or bridge?) I'd be willing to rent
out my house and live in a trailer on the lot!

Any hints or suggestions?

Any former boatbuilders who can make me a decent offer?

Thanks
Sam

Have you priced steel lately?

You might want to consider this:

http://www.boatowner.com/cgi-bin/atl...=second&id=120

53" Roberts steel hull, never launched AND 165 hp perkins for less than
the price of the steel OR the Perkins- $6,000. The best part.... its in
New York!

Here's a hint, it's been on the market for over a year, you might get it
for free if you have a good story for the owner.

Let me know how it goes.

David
s/v Nausicaa

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Assuming that your boat is not too long (e.g., 40' is the max length of a
trailer in N.J.) and not too wide for you to get a Wide Load Permit to
move
it over the highways, as your recognize, you have the height problem to
deal
with.

So get a wide load permit and move it on a Sunday morning if it is really
big. 40' boats are moved all the time on the highways.

The Eastern states have 13' 6" max. height. You might have to build
the hull in an inland location and then add the upper structure at the
shore. That's what was done with my parents' 32' cabin cruiser. Chris
Craft shipped it without the windshield and hardtop being mounted, and
then
the dealer mounted them.

The usual way this is dealt with is that the truck takes the exit at an
overpass and goes _around_ the height restriction. They also avoid the
interstates if required.

I've seen some pretty big sailboats moving along the highways. Pick a
location reasonably near the water if you want, but I think proximity to a
large city is more important (for shopping for those items you forgot to get
on a given day).

I agree that Manhattan is out of the question with cost for a space and a
typical farmer's barn is what you need to be looking for. Mexico and Canada
aren't required, just a semi-rural part of PA, NJ, or NY perhaps.

Heck you think you have problems with a 40' x what 12'-14' wide boat?

Check out this site (scroll to the bottom of the menu on left and click "On
to San Francisco"). That boat has to be 24' wide or so...
http://svrikki.net/RTT/On2SF.html

Good luck.


--
Evan Gatehouse

you'll have to rewrite my email address to get to me
ceilydh AT 3web dot net
(fools the spammers)

wrote

Assuming that your boat is not too long (e.g., 40' is the max length
of a
trailer in N.J.)


No it's not. 53'ers are commomn trailers now-a-days.

and not too wide for you to get a Wide Load Permit to move
it over the highways,

Keep it under 20' wide and you'll have no problems getting permits.


as your recognize, you have the height problem to deal
with. The Eastern states have 13' 6" max. height.


Actually, 14' without a permit. With a permit , 18' or more.



You might have to build
the hull in an inland location and then add the upper structure at
the
shore. That's what was done with my parents' 32' cabin cruiser.
Chris
Craft shipped it without the windshield and hardtop being mounted,
and then
the dealer mounted them.


That's SOP for big stink potters. It saves money.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

"Evan Gatehouse" wrote

So get a wide load permit and move it on a Sunday morning if it is
really
big. 40' boats are moved all the time on the highways.

Evan, you can't move oversize loads on Sundays. Or, after noon on
Saturday (most eastern states).

--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

You could also consider Long Island. Lots of empty warehouse type locations
lot of marinas and transporters.

You mention overpasses as the obsticle, there not your problemwith
transporting. Its power lines they are all over the place and often lower
than they should be legally.


"Evan Gatehouse" wrote in message
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wrote in message

Assuming that your boat is not too long (e.g., 40' is the max length of a
trailer in N.J.) and not too wide for you to get a Wide Load Permit to
move
it over the highways, as your recognize, you have the height problem to
deal
with.

So get a wide load permit and move it on a Sunday morning if it is really
big. 40' boats are moved all the time on the highways.

The Eastern states have 13' 6" max. height. You might have to build
the hull in an inland location and then add the upper structure at the
shore. That's what was done with my parents' 32' cabin cruiser. Chris
Craft shipped it without the windshield and hardtop being mounted, and
then
the dealer mounted them.

The usual way this is dealt with is that the truck takes the exit at an
overpass and goes _around_ the height restriction. They also avoid the
interstates if required.

I've seen some pretty big sailboats moving along the highways. Pick a
location reasonably near the water if you want, but I think proximity to a
large city is more important (for shopping for those items you forgot to
get
on a given day).

I agree that Manhattan is out of the question with cost for a space and a
typical farmer's barn is what you need to be looking for. Mexico and
Canada
aren't required, just a semi-rural part of PA, NJ, or NY perhaps.

Heck you think you have problems with a 40' x what 12'-14' wide boat?

Check out this site (scroll to the bottom of the menu on left and click
"On
to San Francisco"). That boat has to be 24' wide or so...
http://svrikki.net/RTT/On2SF.html

Good luck.


--
Evan Gatehouse

you'll have to rewrite my email address to get to me
ceilydh AT 3web dot net
(fools the spammers)

Look for space in the older (post) industrial cities along the Hudson. Call
a realestate agent in places like Newburg. Your looking for commerical
space find some one who deals in that and spend 10 minutes on the phone.
Doesn't take long and you might get lucky.


"Sami" wrote in message
om...
Hi all

I have been planning to build a steel kit boat (something along the
lines of a Bruce Roberts Spray 40) but I need the space! Where do you
look?

I live near Manhattan. The few places that do lease out
manufacturing/industrial property around here are either WAY too
expensive and offer only large lots (min 5000 sq feet, but I only need
1400 sq ft max) and require a LOT of paperwork.

At this point I am considering renting a lot on a farm or something
somewhere far inland - maybe even Mexico or Canada - and hope that I
can still somehow get a trailer and a crane to my site to cart it off
(this boat on a trailer will probably be taller than 15 feet - how
would it get through an underpass or bridge?) I'd be willing to rent
out my house and live in a trailer on the lot!

Any hints or suggestions?

Any former boatbuilders who can make me a decent offer?

Thanks
Sam

Power lines can be lifted, bridges can't.

Sure they can it just costs more ;-)

Brian

You might care to try the Shelburne Shipyard on Lake Champlain. They
probably have the space and any unusual tools you may need, and they
can put it right in the water after completion.


http://www.shelburneshipyard.com/