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On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:26:47 -0400, Ernie wrote:

While you're on the subject of ecology Wilbur, would you mind telling us
why you think dumping your pee and turds into coastal waters is OK.


I believe he has a 2 cycle outboard also, talk about oil in the water.

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On 3/18/2011 1:36 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:26:47 -0400, wrote:

While you're on the subject of ecology Wilbur, would you mind telling us
why you think dumping your pee and turds into coastal waters is OK.


I believe he has a 2 cycle outboard also, talk about oil in the water.

Ewwww.........

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:26:47 -0400, Ernie wrote:

While you're on the subject of ecology Wilbur, would you mind telling us
why you think dumping your pee and turds into coastal waters is OK.


I believe he has a 2 cycle outboard also, talk about oil in the water.



The Tohatsu 6HP is a four-stroke motor and meets Ultra Low emission
standards.

Not only that, but it is rarely used - unlike your diesel boat which uses
the engine every time it gets underway. My sailing yacht moves about 98% of
the time under sail. Your diesel boat moves 100% of the time under the
pollution-making diesel. You should be ashamed of yourself.

And, probably even when you're not underway, you're running a diesel powered
generator. So, in effect, you pollute 24/7 when you're out cruising.

So, stop trying to change the subject. Just admit your irresponsible and
selfish attitude concerning your willingness to pollute the very air we
breathe just because you honestly feel your recreation is more important
than our health.


Wilbur Hubbard

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"Ernie" wrote in message
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On 3/18/2011 1:36 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:26:47 -0400, wrote:

While you're on the subject of ecology Wilbur, would you mind telling us
why you think dumping your pee and turds into coastal waters is OK.


I believe he has a 2 cycle outboard also, talk about oil in the water.

Ewwww.........



Two equally ignorant Rubes speculating and getting it wrong. LOL!

I guess you two are just too environmentally irresponsible to learn how to
sail and to enjoy the benefits of sail over motor in a recreational capacity
when it comes to the environment. And, you are the ones most hurt by your
own pollution machines - you breathe it abundantly when underway as in any
trawler the exhaust swirls around the transom and gets drawn forward into
the accommodation where the entire boat reeks of diesel fumes and the lungs
of the occupants end up polluted with it.

Get a clue you two.


Wilbur Hubbard

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:26:47 -0400, wrote:

While you're on the subject of ecology Wilbur, would you mind telling us
why you think dumping your pee and turds into coastal waters is OK.


I believe he has a 2 cycle outboard also, talk about oil in the water.

Funny, it looked like a small horsepower Japanese four stroke outboard
to me. You boys just can't give it a rest, can you?

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On 3/18/2011 1:53 PM, Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
wrote in message
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On 3/18/2011 1:36 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:26:47 -0400, wrote:

While you're on the subject of ecology Wilbur, would you mind telling us
why you think dumping your pee and turds into coastal waters is OK.


I believe he has a 2 cycle outboard also, talk about oil in the water.

Ewwww.........



Two equally ignorant Rubes speculating and getting it wrong. LOL!

I guess you two are just too environmentally irresponsible to learn how to
sail and to enjoy the benefits of sail over motor in a recreational capacity
when it comes to the environment. And, you are the ones most hurt by your
own pollution machines - you breathe it abundantly when underway as in any
trawler the exhaust swirls around the transom and gets drawn forward into
the accommodation where the entire boat reeks of diesel fumes and the lungs
of the occupants end up polluted with it.

Get a clue you two.


Wilbur Hubbard


Wilbur you are a pig. No, I take that back. Pigs are cleaner than you.

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"Harryk" wrote in message
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:26:47 -0400, wrote:

While you're on the subject of ecology Wilbur, would you mind telling us
why you think dumping your pee and turds into coastal waters is OK.


I believe he has a 2 cycle outboard also, talk about oil in the water.

Funny, it looked like a small horsepower Japanese four stroke outboard to
me. You boys just can't give it a rest, can you?





Can you say, "MORONS?"

http://www.onlineoutboards.com/Tohat...p-MFS6BUL.html


Wilbur Hubbard

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Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 13:19:33 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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OIC... well, I guess a really small boat going fast or slow wouldn't
be as safe as a bigger boat in bad weather?
Depends on the seaworthiness of the boat. Any size boat can be seaworthy as
long as it is built stoutly and has a crew that knows how to handle her in a
blow. A ships life boat is a good example. The ship founders in a storm and
the crew takes to the life boats which are very small in comparison and
expects to survive the storm conditions in them. Sometimes small is better.

snip

I believe you. I just thought this was about sailing not using an
engine. What about on a slightly longer trip.. wouldn't you want to
use sail power as much as you can, so you don't run out?

One would think so, but . . .

Most of the people posting here NEVER sailed a boat that didn't have an
engine. An engine on a sailboat is supposed to be an auxiliary which means a
secondary means of power. Sadly, most of the Rubes here run their diesels
even when the sails are up. And should the wind die and they can't do hull
speed, they 'supplement' the sails with the diesel. It's shameful! Why don't
people like that just admit to themselves that they are not interested in
sailing and just sell the poor sailboat to somebody who would appreciate it
for what it was designed to do and buy a motorboat such as a trawler?


Wilbur Hubbard

Engineless boats? And who was it searching for the cheapest outboard
he could find, and has posted pictures of his yellow anchor buoy with
the outboard attached?

Why, it was Willie-boy, the armchair sailor who must have been reading
The Pardys this week.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Balls.

Remember the punch line?

You get dirty - and the pig loves it?

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On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:19:55 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:38:06 -0700, Mark Borgerson
wrote:

However, part of the problem in that conversion is that you can
get a 36' sailboat in decent condition for about half the cost
of a 36' trawler.

Considering that the trawler probably has more than twice as much
livable space and a lot more comfortable, not such a bad deal. :-)




It's a bad deal for the environment as marine diesel engines are notorious
for the huge amounts of air pollution they spew. And, they drip oil and fuel
and foul the bilges which foul bilge water and fuel dregs are then pumped
into the water.

I never could understand how anybody in their right mind could be justified
in thinking that their fun takes precedence over folks who wish to breathe
clean air. It's such a me me me, selfish attitude. It reeks of elitism and
hypocrisy.

Really, it's no different than Al Gore flying all over the glove in his
private jet then complaining about how much pollution and CO2 other people
are responsible for.

Yah, right!


Wilbur Hubbard


And so speaks Willie-Boy the armchair sailor - (wonder what he has
been reading this week?)

And, as usual, full of it, right up to his brown eyes.

Firstly a marine diesel is not more likely to "spew huge amounts of
air pollution" then any other engine. Probably even less harmful
pollution then Willie-boy's frequently mentioned Van (where he hand
washes his shorts).

It is an obvious lie when Willie-boy says that "I never could
understand how anybody in their right mind could be justified in
thinking that their fun takes precedence". His posts to this group
alone demonstrate that he feels that HIS fun takes precedence.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

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On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 13:26:47 -0400, Ernie wrote:

On 3/18/2011 1:19 PM, Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
wrote in message
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:38:06 -0700, Mark Borgerson
wrote:

However, part of the problem in that conversion is that you can
get a 36' sailboat in decent condition for about half the cost
of a 36' trawler.

Considering that the trawler probably has more than twice as much
livable space and a lot more comfortable, not such a bad deal. :-)




It's a bad deal for the environment as marine diesel engines are notorious
for the huge amounts of air pollution they spew. And, they drip oil and fuel
and foul the bilges which foul bilge water and fuel dregs are then pumped
into the water.

I never could understand how anybody in their right mind could be justified
in thinking that their fun takes precedence over folks who wish to breathe
clean air. It's such a me me me, selfish attitude. It reeks of elitism and
hypocrisy.

Really, it's no different than Al Gore flying all over the glove in his
private jet then complaining about how much pollution and CO2 other people
are responsible for.

Yah, right!


Wilbur Hubbard


While you're on the subject of ecology Wilbur, would you mind telling us
why you think dumping your pee and turds into coastal waters is OK.


Of course it is O.K. after all, it is Willie-Boy Hubbard (the armchair
sailor) who is doing it.

(If it were you THEN it would be pollution)
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)