|
Just once....
Yes, just once I'd like to see a news article or a video or two
about a sailor who didn't look and act like some mentally deficient vagrant and who didn't sail some equally decrepit- looking boat that sailors and even lubbers look at and sneer at. Why is it that sailors are always portrayed as losers and outcasts? Why is it that cruising is reported on in such a way that it generally reflects badly upon those of us who do things in a seamanlike manner and have vessels that are well-found and Bristol Fashion? Instead, what one sees is a parade of hapless individuals, one after another, about which the general public concludes they're sailing because they're some kind of nut job and bum who can't possible hold down a job so he's off to sea in the most irresponsible of manners, looking, for all the world, like a floating railroad vagrant. And, why is it that so-called sailors swoon over such dregs? What happened to their mental picture of sailors who do it competently, safely, seamanlike and professionally? Why is it they identify with and promote eccentric ne'er-do-wells which, if seen ashore, would be holding out a tin cup? Just why do so-called sailors act so proud to say they have met and talked to such beggar-like individuals. Is their own self-esteem so low that they actually look up to and admire floating vagrants aboard bum boats? Think about it, Bruce. -- Sir Gregory |
Just once....
On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 15:07:40 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote: Yes, just once I'd like to see a news article or a video or two about a sailor who didn't look and act like some mentally deficient vagrant and who didn't sail some equally decrepit- looking boat that sailors and even lubbers look at and sneer at. Why is it that sailors are always portrayed as losers and outcasts? Why is it that cruising is reported on in such a way that it generally reflects badly upon those of us who do things in a seamanlike manner and have vessels that are well-found and Bristol Fashion? Instead, what one sees is a parade of hapless individuals, one after another, about which the general public concludes they're sailing because they're some kind of nut job and bum who can't possible hold down a job so he's off to sea in the most irresponsible of manners, looking, for all the world, like a floating railroad vagrant. And, why is it that so-called sailors swoon over such dregs? What happened to their mental picture of sailors who do it competently, safely, seamanlike and professionally? Why is it they identify with and promote eccentric ne'er-do-wells which, if seen ashore, would be holding out a tin cup? Just why do so-called sailors act so proud to say they have met and talked to such beggar-like individuals. Is their own self-esteem so low that they actually look up to and admire floating vagrants aboard bum boats? Think about it, Bruce. You simply reinforce what everyone already knows - that you really know nothing about cruising. Ever done a cruise? Say a 3,000 mile open ocean trip from the Galapagos to Nuku Hiva? Do you somehow believe that one can spend several years sailing across oceans on a very small budget and have the boat and crew look as clean and neat as it did in the dealer's showroom? -- Cheers, Bruce in Bangkok |
Just once....
"Bruce in bangkok" wrote in message
... On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 15:07:40 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·" åke wrote: Yes, just once I'd like to see a news article or a video or two about a sailor who didn't look and act like some mentally deficient vagrant and who didn't sail some equally decrepit- looking boat that sailors and even lubbers look at and sneer at. Why is it that sailors are always portrayed as losers and outcasts? Why is it that cruising is reported on in such a way that it generally reflects badly upon those of us who do things in a seamanlike manner and have vessels that are well-found and Bristol Fashion? Instead, what one sees is a parade of hapless individuals, one after another, about which the general public concludes they're sailing because they're some kind of nut job and bum who can't possible hold down a job so he's off to sea in the most irresponsible of manners, looking, for all the world, like a floating railroad vagrant. And, why is it that so-called sailors swoon over such dregs? What happened to their mental picture of sailors who do it competently, safely, seamanlike and professionally? Why is it they identify with and promote eccentric ne'er-do-wells which, if seen ashore, would be holding out a tin cup? Just why do so-called sailors act so proud to say they have met and talked to such beggar-like individuals. Is their own self-esteem so low that they actually look up to and admire floating vagrants aboard bum boats? Think about it, Bruce. You simply reinforce what everyone already knows - that you really know nothing about cruising. Ever done a cruise? Say a 3,000 mile open ocean trip from the Galapagos to Nuku Hiva? Do you somehow believe that one can spend several years sailing across oceans on a very small budget and have the boat and crew look as clean and neat as it did in the dealer's showroom? Yes, I do. It's a matter of pride and accomplishment. One is easily able to do routine upkeep along the way. Sailing a bum boat is inexcusable, IMO, because it demonstrates a slovenly outlook on cruising and on sailing as a way of life. Does stop brushing one's teeth and bathing when one is cruising? I think not. So why should one sail a decrepit looking bum boat? Would you want people thinking, as you sailed into port, "Geez, there goes the neighborhood"? -- Sir Gregory -- Sir Gregory |
Just once....
On 9/22/2013 1:07 PM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· wrote:
Yes, just once I'd like to see a news article or a video or two about a sailor who didn't look and act like some mentally deficient vagrant and who didn't sail some equally decrepit- looking boat that sailors and even lubbers look at and sneer at. You seem to have a thing about this guy's beard. If you look at the video, you can see that it's carefully trimmed and not just an indication that he's lost his desire to be well groomed. I grew beards while voyaging too and probably for the same reason this guy did - warmth. A beard like his and mine not only keep the face warmer, but most importantly, the neck too. As to his boat, where would you suggest he stow the fenders? Inside? Then where would he go? |
Just once....
"slide" wrote in message
... On 9/22/2013 1:07 PM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· wrote: Yes, just once I'd like to see a news article or a video or two about a sailor who didn't look and act like some mentally deficient vagrant and who didn't sail some equally decrepit- looking boat that sailors and even lubbers look at and sneer at. You seem to have a thing about this guy's beard. If you look at the video, you can see that it's carefully trimmed and not just an indication that he's lost his desire to be well groomed. I grew beards while voyaging too and probably for the same reason this guy did - warmth. A beard like his and mine not only keep the face warmer, but most importantly, the neck too. As to his boat, where would you suggest he stow the fenders? Inside? Then where would he go? Fenders? Real sailors anchor out and row a dinghy to shore. Docks are hazardous to a vessel's topsides and that's why fenders are used. Now, I ask you, does it make sense to put your vessel in harm's way knowingly? I say knowingly because the carrying and use of fenders proves an awareness of the danger of dock or pier damage. As for the beard, it makes the guy look like a bum or a Taliban. If one wants warmth about the face and neck then try using a scarf. Excessive facial hair is simply uncouth. -- Sir Gregory |
Just once....
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 09:18:26 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote: "Bruce in bangkok" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 15:07:40 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·" åke wrote: Yes, just once I'd like to see a news article or a video or two about a sailor who didn't look and act like some mentally deficient vagrant and who didn't sail some equally decrepit- looking boat that sailors and even lubbers look at and sneer at. Why is it that sailors are always portrayed as losers and outcasts? Why is it that cruising is reported on in such a way that it generally reflects badly upon those of us who do things in a seamanlike manner and have vessels that are well-found and Bristol Fashion? Instead, what one sees is a parade of hapless individuals, one after another, about which the general public concludes they're sailing because they're some kind of nut job and bum who can't possible hold down a job so he's off to sea in the most irresponsible of manners, looking, for all the world, like a floating railroad vagrant. And, why is it that so-called sailors swoon over such dregs? What happened to their mental picture of sailors who do it competently, safely, seamanlike and professionally? Why is it they identify with and promote eccentric ne'er-do-wells which, if seen ashore, would be holding out a tin cup? Just why do so-called sailors act so proud to say they have met and talked to such beggar-like individuals. Is their own self-esteem so low that they actually look up to and admire floating vagrants aboard bum boats? Think about it, Bruce. You simply reinforce what everyone already knows - that you really know nothing about cruising. Ever done a cruise? Say a 3,000 mile open ocean trip from the Galapagos to Nuku Hiva? Do you somehow believe that one can spend several years sailing across oceans on a very small budget and have the boat and crew look as clean and neat as it did in the dealer's showroom? Yes, I do. It's a matter of pride and accomplishment. One is easily able to do routine upkeep along the way. Sailing a bum boat is inexcusable, IMO, because it demonstrates a slovenly outlook on cruising and on sailing as a way of life. Does stop brushing one's teeth and bathing when one is cruising? I think not. So why should one sail a decrepit looking bum boat? Would you want people thinking, as you sailed into port, "Geez, there goes the neighborhood"? -- Sir Gregory As I and you other readers have said, "You know nothing of what you speak". -- Cheers, Bruce in Bangkok |
Just once....
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:12:57 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
åke wrote: "slide" wrote in message ... On 9/22/2013 1:07 PM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· wrote: Yes, just once I'd like to see a news article or a video or two about a sailor who didn't look and act like some mentally deficient vagrant and who didn't sail some equally decrepit- looking boat that sailors and even lubbers look at and sneer at. You seem to have a thing about this guy's beard. If you look at the video, you can see that it's carefully trimmed and not just an indication that he's lost his desire to be well groomed. I grew beards while voyaging too and probably for the same reason this guy did - warmth. A beard like his and mine not only keep the face warmer, but most importantly, the neck too. As to his boat, where would you suggest he stow the fenders? Inside? Then where would he go? Fenders? Real sailors anchor out and row a dinghy to shore. As I and a myriad of other have said, "you do not know what you are talking about". I guess that it will be news to you that you are not allowed to anchor out in many places, particularly in the Med (that is Mediterranean). In many other places anchoring out and taking a dinghy ashore will result in your boat being stripped by the time you get back. Docks are hazardous to a vessel's topsides and that's why fenders are used. Now, I ask you, does it make sense to put your vessel in harm's way knowingly? I say knowingly because the carrying and use of fenders proves an awareness of the danger of dock or pier damage. As for the beard, it makes the guy look like a bum or a Taliban. If one wants warmth about the face and neck then try using a scarf. Excessive facial hair is simply uncouth. -- Cheers, Bruce in Bangkok |
Just once....
On 9/23/2013 12:12 PM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· wrote:
"slide" wrote in message Fenders? Real sailors anchor out and row a dinghy to shore. Docks are hazardous to a vessel's topsides and that's why fenders are used. Now, I ask you, does it make sense to put your vessel in harm's way knowingly? I say knowingly because the carrying and use of fenders proves an awareness of the danger of dock or pier damage. As for the beard, it makes the guy look like a bum or a Taliban. If one wants warmth about the face and neck then try using a scarf. Excessive facial hair is simply uncouth. I've had more than one situation where the anchorage was full and I could either wish my supplies on board or tie up at a dock. Also it's a bit dicey to fuel from an anchorage. Finally, in this fellow's case, his boat is roughly dingy sized so where would he stow one - in his pocket? Perhaps I looked like Taliban to you when I was sailing out of New England but I will accept that to keep my neck warm. |
Just once....
"Bruce in bangkok" wrote in message
... On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:12:57 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·" åke wrote: "slide" wrote in message ... On 9/22/2013 1:07 PM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· wrote: Yes, just once I'd like to see a news article or a video or two about a sailor who didn't look and act like some mentally deficient vagrant and who didn't sail some equally decrepit- looking boat that sailors and even lubbers look at and sneer at. You seem to have a thing about this guy's beard. If you look at the video, you can see that it's carefully trimmed and not just an indication that he's lost his desire to be well groomed. I grew beards while voyaging too and probably for the same reason this guy did - warmth. A beard like his and mine not only keep the face warmer, but most importantly, the neck too. As to his boat, where would you suggest he stow the fenders? Inside? Then where would he go? Fenders? Real sailors anchor out and row a dinghy to shore. As I and a myriad of other have said, "you do not know what you are talking about". I guess that it will be news to you that you are not allowed to anchor out in many places, particularly in the Med (that is Mediterranean). In many other places anchoring out and taking a dinghy ashore will result in your boat being stripped by the time you get back. So why would anybody with more than half a brain even sail to such pathetic places when there is a whole world of safe and attractive places to sail? It kinda goes to show that you just aren't too bright in that you'd unnecessarily put your boat and belongings in jeopardy. You appear to be one of those people who would wander around at night in an inner city ghetto wearing lots of gold chains and not expect to be mugged and robbed. -- Sir Gregory |
Just once....
"slide" wrote in
message ... On 9/23/2013 12:12 PM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· wrote: "slide" wrote in message Fenders? Real sailors anchor out and row a dinghy to shore. Docks are hazardous to a vessel's topsides and that's why fenders are used. Now, I ask you, does it make sense to put your vessel in harm's way knowingly? I say knowingly because the carrying and use of fenders proves an awareness of the danger of dock or pier damage. As for the beard, it makes the guy look like a bum or a Taliban. If one wants warmth about the face and neck then try using a scarf. Excessive facial hair is simply uncouth. I've had more than one situation where the anchorage was full and I could either wish my supplies on board or tie up at a dock. Also it's a bit dicey to fuel from an anchorage. Finally, in this fellow's case, his boat is roughly dingy sized so where would he stow one - in his pocket? Fuel a sailboat? One should be able to sail around the world with enough fuel on board provided one actually sails and not motors. And why would one even wish to visit a *full* anchorage when surely there are plenty of less than full anchorages to visit? I don't know about you but if I wanted a big crowds I'd sell the boat and invest in football tickets. There are, in reality, very few places one cannot go under sail in a small cruising sailboat. So, I don't buy the fuel argument. If I recall, Joshua Slocum sailed around the world and visited many ports and never had any need for motor fuel. Personally, I spent almost a year sailing the Bahamas several years ago. I departed the USA with 10 gallons of gasoline in jerry cans and when I returned I sill had six gallons left. I always use Sta-Bil® http://www.goldeagle.com/brands/stabil/ because I know it will take almost forever for me to use even six gallons of gasoline. As for the small size of that Taliban's boat, it doesn't preclude his shipping and storing, deflated, a small inflatable to use as a yacht tender. But, his boat is slovenly looking and I'm sure he's the type who is not the least bit concerned with his topsides being all scarred up by their interacting with docks and piers. I couldn't live like that, myself. My Imron® topsides paint is 30 years old now and look at it: http://captainneal.wordpress.com/#jp-carousel-22 It wouldn't look that way if I frequented docks and piers. Perhaps I looked like Taliban to you when I was sailing out of New England but I will accept that to keep my neck warm. That's all well and good but shave off the beard the day before you arrive in port after a long passage. If nothing else, the officials will treat you better if you don't look like some kind of a fugitive from justice. -- Sir Gregory |
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:25 AM. |
|
Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 BoatBanter.com