For a cruise south from Peconic Bay, Long Island, going through the
Shinnecock Canal and Shinnecock Inlet would save many miles. Research
says the canal is fine by locking through, but the little available on
the Inlet says don't do it without local knowledge. Any advice on
navigating the Inlet is appreciated.

the currents can be swift indeed, and the mast must come if you are a sailboat.

btw, while there is a "gate" there sometimes closed to prevent wholesale
flooding of the bay with sea water (higher salt content than the bay), that
gate is in no way an actual lock, though there are some who like to think the
place is the Suez Canal

btw, Hampton Bays is decidedly shallow except for marked channel, and sometimes
there even.

btw-2, taking down the mast and putting it up are a DIY operation, with manual
equipment at each end.

For a cruise south from Peconic Bay, Long Island, going through the
Shinnecock Canal and Shinnecock Inlet would save many miles. Research
says the canal is fine by locking through, but the little available on
the Inlet says don't do it without local knowledge. Any advice on
navigating the Inlet is appreciated.







For a cruise south from Peconic Bay, Long Island, going through the
Shinnecock Canal and Shinnecock Inlet would save many miles. Research
says the canal is fine by locking through, but the little available on
the Inlet says don't do it without local knowledge. Any advice on
navigating the Inlet is appreciated.

On 15 Oct 2004 00:56:36 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

btw, while there is a "gate" there sometimes closed to prevent wholesale
flooding of the bay with sea water (higher salt content than the bay), that
gate is in no way an actual lock

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2 gates = 1 lock

Shinnecock canal has 2 gates. Gate 1 opens, boat enters, Gate 1
closes, water level equalizes, gate 2 opens, boat leaves.

Suez canal it's not, lock it is. Been there, done that. I once did
97 locks in two weeks. Shinnecock is a lock.

Shinnecock is a lock.

not according to the United States Coast Guard, but who are they to know?

the locals, however, think of it as the Suez Canal.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Shinnecock is a lock.

not according to the United States Coast Guard, but who are they to know?

How about the Coast Pilot? It certainly describes it as locks, though they are left
open during the southern set.

http://chartmaker.ncd.noaa.gov/nsd/c...-33ed-Ch10.pdf page 360

or, you could look at
http://www.boatli.org/locks.htm

the locals, however, think of it as the Suez Canal.

jeffie, phew ped stuck that he is, makes my point thusly:

"Jeff Morris"
Date: 10/15/2004 10:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Shinnecock is a lock.

not according to the United States Coast Guard, but who are they to know?

How about the Coast Pilot? It certainly describes it as locks, though they
are left
open during the southern set.

http://chartmaker.ncd.noaa.gov/nsd/c...-33ed-Ch10.pdf page 360

or, you could look at
http://www.boatli.org/locks.htm

the locals, however, think of it as the Suez Canal.

hoary, you like jeffies, have never seen the Shinnecock Canal, not even from
the highway. Everything you know nautical you learned from a pilfered Skipper
Bob's.

From: Harry Krause
Date: 10/18/2004 7:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

JAXAshby wrote:
not according the the United States Coast Guard or the United States Army
Corps
of Engineers.


Good grief, Jax-Ass, don't you have anything of consequence to do?

You've been raving about Shinnecock Inlet for years now. Move on to
another of your idiotic, endless ocmmentaries...


--
Okay...who has those damned WMDs?

JAXAshby wrote:
hoary, you like jeffies, have never seen the Shinnecock Canal, not even from
the highway. Everything you know nautical you learned from a pilfered Skipper
Bob's.

From: Harry Krause
Date: 10/18/2004 7:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

JAXAshby wrote:
not according the the United States Coast Guard or the United States Army
Corps
of Engineers.


Good grief, Jax-Ass, don't you have anything of consequence to do?

You've been raving about Shinnecock Inlet for years now. Move on to
another of your idiotic, endless ocmmentaries...


Stay on point, Jackass. Whether I've "seen" that inlet matters not. The
point is that you've been raving about Shinnecock Canal for years, and,
as usual, what you rave about doesn't rise above the level of almost
useless information. Your M.O. is to make some outrageous statement or
to split some hair and see how much you can mix it up. The end result
adds nothing to anyone's knowledge base.

- - -

Future historians will note that the demise of the United States of
America began during the reign of George W. Bush.

While jaxie "claims" the CG and Corps say there's no lock, where's what the latest
Coast Pilot says. It seems rather definitive to me. Since the Corps doesn't run
these locks, why would they have anything to say? And it should be easy to find a
reference to the locks or gates on the CG or Corps sites, but curiously, there is
nothing.

And besides, is there anyone in the world that would believe Jaxie over Skipper Bob?


http://chartmaker.ncd.noaa.gov/nsd/c...-33ed-Ch10.pdf
Chart 12352
10) Shinnecock Canal, 31.5 miles southwestward of
Montauk Point, is about 1 mile long and connects
Great Peconic Bay with Shinnecock Bay. The canal is
owned and maintained by Suffolk County of New York.
It is a partly dredged cut and is protected at the north
entrance by two jetties; the east jetty is marked by a
light. In April 1985, the east timber jetty was reported
to be deteriorating. Protruding timbers and floating
debris may be encountered; caution is advised. A lock
about midway in the canal is 250 feet long, 41 feet wide,
with a depth of 12 feet over the sills. Tide gates are par-
allel to and westward of the lock. The lock gates and
tide gates are constructed so that tidal action opens
them to allow the current to set south through the
canal and closes them to prevent water from
Shinnecock Bay to flow back into Great Peconic Bay.
The lock gates are tended 24 hours and are opened me-
chanically when the tidal current is flowing northward
to allow the passage of boats. Red and green traffic lights
are at each end of the lock. Vessels are allowed to
enter the lock only on the green signal.
11) The fixed bridges and overhead power cables across
the canal have a least clearance of 22 feet. Mast-step-
ping cranes are available at both ends of the canal.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
hoary, you like jeffies, have never seen the Shinnecock Canal, not even from
the highway. Everything you know nautical you learned from a pilfered Skipper
Bob's.

From: Harry Krause
Date: 10/18/2004 7:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

JAXAshby wrote:
not according the the United States Coast Guard or the United States Army
Corps
of Engineers.


Good grief, Jax-Ass, don't you have anything of consequence to do?

You've been raving about Shinnecock Inlet for years now. Move on to
another of your idiotic, endless ocmmentaries...


--
Okay...who has those damned WMDs?

Big point. If the Canal/lock is owned and maintained by the County, then the
Corp has no first hand interest, responsibility, or knowledge of said "lock".