"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote
wrote

Really? Which clause of whose constitution, precisely?

"Section 2 of Article III of the United States Constitution gives
original jurisdiction in admiralty matters to the federal courts.
The federal courts have exclusive jurisdiction over most admiralty
and maritime claims pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1333. Under this
statute, federal district courts are granted original jurisdiction
over admiralty actions "saving to suitors," a right to file suit for
most of these actions in state court."

I don't see sailboats or motors mentioned there.

Too ****ing bad!!!



But it isn't. Interior waters have always been left to the states. And if
there is a bridge, it usually spans over state waters. Intercoastal, bays,
harbors, lakes, rivers, streams, rills. All state waters.

So the states can decide the laws that are beneficial to protect property
and lives. Now, I suspect one can sail under the Golden Gate, I don't see
why not, but most of the intracoastal would be limited as there are safety
issues if all other boats have to give way to some a*hole tacking under sail
in a narrow waterway. The intracoastal is 72' wide. You get turned
sideways in there and you could run aground, or cause a barge to run aground
causing millions of dollars in damages. Or more likely it'll just run you
slap over, especially in the costal waters of LA (that'd be Lous'ana to you
yankees).

So you can pretend it's "all sail, all the time" if you like. The stark
realities are that for safety reasons, for convenience, out of sheer respect
for your fellow boaters, then there will be certain times that a motor is
going to have to be used.

"paulthomascpa" wrote in message
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote
wrote

Really? Which clause of whose constitution, precisely?

"Section 2 of Article III of the United States Constitution gives
original jurisdiction in admiralty matters to the federal courts.
The federal courts have exclusive jurisdiction over most admiralty
and maritime claims pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1333. Under this
statute, federal district courts are granted original jurisdiction
over admiralty actions "saving to suitors," a right to file suit for
most of these actions in state court."

I don't see sailboats or motors mentioned there.

Too ****ing bad!!!



But it isn't. Interior waters have always been left to the states. And if
there is a bridge, it usually spans over state waters. Intercoastal, bays,
harbors, lakes, rivers, streams, rills. All state waters.

Hey stupid! Waters that connect to the oceans are considered
navigatible. Navigatable waters come under FEDERAL perview.
So take your ignorant communist views and stuff them.


Wilbur Hubbard.

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote
Hey stupid! Waters that connect to the oceans are considered
navigatible. Navigatable waters come under FEDERAL perview.
So take your ignorant communist views and stuff them.


All waters flow to the ocean. Or did you flunk out of physics.

"paulthomascpa" wrote in message
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote
Hey stupid! Waters that connect to the oceans are considered
navigatible. Navigatable waters come under FEDERAL perview.
So take your ignorant communist views and stuff them.

All waters flow to the ocean. Or did you flunk out of physics.



You are claiming that the Great Salt Lake, the Caspian Sea, Qinghai Lake and
other endorheic bodies of water all have waters that flow to the sea?

How droll!

You'd better click on this link and get educated, dude!

http://alldownstream.wordpress.com/2...world-by-area/


Wilbur Hubbard

"Wilbur Hubbard" opined:
You are claiming that the Great Salt Lake, the Caspian Sea, Qinghai Lake
and other endorheic bodies of water all have waters that flow to the sea?


Don't know about those others, but Salt Lake used to flow to the ocean. Or
did you miss that geology class in school. I imagine if the elevation rises
enough it'll once again flow to the ocean.

For someone who revels in the past, how'd you miss that? Clearly some
prehistoric sofa sailor navigated the rivers to what used to be known as the
Bonneville Lake. And you'da been proud that they paddled or sailed their
craft, nary a motor to be found back then, portaged it when necessary.

But since you claim that the Great Salt Lake doesn't flow to the ocean, then
please explain why, or what, the U.S. Department of the Interior's function
is with respect to the Great Salt Lake?

You said "Waters that connect to the oceans are considered navigatible.
Navigatable waters come under FEDERAL perview."

And then you claim that the Great Salt Lake doesn't connect to the ocean.
Yet here we are. A Federal agency having, what term did you use?, oh yeah,
"perview" (it's purview and navigable, but who's counting) over the lake.
How'd that happen.

You should check your logic, or check to see if you have logic. Check your
spelling too.

"paulthomascpa" wrote in message
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"Wilbur Hubbard" opined:
You are claiming that the Great Salt Lake, the Caspian Sea, Qinghai Lake
and other endorheic bodies of water all have waters that flow to the sea?


Don't know about those others, but Salt Lake used to flow to the ocean. Or
did you miss that geology class in school. I imagine if the elevation rises
enough it'll once again flow to the ocean.

For someone who revels in the past, how'd you miss that? Clearly some
prehistoric sofa sailor navigated the rivers to what used to be known as the
Bonneville Lake. And you'da been proud that they paddled or sailed their
craft, nary a motor to be found back then, portaged it when necessary.

But since you claim that the Great Salt Lake doesn't flow to the ocean, then
please explain why, or what, the U.S. Department of the Interior's function
is with respect to the Great Salt Lake?

You said "Waters that connect to the oceans are considered navigatible.
Navigatable waters come under FEDERAL perview."

And then you claim that the Great Salt Lake doesn't connect to the ocean.
Yet here we are. A Federal agency having, what term did you use?, oh yeah,
"perview" (it's purview and navigable, but who's counting) over the lake.
How'd that happen.

You should check your logic, or check to see if you have logic. Check your
spelling too.




You, who obviously have no logic, accusing me of the same is ludicrous.

You made the STUPID claim, and I quote, "All waters flow to the ocean. Or did
you flunk out of physics."

I then listed three bodies of water off the top of my head that do not flow to
the ocean and I linked to a website that listed the top ten of the many waters
that don't flow to the ocean. You ignored the facts and went off on a tangent
with spelling lames and possible flowing to the ocean "in the future." Yah
right! What don't you get about your dumbass statement, "All waters flow to
the ocean," being a present tense statement?

Wilbur Hubbard