Home |
Search |
Today's Posts |
|
#1
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]()
I don't suppose, hiccup, alcohol was factor.
It was not rough at all last night. http://www.n-jcenter.com/BreakingNews/area99.htm -- SJM |
#2
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]() "Scott McFadden" wrote in message om... I don't suppose, hiccup, alcohol was factor. It was not rough at all last night. http://www.n-jcenter.com/BreakingNews/area99.htm -- SJM The article says that Roberts said he was navigating by instruments. What makes you think is was alcohol and not an error, mistake, bad-navigation skills, or stupidity? |
#3
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]() Gary Warner wrote in message ... "Scott McFadden" wrote in message om... I don't suppose, hiccup, alcohol was factor. It was not rough at all last night. http://www.n-jcenter.com/BreakingNews/area99.htm -- SJM The article says that Roberts said he was navigating by instruments. What makes you think is was alcohol and not an error, mistake, bad-navigation skills, or stupidity? I was thinking the same thing. Having made the trip for the first time a couple of years ago (from MA to Jupiter, FL) in a 52 footer, I can well understand the potential for a mistake, particularly navigating an unfamiliar channel or inlet after dark. For those that don't do it on a regular basis, the trip is exciting and fun, but it can also be very challenging and, at times, stress-full. I wouldn't automatically assume the skipper was drinking. Eisboch |
#4
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]()
"Gary Warner" wrote in message ...
"Scott McFadden" wrote in message om... I don't suppose, hiccup, alcohol was factor. It was not rough at all last night. http://www.n-jcenter.com/BreakingNews/area99.htm The article says that Roberts said he was navigating by instruments. What makes you think is was alcohol and not an error, mistake, bad-navigation skills, or stupidity? Oh I guess the fact that being intoxicated leads to error, mistake, bad navigation skills and stupidity. FWIW, I have been through that inlet at least a hundred times in a little Whaler (among other boats) and never relied upon any "instruments", other than my eyes. I have never heard of anyone else using "instruments" to nav Ponce either. It is simply absurd. -- SJM |
#5
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]()
"Gary Warner" wrote
The article says that Roberts said he was navigating by instruments. What makes you think is was alcohol and not an error, mistake, bad-navigation skills, or stupidity? "Scott McFadden" wrote in message Oh I guess the fact that being intoxicated leads to error, mistake, bad navigation skills and stupidity. That's some specious reasoning there Scott. But since drinking leads to poor reasoning I guess you must be drunk? |
#6
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]()
Subject: Yet another brilliant boater at Ponce Inlet nearly gets KO'd.
From: WaIIy How many times for the *first* time at night in a 60 footer? Duh That sounds like his first mistake. Duh! Capt. Bill |
#7
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]()
"Gary Warner" wrote in message ...
But since drinking leads to poor reasoning I guess you must be drunk? More than a little. When I start ending sentences with question marks then you'll know I'm really getting hammered. Besides, what other excuse is there for someone in Fla to be posting to rec.boats and not out there doing it for real? -- SJM "I have been drunk now for over two weeks" "Passed out and I rallied and I sprung a few leaks" J. Buffet |
#9
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]()
How wide is the inlet he was trying to navigate? And, what's the margin of
error for GPS nowadays? "Scott McFadden" wrote in message m... I see in today's paper our now famous, front page, "captain" with "30 yrs experience" claimed he tried to nav Ponce (which he was totally unfamiliar with) at night, in a $1.4 million boat(insured) without a single fuctioning searchlight and against the advice of the marina he was trying to reach, with the assistance of his gps/chartplotter. With all my experience at Ponce that is not something I would look forward to, at all. Furthermore, he declined to call Seatow for an "guided escort" through the inlet. Sometimes "saving money" gets people into jams they never imagined were possible. -- SJM (Scott McFadden) wrote in message . com... "Gary Warner" wrote in message ... "Scott McFadden" wrote in message om... I don't suppose, hiccup, alcohol was factor. It was not rough at all last night. http://www.n-jcenter.com/BreakingNews/area99.htm The article says that Roberts said he was navigating by instruments. What makes you think is was alcohol and not an error, mistake, bad-navigation skills, or stupidity? Oh I guess the fact that being intoxicated leads to error, mistake, bad navigation skills and stupidity. FWIW, I have been through that inlet at least a hundred times in a little Whaler (among other boats) and never relied upon any "instruments", other than my eyes. I have never heard of anyone else using "instruments" to nav Ponce either. It is simply absurd. |
#10
![]() |
|||
|
|||
![]()
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
How wide is the inlet he was trying to navigate? Outbound, once I get a little ways east of the beach, I'll stay within 150' of the N jetty, paralleling it, until I clear the jetty tip. Then, I'll break immediately to the northeast. Reverse procedure for inbound. That inlet has baffled the CoE for so long it is really embarassing. They dredge and dredge, they built weirs, which they then decided to replace w/a big, long north jetty. $23mil later and still 9/10's of the south side is unusable (shoals, sandbars, rough, ect). The whole damn place gets wild as Hell w/a outgoing tide bucking a stiff onshore breeze. (However, this was not the situation the night Captain Crash's "voyage" prematurely ended) Now they're talking about a big, long south jetty. yawn I have suggested to the Corp that given their "track record", perhaps people should send in their suggestions, we'll put them all on a big dart board, blindfold some of the engineering staff and let'em throw the darts at it. The suggestion with the most "hits" is the way we go. Couldn't be any more ineffective. And, what's the margin of error for GPS nowadays? Ponce Inlet is not the place to be needing a GPS. Just ask it's most recent victim, "Captain" Roberts, formerly of the vessel "Baroness". -- SJM |