hoary, you like jeffies, have never seen the Shinnecock Canal, not even from
the highway. Everything you know nautical you learned from a pilfered Skipper
Bob's.

From: Harry Krause
Date: 10/18/2004 7:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

JAXAshby wrote:
not according the the United States Coast Guard or the United States Army
Corps
of Engineers.


Good grief, Jax-Ass, don't you have anything of consequence to do?

You've been raving about Shinnecock Inlet for years now. Move on to
another of your idiotic, endless ocmmentaries...


--
Okay...who has those damned WMDs?

JAXAshby wrote:
hoary, you like jeffies, have never seen the Shinnecock Canal, not even from
the highway. Everything you know nautical you learned from a pilfered Skipper
Bob's.

From: Harry Krause
Date: 10/18/2004 7:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

JAXAshby wrote:
not according the the United States Coast Guard or the United States Army
Corps
of Engineers.


Good grief, Jax-Ass, don't you have anything of consequence to do?

You've been raving about Shinnecock Inlet for years now. Move on to
another of your idiotic, endless ocmmentaries...


Stay on point, Jackass. Whether I've "seen" that inlet matters not. The
point is that you've been raving about Shinnecock Canal for years, and,
as usual, what you rave about doesn't rise above the level of almost
useless information. Your M.O. is to make some outrageous statement or
to split some hair and see how much you can mix it up. The end result
adds nothing to anyone's knowledge base.

- - -

Future historians will note that the demise of the United States of
America began during the reign of George W. Bush.

While jaxie "claims" the CG and Corps say there's no lock, where's what the latest
Coast Pilot says. It seems rather definitive to me. Since the Corps doesn't run
these locks, why would they have anything to say? And it should be easy to find a
reference to the locks or gates on the CG or Corps sites, but curiously, there is
nothing.

And besides, is there anyone in the world that would believe Jaxie over Skipper Bob?


http://chartmaker.ncd.noaa.gov/nsd/c...-33ed-Ch10.pdf
Chart 12352
10) Shinnecock Canal, 31.5 miles southwestward of
Montauk Point, is about 1 mile long and connects
Great Peconic Bay with Shinnecock Bay. The canal is
owned and maintained by Suffolk County of New York.
It is a partly dredged cut and is protected at the north
entrance by two jetties; the east jetty is marked by a
light. In April 1985, the east timber jetty was reported
to be deteriorating. Protruding timbers and floating
debris may be encountered; caution is advised. A lock
about midway in the canal is 250 feet long, 41 feet wide,
with a depth of 12 feet over the sills. Tide gates are par-
allel to and westward of the lock. The lock gates and
tide gates are constructed so that tidal action opens
them to allow the current to set south through the
canal and closes them to prevent water from
Shinnecock Bay to flow back into Great Peconic Bay.
The lock gates are tended 24 hours and are opened me-
chanically when the tidal current is flowing northward
to allow the passage of boats. Red and green traffic lights
are at each end of the lock. Vessels are allowed to
enter the lock only on the green signal.
11) The fixed bridges and overhead power cables across
the canal have a least clearance of 22 feet. Mast-step-
ping cranes are available at both ends of the canal.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
hoary, you like jeffies, have never seen the Shinnecock Canal, not even from
the highway. Everything you know nautical you learned from a pilfered Skipper
Bob's.

From: Harry Krause
Date: 10/18/2004 7:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

JAXAshby wrote:
not according the the United States Coast Guard or the United States Army
Corps
of Engineers.


Good grief, Jax-Ass, don't you have anything of consequence to do?

You've been raving about Shinnecock Inlet for years now. Move on to
another of your idiotic, endless ocmmentaries...


--
Okay...who has those damned WMDs?

Big point. If the Canal/lock is owned and maintained by the County, then the
Corp has no first hand interest, responsibility, or knowledge of said "lock".

Big point. If the Canal/lock is owned and maintained by the County, then the
Corp (sic) has no first hand interest, responsibility, or knowledge of said
"lock".


Corps, as well as the CG, makes specific mention of the canal, and specifically
states there is a "gate" there but not a lock.

maybe the Corps and the CG each believe a lock is used to move a boat from a
body of water at one level to a body of water at another, while a gate is used
to stop water flowing in one direction or the other.

but what do they know?

Subject: Shinnecock Inlet
From: (JAXAshby)
Date: 10/18/2004 18:50 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

Big point. If the Canal/lock is owned and maintained by the County, then the
Corp (sic) has no first hand interest, responsibility, or knowledge of said
"lock".


Corps, as well as the CG, makes specific mention of the canal, and
specifically
states there is a "gate" there but not a lock.

maybe the Corps and the CG each believe a lock is used to move a boat from a
body of water at one level to a body of water at another, while a gate is
used
to stop water flowing in one direction or the other.

but what do they know?


Doodles, some bad news for you..... What the Corps or USCG think or say, is NOT
"the word according to God".
If they don't consider it a "lock" ..... whoopdeedoo. There opinion is about as
important or valid..... as yours (and we know that ain't worth cowpies).
In all the arguments, I see you've never considered NOAA .... is that because
you think the USCG is the one who makes the charts and Coast pilot, or is that
because they sprecht differently?
In truth, amateur mariner dumb butt, if someone wishes to call it a lock, then
waddahey .... itsa lock.

You really do need to return to the home for some "meds adjustment"

Shen

right, yo-yo. whatever was either -- let alone both -- the Coast Guard or the
Army Corps of Engineers thinking? obviously you need to inform each and both
that they are to never again make any statements without first getting your
express permission.

From: (Shen44)
Date: 10/18/2004 10:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

Subject: Shinnecock Inlet
From: (JAXAshby)
Date: 10/18/2004 18:50 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

Big point. If the Canal/lock is owned and maintained by the County, then
the
Corp (sic) has no first hand interest, responsibility, or knowledge of said
"lock".


Corps, as well as the CG, makes specific mention of the canal, and
specifically
states there is a "gate" there but not a lock.

maybe the Corps and the CG each believe a lock is used to move a boat from a
body of water at one level to a body of water at another, while a gate is
used
to stop water flowing in one direction or the other.

but what do they know?


Doodles, some bad news for you..... What the Corps or USCG think or say, is
NOT
"the word according to God".
If they don't consider it a "lock" ..... whoopdeedoo. There opinion is about
as
important or valid..... as yours (and we know that ain't worth cowpies).
In all the arguments, I see you've never considered NOAA .... is that because
you think the USCG is the one who makes the charts and Coast pilot, or is
that
because they sprecht differently?
In truth, amateur mariner dumb butt, if someone wishes to call it a lock,
then
waddahey .... itsa lock.

You really do need to return to the home for some "meds adjustment"

Shen

Subject: Shinnecock Inlet
From: (JAXAshby)

right, yo-yo. whatever was either -- let alone both -- the Coast Guard or
the
Army Corps of Engineers thinking? obviously you need to inform each and
both
that they are to never again make any statements without first getting your
express permission.

Now Doodles, if "you" wish to believe that the CG or Corp is the final "word"
in all things waterborne, please feel free to do so.
All you have to do, is realize that not all of us are so limited in our
thinking, as yourself.

Shen