Yes, just once I'd like to see a news article or a video or two
about a sailor who didn't look and act like some mentally
deficient vagrant and who didn't sail some equally decrepit-
looking boat that sailors and even lubbers look at and sneer
at.

Why is it that sailors are always portrayed as losers and
outcasts? Why is it that cruising is reported on in such a
way that it generally reflects badly upon those of us who
do things in a seamanlike manner and have vessels that
are well-found and Bristol Fashion?

Instead, what one sees is a parade of hapless individuals,
one after another, about which the general public concludes
they're sailing because they're some kind of nut job and bum
who can't possible hold down a job so he's off to sea in the
most irresponsible of manners, looking, for all the world,
like a floating railroad vagrant.

And, why is it that so-called sailors swoon over such dregs?
What happened to their mental picture of sailors who do it
competently, safely, seamanlike and professionally? Why
is it they identify with and promote eccentric ne'er-do-wells
which, if seen ashore, would be holding out a tin cup?

Just why do so-called sailors act so proud to say they have
met and talked to such beggar-like individuals. Is their own
self-esteem so low that they actually look up to and admire
floating vagrants aboard bum boats?

Think about it, Bruce.

--
Sir Gregory

On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 15:07:40 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote:

Yes, just once I'd like to see a news article or a video or two
about a sailor who didn't look and act like some mentally
deficient vagrant and who didn't sail some equally decrepit-
looking boat that sailors and even lubbers look at and sneer
at.

Why is it that sailors are always portrayed as losers and
outcasts? Why is it that cruising is reported on in such a
way that it generally reflects badly upon those of us who
do things in a seamanlike manner and have vessels that
are well-found and Bristol Fashion?

Instead, what one sees is a parade of hapless individuals,
one after another, about which the general public concludes
they're sailing because they're some kind of nut job and bum
who can't possible hold down a job so he's off to sea in the
most irresponsible of manners, looking, for all the world,
like a floating railroad vagrant.

And, why is it that so-called sailors swoon over such dregs?
What happened to their mental picture of sailors who do it
competently, safely, seamanlike and professionally? Why
is it they identify with and promote eccentric ne'er-do-wells
which, if seen ashore, would be holding out a tin cup?

Just why do so-called sailors act so proud to say they have
met and talked to such beggar-like individuals. Is their own
self-esteem so low that they actually look up to and admire
floating vagrants aboard bum boats?

Think about it, Bruce.

You simply reinforce what everyone already knows - that you really
know nothing about cruising.

Ever done a cruise? Say a 3,000 mile open ocean trip from the
Galapagos to Nuku Hiva? Do you somehow believe that one can spend
several years sailing across oceans on a very small budget and have
the boat and crew look as clean and neat as it did in the dealer's
showroom?
--
Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok

"Bruce in bangkok" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 15:07:40 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote:

Yes, just once I'd like to see a news article or a video or two
about a sailor who didn't look and act like some mentally
deficient vagrant and who didn't sail some equally decrepit-
looking boat that sailors and even lubbers look at and sneer
at.

Why is it that sailors are always portrayed as losers and
outcasts? Why is it that cruising is reported on in such a
way that it generally reflects badly upon those of us who
do things in a seamanlike manner and have vessels that
are well-found and Bristol Fashion?

Instead, what one sees is a parade of hapless individuals,
one after another, about which the general public concludes
they're sailing because they're some kind of nut job and bum
who can't possible hold down a job so he's off to sea in the
most irresponsible of manners, looking, for all the world,
like a floating railroad vagrant.

And, why is it that so-called sailors swoon over such dregs?
What happened to their mental picture of sailors who do it
competently, safely, seamanlike and professionally? Why
is it they identify with and promote eccentric ne'er-do-wells
which, if seen ashore, would be holding out a tin cup?

Just why do so-called sailors act so proud to say they have
met and talked to such beggar-like individuals. Is their own
self-esteem so low that they actually look up to and admire
floating vagrants aboard bum boats?

Think about it, Bruce.

You simply reinforce what everyone already knows - that you really
know nothing about cruising.

Ever done a cruise? Say a 3,000 mile open ocean trip from the
Galapagos to Nuku Hiva? Do you somehow believe that one can spend
several years sailing across oceans on a very small budget and have
the boat and crew look as clean and neat as it did in the dealer's
showroom?

Yes, I do. It's a matter of pride and accomplishment. One is easily
able to do routine upkeep along the way. Sailing a bum boat is
inexcusable, IMO, because it demonstrates a slovenly outlook
on cruising and on sailing as a way of life. Does stop brushing
one's teeth and bathing when one is cruising? I think not. So
why should one sail a decrepit looking bum boat? Would you
want people thinking, as you sailed into port, "Geez, there goes
the neighborhood"?

--
Sir Gregory


--
Sir Gregory

On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 09:18:26 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote:

"Bruce in bangkok" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 15:07:40 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote:

Yes, just once I'd like to see a news article or a video or two
about a sailor who didn't look and act like some mentally
deficient vagrant and who didn't sail some equally decrepit-
looking boat that sailors and even lubbers look at and sneer
at.

Why is it that sailors are always portrayed as losers and
outcasts? Why is it that cruising is reported on in such a
way that it generally reflects badly upon those of us who
do things in a seamanlike manner and have vessels that
are well-found and Bristol Fashion?

Instead, what one sees is a parade of hapless individuals,
one after another, about which the general public concludes
they're sailing because they're some kind of nut job and bum
who can't possible hold down a job so he's off to sea in the
most irresponsible of manners, looking, for all the world,
like a floating railroad vagrant.

And, why is it that so-called sailors swoon over such dregs?
What happened to their mental picture of sailors who do it
competently, safely, seamanlike and professionally? Why
is it they identify with and promote eccentric ne'er-do-wells
which, if seen ashore, would be holding out a tin cup?

Just why do so-called sailors act so proud to say they have
met and talked to such beggar-like individuals. Is their own
self-esteem so low that they actually look up to and admire
floating vagrants aboard bum boats?

Think about it, Bruce.

You simply reinforce what everyone already knows - that you really
know nothing about cruising.

Ever done a cruise? Say a 3,000 mile open ocean trip from the
Galapagos to Nuku Hiva? Do you somehow believe that one can spend
several years sailing across oceans on a very small budget and have
the boat and crew look as clean and neat as it did in the dealer's
showroom?

Yes, I do. It's a matter of pride and accomplishment. One is easily
able to do routine upkeep along the way. Sailing a bum boat is
inexcusable, IMO, because it demonstrates a slovenly outlook
on cruising and on sailing as a way of life. Does stop brushing
one's teeth and bathing when one is cruising? I think not. So
why should one sail a decrepit looking bum boat? Would you
want people thinking, as you sailed into port, "Geez, there goes
the neighborhood"?

--
Sir Gregory

As I and you other readers have said, "You know nothing of what you
speak".
--
Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok

"Bruce in bangkok" wrote in
message ...
" Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·" wrote...
"Bruce in bangkok" wrote ...
" Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· wrote...

Yes, just once I'd like to see a news article or a video or two
about a sailor who didn't look and act like some mentally
deficient vagrant and who didn't sail some equally decrepit-
looking boat that sailors and even lubbers look at and sneer
at.

Why is it that sailors are always portrayed as losers and
outcasts? Why is it that cruising is reported on in such a
way that it generally reflects badly upon those of us who
do things in a seamanlike manner and have vessels that
are well-found and Bristol Fashion?

Instead, what one sees is a parade of hapless individuals,
one after another, about which the general public concludes
they're sailing because they're some kind of nut job and bum
who can't possible hold down a job so he's off to sea in the
most irresponsible of manners, looking, for all the world,
like a floating railroad vagrant.

And, why is it that so-called sailors swoon over such dregs?
What happened to their mental picture of sailors who do it
competently, safely, seamanlike and professionally? Why
is it they identify with and promote eccentric ne'er-do-wells
which, if seen ashore, would be holding out a tin cup?

Just why do so-called sailors act so proud to say they have
met and talked to such beggar-like individuals. Is their own
self-esteem so low that they actually look up to and admire
floating vagrants aboard bum boats?

Think about it, Bruce.

You simply reinforce what everyone already knows - that you really
know nothing about cruising.

Ever done a cruise? Say a 3,000 mile open ocean trip from the
Galapagos to Nuku Hiva? Do you somehow believe that one can spend
several years sailing across oceans on a very small budget and have
the boat and crew look as clean and neat as it did in the dealer's
showroom?

Yes, I do. It's a matter of pride and accomplishment. One is easily
able to do routine upkeep along the way. Sailing a bum boat is
inexcusable, IMO, because it demonstrates a slovenly outlook
on cruising and on sailing as a way of life. Does stop brushing
one's teeth and bathing when one is cruising? I think not. So
why should one sail a decrepit looking bum boat? Would you
want people thinking, as you sailed into port, "Geez, there goes
the neighborhood"?

As I and you other readers have said, "You know nothing of what
you speak".

Feast your eyes on a well-maintained blue water sailing yacht, Bruce.

http://captainneal.wordpress.com/

The heading photo is old. The one's below reflect the current
appearance. Notice how she shines. I can't abide the typical,
dull, oxidized topsides with just about every old boat is plagued
with.

How about a current photo or two you YOUR boat, Bruce?

--
Sir Gregory

On 9/24/2013 11:13 AM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· wrote:
..

Feast your eyes on a well-maintained blue water sailing yacht, Bruce.

http://captainneal.wordpress.com/

The heading photo is old. The one's below reflect the current
appearance. Notice how she shines. I can't abide the typical,
dull, oxidized topsides with just about every old boat is plagued
with.

How about a current photo or two you YOUR boat, Bruce?


1. I see no dink.

2. I see a laptop connected with Ethernet which is a neat trick anchored
out as you demand that Mr. Beard do. If you are going to cover this by
saying the dink is on the port side, then I hope you have your fenders out.

3. I see a 120 v fan going full blast. Another neat trick at anchor.

4. No real seaman would have rugs below decks due to the obvious issue
of dampness.

5. Fuchsia cushions?

6. Do I need go on?

On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 13:13:09 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote:

"Bruce in bangkok" wrote in
message ...
" Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·" wrote...
"Bruce in bangkok" wrote ...
" Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· wrote...

Yes, just once I'd like to see a news article or a video or two
about a sailor who didn't look and act like some mentally
deficient vagrant and who didn't sail some equally decrepit-
looking boat that sailors and even lubbers look at and sneer
at.

Why is it that sailors are always portrayed as losers and
outcasts? Why is it that cruising is reported on in such a
way that it generally reflects badly upon those of us who
do things in a seamanlike manner and have vessels that
are well-found and Bristol Fashion?

Instead, what one sees is a parade of hapless individuals,
one after another, about which the general public concludes
they're sailing because they're some kind of nut job and bum
who can't possible hold down a job so he's off to sea in the
most irresponsible of manners, looking, for all the world,
like a floating railroad vagrant.

And, why is it that so-called sailors swoon over such dregs?
What happened to their mental picture of sailors who do it
competently, safely, seamanlike and professionally? Why
is it they identify with and promote eccentric ne'er-do-wells
which, if seen ashore, would be holding out a tin cup?

Just why do so-called sailors act so proud to say they have
met and talked to such beggar-like individuals. Is their own
self-esteem so low that they actually look up to and admire
floating vagrants aboard bum boats?

Think about it, Bruce.

You simply reinforce what everyone already knows - that you really
know nothing about cruising.

Ever done a cruise? Say a 3,000 mile open ocean trip from the
Galapagos to Nuku Hiva? Do you somehow believe that one can spend
several years sailing across oceans on a very small budget and have
the boat and crew look as clean and neat as it did in the dealer's
showroom?

Yes, I do. It's a matter of pride and accomplishment. One is easily
able to do routine upkeep along the way. Sailing a bum boat is
inexcusable, IMO, because it demonstrates a slovenly outlook
on cruising and on sailing as a way of life. Does stop brushing
one's teeth and bathing when one is cruising? I think not. So
why should one sail a decrepit looking bum boat? Would you
want people thinking, as you sailed into port, "Geez, there goes
the neighborhood"?

As I and you other readers have said, "You know nothing of what
you speak".

Feast your eyes on a well-maintained blue water sailing yacht, Bruce.

http://captainneal.wordpress.com/


What does a little yellow boat that is permanently moored have to do
with cruising?
--
Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok

On 9/22/2013 1:07 PM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· wrote:
Yes, just once I'd like to see a news article or a video or two
about a sailor who didn't look and act like some mentally
deficient vagrant and who didn't sail some equally decrepit-
looking boat that sailors and even lubbers look at and sneer
at.


You seem to have a thing about this guy's beard. If you look at the
video, you can see that it's carefully trimmed and not just an
indication that he's lost his desire to be well groomed.

I grew beards while voyaging too and probably for the same reason this
guy did - warmth. A beard like his and mine not only keep the face
warmer, but most importantly, the neck too.

As to his boat, where would you suggest he stow the fenders? Inside?
Then where would he go?

"slide" wrote in message
...
On 9/22/2013 1:07 PM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· wrote:
Yes, just once I'd like to see a news article or a video or two
about a sailor who didn't look and act like some mentally
deficient vagrant and who didn't sail some equally decrepit-
looking boat that sailors and even lubbers look at and sneer
at.


You seem to have a thing about this guy's beard. If you look at the video,
you can see that it's carefully trimmed and not just an indication that he's
lost his desire to be well groomed.

I grew beards while voyaging too and probably for the same reason this guy
did - warmth. A beard like his and mine not only keep the face warmer, but
most importantly, the neck too.

As to his boat, where would you suggest he stow the fenders? Inside? Then
where would he go?




Fenders? Real sailors anchor out and row a dinghy to shore.

Docks are hazardous to a vessel's topsides and that's why
fenders are used. Now, I ask you, does it make sense to put
your vessel in harm's way knowingly? I say knowingly because
the carrying and use of fenders proves an awareness of the
danger of dock or pier damage.

As for the beard, it makes the guy look like a bum or a Taliban.
If one wants warmth about the face and neck then try using a
scarf. Excessive facial hair is simply uncouth.

--
Sir Gregory

On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:12:57 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote:

"slide" wrote in message
...
On 9/22/2013 1:07 PM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· wrote:
Yes, just once I'd like to see a news article or a video or two
about a sailor who didn't look and act like some mentally
deficient vagrant and who didn't sail some equally decrepit-
looking boat that sailors and even lubbers look at and sneer
at.


You seem to have a thing about this guy's beard. If you look at the video,
you can see that it's carefully trimmed and not just an indication that he's
lost his desire to be well groomed.

I grew beards while voyaging too and probably for the same reason this guy
did - warmth. A beard like his and mine not only keep the face warmer, but
most importantly, the neck too.

As to his boat, where would you suggest he stow the fenders? Inside? Then
where would he go?



Fenders? Real sailors anchor out and row a dinghy to shore.

As I and a myriad of other have said, "you do not know what you are
talking about".

I guess that it will be news to you that you are not allowed to anchor
out in many places, particularly in the Med (that is Mediterranean).
In many other places anchoring out and taking a dinghy ashore will
result in your boat being stripped by the time you get back.


Docks are hazardous to a vessel's topsides and that's why
fenders are used. Now, I ask you, does it make sense to put
your vessel in harm's way knowingly? I say knowingly because
the carrying and use of fenders proves an awareness of the
danger of dock or pier damage.

As for the beard, it makes the guy look like a bum or a Taliban.
If one wants warmth about the face and neck then try using a
scarf. Excessive facial hair is simply uncouth.
--
Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok