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Yet another brilliant boater at Ponce Inlet nearly gets KO'd.
I don't suppose, hiccup, alcohol was factor.
It was not rough at all last night. http://www.n-jcenter.com/BreakingNews/area99.htm -- SJM |
Yet another brilliant boater at Ponce Inlet nearly gets KO'd.
"Scott McFadden" wrote in message om... I don't suppose, hiccup, alcohol was factor. It was not rough at all last night. http://www.n-jcenter.com/BreakingNews/area99.htm -- SJM The article says that Roberts said he was navigating by instruments. What makes you think is was alcohol and not an error, mistake, bad-navigation skills, or stupidity? |
Yet another brilliant boater at Ponce Inlet nearly gets KO'd.
Gary Warner wrote in message ... "Scott McFadden" wrote in message om... I don't suppose, hiccup, alcohol was factor. It was not rough at all last night. http://www.n-jcenter.com/BreakingNews/area99.htm -- SJM The article says that Roberts said he was navigating by instruments. What makes you think is was alcohol and not an error, mistake, bad-navigation skills, or stupidity? I was thinking the same thing. Having made the trip for the first time a couple of years ago (from MA to Jupiter, FL) in a 52 footer, I can well understand the potential for a mistake, particularly navigating an unfamiliar channel or inlet after dark. For those that don't do it on a regular basis, the trip is exciting and fun, but it can also be very challenging and, at times, stress-full. I wouldn't automatically assume the skipper was drinking. Eisboch |
Yet another brilliant boater at Ponce Inlet nearly gets KO'd.
"Gary Warner" wrote in message ...
"Scott McFadden" wrote in message om... I don't suppose, hiccup, alcohol was factor. It was not rough at all last night. http://www.n-jcenter.com/BreakingNews/area99.htm The article says that Roberts said he was navigating by instruments. What makes you think is was alcohol and not an error, mistake, bad-navigation skills, or stupidity? Oh I guess the fact that being intoxicated leads to error, mistake, bad navigation skills and stupidity. FWIW, I have been through that inlet at least a hundred times in a little Whaler (among other boats) and never relied upon any "instruments", other than my eyes. I have never heard of anyone else using "instruments" to nav Ponce either. It is simply absurd. -- SJM |
Yet another brilliant boater at Ponce Inlet nearly gets KO'd.
"Gary Warner" wrote
The article says that Roberts said he was navigating by instruments. What makes you think is was alcohol and not an error, mistake, bad-navigation skills, or stupidity? "Scott McFadden" wrote in message Oh I guess the fact that being intoxicated leads to error, mistake, bad navigation skills and stupidity. That's some specious reasoning there Scott. But since drinking leads to poor reasoning I guess you must be drunk? |
Yet another brilliant boater at Ponce Inlet nearly gets KO'd.
Subject: Yet another brilliant boater at Ponce Inlet nearly gets KO'd.
From: WaIIy How many times for the *first* time at night in a 60 footer? Duh That sounds like his first mistake. Duh! Capt. Bill |
Yet another brilliant boater at Ponce Inlet nearly gets KO'd.
(Scott McFadden) wrote in message . com...
"Gary Warner" wrote in message ... "Scott McFadden" wrote in message om... I don't suppose, hiccup, alcohol was factor. It was not rough at all last night. http://www.n-jcenter.com/BreakingNews/area99.htm The article says that Roberts said he was navigating by instruments. What makes you think is was alcohol and not an error, mistake, bad-navigation skills, or stupidity? Oh I guess the fact that being intoxicated leads to error, mistake, bad navigation skills and stupidity. FWIW, I have been through that inlet at least a hundred times in a little Whaler (among other boats) and never relied upon any "instruments", other than my eyes. I have never heard of anyone else using "instruments" to nav Ponce either. It is simply absurd. I've done the trip back and forth from NY to Florida many times. It can wear on you when your running the boat all day, trying to get someplace, and you just push yourself one inlet too far. The key to a safe trip, planning and common sense. Enter and leave inlets that you don't know in the day light only. If it's been a long day, call it quits for the day, even if your behind schedule, pull in, fuel up, get a good nights sleep, and start out fresh in the morning. And most important, have others on board that cam run the boat. Remember, it's not a race. It's easy to make a stupid mistake if your rushing, tierd, or pushing too hard. |
Yet another brilliant boater at Ponce Inlet nearly gets KO'd.
How wide is the inlet he was trying to navigate? And, what's the margin of
error for GPS nowadays? "Scott McFadden" wrote in message m... I see in today's paper our now famous, front page, "captain" with "30 yrs experience" claimed he tried to nav Ponce (which he was totally unfamiliar with) at night, in a $1.4 million boat(insured) without a single fuctioning searchlight and against the advice of the marina he was trying to reach, with the assistance of his gps/chartplotter. With all my experience at Ponce that is not something I would look forward to, at all. Furthermore, he declined to call Seatow for an "guided escort" through the inlet. Sometimes "saving money" gets people into jams they never imagined were possible. -- SJM (Scott McFadden) wrote in message . com... "Gary Warner" wrote in message ... "Scott McFadden" wrote in message om... I don't suppose, hiccup, alcohol was factor. It was not rough at all last night. http://www.n-jcenter.com/BreakingNews/area99.htm The article says that Roberts said he was navigating by instruments. What makes you think is was alcohol and not an error, mistake, bad-navigation skills, or stupidity? Oh I guess the fact that being intoxicated leads to error, mistake, bad navigation skills and stupidity. FWIW, I have been through that inlet at least a hundred times in a little Whaler (among other boats) and never relied upon any "instruments", other than my eyes. I have never heard of anyone else using "instruments" to nav Ponce either. It is simply absurd. |
Yet another brilliant boater at Ponce Inlet nearly gets KO'd.
It's easy to make a stupid mistake if your
rushing, tierd, or pushing too hard I have a friend who runs offshore out of Big Carlos a couple times a week but one dark night he did come in a little too far to the south and firmly parked his boat on the tip of Lover's key. S#!!T still happens. Tip: line up the 96K-Rock tower between the Lover's key resort building and the bridge lights while you are offshore and you will be in the center of the channel when you get in the pass. |
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