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Doug s/v Callista "Marco A. Garcia" wrote in message ... Since you are talking about it.... The stuff provides one of the best antiskid surfaces I have seen, although I don't know how durable it would be. That's always a question. I met someone that had a very agressive non-skid on a boat he just bought (old boat). Years of use had caused the grit to grind into the deck thus breaking the bond. Areas of the paint (non-skid) were peeling up like sandpaper. It is supposed to be a transparent coat, but the grid of the mix does have a slightly grey/brownish color. Well, that rules it out for me. My problem is that I cannot figure out how to put this paint on my decks (already painted with white 2 pack polyurethane) and get a nice decent finish. They recommend using a foam roller, but this method leaves strakes of the grid all over the place. It just looks like sh.t. Rolling without streaks is an art but is possible. YOu might try tipping it with a brush. We also tried brushing it, thinning it to the max, etc. no look. Brushing would seem to be tricky. I did not try spraying, but I suspect it would make no difference. I don't think you can spray anything with such an agressive grit. Does anyone have recommendations on how to apply this non-skid coat on white deck surface? I have friends that trowled on a non-skid. regards, Marco PS: I'm out of the states. I order the paint directly from the producers in france. "Jonathan" wrote in message ... The all time toughest non-skid product I have seen (in 30 years of sailing) is called "Nautix-Grip" and Bruce Schwab has coated the decks of Ocean Planet with it preparatory to the Vendee Globe. Thank you for your interest in our product. You can contact our importer in USA AEROTECH- Marty & Steve AEROTECH 3109 S Ridgewood Avenue 32119 South Daytona FLORIDA USA Téléphone : 1-3867609926 Télécopie : 1-3867609923 Best regards. Note: 1 gallon = 3.78 litres Coverage Nautix grip: 8m² per kilo Matthieu Taburet New Web site!!! www.nautix.com NAUTIX ZI des cinq chemins - 56520 GUIDEL - France Tel : +33.2.97.65.32.69 - Fax: +33.2.97.65.03.54 - Mob: +33.6.15.42.36.59 Doug Dotson wrote: I'm getting close rolling on some nonskid product thus ending my life with the evil wood deck menace I was am planning on using Interdeck but have been told that is is not very agressive. A suggestion was to add an Awlgrip product that is glass beads to give it more grip. Any advice? Doug s/v Callista -- I am building a Dudley Dix, Argie 10, for my daughter. Check it out: http://home.comcast.net/~jonsailr |
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"Jonathan" wrote in message ... Yes, you can, through the guys in Florida, I think. Well worth it, too, if you want to stay on deck. I doubt if this is the only product that will keep me on deck Go to wipe up a paint spill on this stuff with a cloth rag and the rag shreds. Sounds like a poor attribute to me. My dog and cat may not like their feet turned to meatloaf. Come to think of it, my feet are pretty important to me as well. I'll ask Bruce where he ultimately bought it, but I think it was through the info below. Don't bother. Doesn't sound like a product that I would be happy with. Jonathan Doug Dotson wrote: Doesn't look like I can get it in the US. Doug s/v Callista "Jonathan" wrote in message ... The all time toughest non-skid product I have seen (in 30 years of sailing) is called "Nautix-Grip" and Bruce Schwab has coated the decks of Ocean Planet with it preparatory to the Vendee Globe. Thank you for your interest in our product. You can contact our importer in USA AEROTECH- Marty & Steve AEROTECH 3109 S Ridgewood Avenue 32119 South Daytona FLORIDA USA Téléphone : 1-3867609926 Télécopie : 1-3867609923 Best regards. Note: 1 gallon = 3.78 litres Coverage Nautix grip: 8m² per kilo Matthieu Taburet New Web site!!! www.nautix.com NAUTIX ZI des cinq chemins - 56520 GUIDEL - France Tel : +33.2.97.65.32.69 - Fax: +33.2.97.65.03.54 - Mob: +33.6.15.42.36.59 Doug Dotson wrote: I'm getting close rolling on some nonskid product thus ending my life with the evil wood deck menace I was am planning on using Interdeck but have been told that is is not very agressive. A suggestion was to add an Awlgrip product that is glass beads to give it more grip. Any advice? Doug s/v Callista -- I am building a Dudley Dix, Argie 10, for my daughter. Check it out: http://home.comcast.net/~jonsailr -- I am building a Dudley Dix, Argie 10, for my daughter. Check it out: http://home.comcast.net/~jonsailr |
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I don't think a Latex paint is recommend for this application. This
particular product got some pretty poor reviews. I can;t imagine that someone recommended to mix it with a marine paint. I assume that a polyurethane paint would never mix well with a Latex paint. Looking at the ads for Skid-No-More in the WM catalog, it doesn't look like it is made for boat decks. Doug s/v Callista "Matt" wrote in message ... Several years ago I did my deck I wanted to use a rubber paint called Decolay, which is either made or imported by a firm in Florida. This product supposedly dries as a rubber like membrane that both seals the deck and provides a tough non skid surface, and is available in several colours. Unfortunately I could not find it available in Southern Ontario. I ended up using a product called Skid-No-More, a latex safety paint that contains rubber chips. It is available in a few limited colors, the whitest being a medium grey. It can be some what lightened with pigment, with the emphasis on somewhat. It is a very thick paint that almost has to be troweled on. The end result was : - I ended up with a deck that is very comfortable with anytype of shoe or bare feet, the deck does not get that hot - wet or dry the deck is non skid - the colour was a marbled gray, which camaflauges bird crap. If appearances are not everything, I have had people who have been night sailing with me before they saw the deck comment that the deck even wet was great. I did talk with the manufacturer and was told that I could mix the paint with a quality white marine enamel, but I ended up with a goopy mess that did not adhere so I scrapred it off (my test section was a cockpit floor hatch) I have previosly used silica sand sprinkled over wet paint, and while does provide a functional non skid surface, and looks good, however it was not comfortable underfoot and feels 'gritty' I did use Skid-no-more on a test board and I did get a consistent colour and texture, but I do not want a medium grey deck. However, appearances do mean a lot, and I too am looking to repaint my deck. Matt "Doug Dotson" wrote in message news I'm getting close rolling on some nonskid product thus ending my life with the evil wood deck menace I was am planning on using Interdeck but have been told that is is not very agressive. A suggestion was to add an Awlgrip product that is glass beads to give it more grip. Any advice? Doug s/v Callista |
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On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 18:36:29 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
wrote: I don't think a Latex paint is recommend for this application. This particular product got some pretty poor reviews. I can;t imagine that someone recommended to mix it with a marine paint. I assume that a polyurethane paint would never mix well with a Latex paint. Looking at the ads for Skid-No-More in the WM catalog, it doesn't look like it is made for boat decks. Doug s/v Callista I thought someone else would suggest it. There are two well known things to add to a good deck paint. One is cork. Take a saw and save the sawdust from sawing cork. Sift out the fine stuff. The larger "cork sawdust" will give a good non-skid in a good topsides paint. The other is regular sand or silica sand. Sift it to remove the fine dust and the oversized sand. You can have a very aggressive non-skid or a regular non-skid. It depends upon how much and what size you use. If your non-skid is too aggressive, add another coat of paint and it will be less aggressive. Simple, good, inexpensive.... |
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It has weathered well for 2 years and adheres well.
Excluding appearances, the functionality is great. To fix the appearance, I contacted the manufacturer ... The concept of mixing it with marine paint (Interlux enamel #1 white) was the recommendation of the Skid-no-more's factory. The paint did not adhere, and was just a goopy mess, so I scraped it off and threw it out. I hope my experience with it came across as - it may work, but, it lives in the 'not recommended' category. There are a number of marine sites that suggest it for decks - that may be how I got the idea to use it. Live and learn. "Doug Dotson" wrote in message ... I don't think a Latex paint is recommend for this application. This particular product got some pretty poor reviews. I can;t imagine that someone recommended to mix it with a marine paint. I assume that a polyurethane paint would never mix well with a Latex paint. Looking at the ads for Skid-No-More in the WM catalog, it doesn't look like it is made for boat decks. Doug s/v Callista "Matt" wrote in message ... Several years ago I did my deck I wanted to use a rubber paint called Decolay, which is either made or imported by a firm in Florida. This product supposedly dries as a rubber like membrane that both seals the deck and provides a tough non skid surface, and is available in several colours. Unfortunately I could not find it available in Southern Ontario. I ended up using a product called Skid-No-More, a latex safety paint that contains rubber chips. It is available in a few limited colors, the whitest being a medium grey. It can be some what lightened with pigment, with the emphasis on somewhat. It is a very thick paint that almost has to be troweled on. The end result was : - I ended up with a deck that is very comfortable with anytype of shoe or bare feet, the deck does not get that hot - wet or dry the deck is non skid - the colour was a marbled gray, which camaflauges bird crap. If appearances are not everything, I have had people who have been night sailing with me before they saw the deck comment that the deck even wet was great. I did talk with the manufacturer and was told that I could mix the paint with a quality white marine enamel, but I ended up with a goopy mess that did not adhere so I scrapred it off (my test section was a cockpit floor hatch) I have previosly used silica sand sprinkled over wet paint, and while does provide a functional non skid surface, and looks good, however it was not comfortable underfoot and feels 'gritty' I did use Skid-no-more on a test board and I did get a consistent colour and texture, but I do not want a medium grey deck. However, appearances do mean a lot, and I too am looking to repaint my deck. Matt "Doug Dotson" wrote in message news I'm getting close rolling on some nonskid product thus ending my life with the evil wood deck menace I was am planning on using Interdeck but have been told that is is not very agressive. A suggestion was to add an Awlgrip product that is glass beads to give it more grip. Any advice? Doug s/v Callista |
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And the sand or silica is what grinds into the substrate like
sandpaper and causes the whole lot to shed off after a few years. Doug s/v Callista "Skipper" wrote in message ... On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 18:36:29 -0400, "Doug Dotson" wrote: I don't think a Latex paint is recommend for this application. This particular product got some pretty poor reviews. I can;t imagine that someone recommended to mix it with a marine paint. I assume that a polyurethane paint would never mix well with a Latex paint. Looking at the ads for Skid-No-More in the WM catalog, it doesn't look like it is made for boat decks. Doug s/v Callista I thought someone else would suggest it. There are two well known things to add to a good deck paint. One is cork. Take a saw and save the sawdust from sawing cork. Sift out the fine stuff. The larger "cork sawdust" will give a good non-skid in a good topsides paint. The other is regular sand or silica sand. Sift it to remove the fine dust and the oversized sand. You can have a very aggressive non-skid or a regular non-skid. It depends upon how much and what size you use. If your non-skid is too aggressive, add another coat of paint and it will be less aggressive. Simple, good, inexpensive.... |
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Check out a product called Durabak which is made specifically for
decks. Their website is www.nonslipcoating.com No connection with the company or personal experience with the product yet. But their marketing has me mostly convinced. Lee Huddleston s/v Truelove |
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I am 98% sure they sprayed it on Ocean Planet, and got good, even
distribution of the particulate matter. The hull and deck color are the same off white this time around and I didn't see any noticeable difference in tint between the non-skid areas and the rest of the paint job. In applying any non-skid, keeping it stirred up enough to keep the particulate matter in suspension for even distribution is key, and a hassle. The sense of security the stuff provides on a wet deck set a new benchmark in my experience. We used to use ground pumice, but the Nautix Grip made that feel like baby wipes. Oddly enough it didn't feel "bad" on bare feet, but you didn't want to drag your feet or fall on it. You simply do not slide at all, which is, of course, the point. Jonathan Marco A. Garcia wrote: Since you are talking about it.... The stuff provides one of the best antiskid surfaces I have seen, although I don't know how durable it would be. It is supposed to be a transparent coat, but the grid of the mix does have a slightly grey/brownish color. My problem is that I cannot figure out how to put this paint on my decks (already painted with white 2 pack polyurethane) and get a nice decent finish. They recommend using a foam roller, but this method leaves strakes of the grid all over the place. It just looks like sh.t. We also tried brushing it, thinning it to the max, etc. no look. I did not try spraying, but I suspect it would make no difference. Does anyone have recommendations on how to apply this non-skid coat on white deck surface? regards, Marco PS: I'm out of the states. I order the paint directly from the producers in france. "Jonathan" wrote in message ... The all time toughest non-skid product I have seen (in 30 years of sailing) is called "Nautix-Grip" and Bruce Schwab has coated the decks of Ocean Planet with it preparatory to the Vendee Globe. Thank you for your interest in our product. You can contact our importer in USA AEROTECH- Marty & Steve AEROTECH 3109 S Ridgewood Avenue 32119 South Daytona FLORIDA USA Téléphone : 1-3867609926 Télécopie : 1-3867609923 Best regards. Note: 1 gallon = 3.78 litres Coverage Nautix grip: 8m² per kilo Matthieu Taburet New Web site!!! www.nautix.com NAUTIX ZI des cinq chemins - 56520 GUIDEL - France Tel : +33.2.97.65.32.69 - Fax: +33.2.97.65.03.54 - Mob: +33.6.15.42.36.59 Doug Dotson wrote: I'm getting close rolling on some nonskid product thus ending my life with the evil wood deck menace I was am planning on using Interdeck but have been told that is is not very agressive. A suggestion was to add an Awlgrip product that is glass beads to give it more grip. Any advice? Doug s/v Callista -- I am building a Dudley Dix, Argie 10, for my daughter. Check it out: http://home.comcast.net/~jonsailr -- I am building a Dudley Dix, Argie 10, for my daughter. Check it out: http://home.comcast.net/~jonsailr |
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Comments below.
Doug s/v Callista "Jonathan" wrote in message ... I am 98% sure they sprayed it on Ocean Planet, and got good, even distribution of the particulate matter. Interesting. I'll have to bounce that off my friends that work here in the marina. The hull and deck color are the same off white this time around and I didn't see any noticeable difference in tint between the non-skid areas and the rest of the paint job. That is what I am after, but I'm doing everything in white. In applying any non-skid, keeping it stirred up enough to keep the particulate matter in suspension for even distribution is key, and a hassle. I wonder how they keep it mixed when using a sprayer? I guess they could shake it unless they are using a pressure pot. The sense of security the stuff provides on a wet deck set a new benchmark in my experience. We used to use ground pumice, but the Nautix Grip made that feel like baby wipes. I'm more worried about my knees and things like my foulies. Oddly enough it didn't feel "bad" on bare feet, but you didn't want to drag your feet or fall on it. You simply do not slide at all, which is, of course, the point. I don;t think we have established where to get it yey. SOunds like a good product. Jonathan Marco A. Garcia wrote: Since you are talking about it.... The stuff provides one of the best antiskid surfaces I have seen, although I don't know how durable it would be. It is supposed to be a transparent coat, but the grid of the mix does have a slightly grey/brownish color. My problem is that I cannot figure out how to put this paint on my decks (already painted with white 2 pack polyurethane) and get a nice decent finish. They recommend using a foam roller, but this method leaves strakes of the grid all over the place. It just looks like sh.t. We also tried brushing it, thinning it to the max, etc. no look. I did not try spraying, but I suspect it would make no difference. Does anyone have recommendations on how to apply this non-skid coat on white deck surface? regards, Marco PS: I'm out of the states. I order the paint directly from the producers in france. "Jonathan" wrote in message ... The all time toughest non-skid product I have seen (in 30 years of sailing) is called "Nautix-Grip" and Bruce Schwab has coated the decks of Ocean Planet with it preparatory to the Vendee Globe. Thank you for your interest in our product. You can contact our importer in USA AEROTECH- Marty & Steve AEROTECH 3109 S Ridgewood Avenue 32119 South Daytona FLORIDA USA Téléphone : 1-3867609926 Télécopie : 1-3867609923 Best regards. Note: 1 gallon = 3.78 litres Coverage Nautix grip: 8m² per kilo Matthieu Taburet New Web site!!! www.nautix.com NAUTIX ZI des cinq chemins - 56520 GUIDEL - France Tel : +33.2.97.65.32.69 - Fax: +33.2.97.65.03.54 - Mob: +33.6.15.42.36.59 Doug Dotson wrote: I'm getting close rolling on some nonskid product thus ending my life with the evil wood deck menace I was am planning on using Interdeck but have been told that is is not very agressive. A suggestion was to add an Awlgrip product that is glass beads to give it more grip. Any advice? Doug s/v Callista -- I am building a Dudley Dix, Argie 10, for my daughter. Check it out: http://home.comcast.net/~jonsailr -- I am building a Dudley Dix, Argie 10, for my daughter. Check it out: http://home.comcast.net/~jonsailr |
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Doug Dotson wrote:
Comments below. Doug s/v Callista "Jonathan" wrote in message ... I am 98% sure they sprayed it on Ocean Planet, and got good, even distribution of the particulate matter. ....snip.... The sense of security the stuff provides on a wet deck set a new benchmark in my experience. We used to use ground pumice, but the Nautix Grip made that feel like baby wipes. I'm more worried about my knees and things like my foulies. Then it is probably not for you. I dove under the lifelines one time to get onboard (OP at dock needs steps to get up onto) and wound up with pronounced "road rash" on my arm. But, having once experienced losing my footing, sliding to leeward, and staying onboard *only* because my lifeline tether was hooked up, I *really, really,* like the idea of superior traction. Walking on it, no problem. Kneeling on it, no problem. Dragging along it...maybe not so good Oddly enough it didn't feel "bad" on bare feet, but you didn't want to drag your feet or fall on it. You simply do not slide at all, which is, of course, the point. I don;t think we have established where to get it yey. SOunds like a good product. in USA, buy it at: AEROTECH- Marty & Steve AEROTECH 3109 S Ridgewood Avenue 32119 South Daytona FLORIDA USA Phone : 1-386-760-9926 Fax : 1-386-760-9923 Jonathan -- I am building a Dudley Dix, Argie 10, for my daughter. Check it out: http://home.comcast.net/~jonsailr |
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