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Wurkin in the oil patch
Someone here mentioned doing offshore oil work and I worked on drill
rigs in Wyoming when I was younger so thought it might be just what my 19 yr old son needs to get his head screwed on straight. Make some money, see what real work is, see how rough people can really be and THEN go to college. So, found him the ideal job, no experience needed, 20 days on 10 off, they pay for room and board while on, reasonable pay, work on rear deck of boats setting anchors for drill rigs. They actually need people. Went home and told my son to go online and apply. "NO WAY, I dont want to do that", he says. "You just want to get rid of me". To which I say, "Yeah, and so what, it's good money and you are hardly earning anything right now". He resists saying he's taking classes at community college and does earn some money but I say 6 hours a semester is BS. I tell my wife about this job and she sides with him saying "if he goes off on one of those boats he'll lose his gf, you know how hard it was when you did that stuff". I think, being only 19, he needs to lose the gf so I am going to apply more pressure. |
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:35:29 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote: Someone here mentioned doing offshore oil work and I worked on drill rigs in Wyoming when I was younger so thought it might be just what my 19 yr old son needs to get his head screwed on straight. Make some money, see what real work is, see how rough people can really be and THEN go to college. So, found him the ideal job, no experience needed, 20 days on 10 off, they pay for room and board while on, reasonable pay, work on rear deck of boats setting anchors for drill rigs. They actually need people. Went home and told my son to go online and apply. "NO WAY, I dont want to do that", he says. "You just want to get rid of me". To which I say, "Yeah, and so what, it's good money and you are hardly earning anything right now". He resists saying he's taking classes at community college and does earn some money but I say 6 hours a semester is BS. I tell my wife about this job and she sides with him saying "if he goes off on one of those boats he'll lose his gf, you know how hard it was when you did that stuff". I think, being only 19, he needs to lose the gf so I am going to apply more pressure. Why not pay for him to go to school full time? Otherwise charge him rent for living at home. Our situation was slightly different but when my sons came back after graduating college and wanting to live home, I made some rules: They would have to pay a reasonable amount of rent and follow house rules. I told them that I would hold the rent as a deposit against graduate school expenses but they would lose it otherwise. That went over like a lead baloon but my wife backed me up because of the graduate school provision. They both moved out and got places of their own within a short time and that was fine with me. |
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:35:29 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote: Someone here mentioned doing offshore oil work and I worked on drill rigs in Wyoming when I was younger so thought it might be just what my 19 yr old son needs to get his head screwed on straight. Make some money, see what real work is, see how rough people can really be and THEN go to college. So, found him the ideal job, no experience needed, 20 days on 10 off, they pay for room and board while on, reasonable pay, work on rear deck of boats setting anchors for drill rigs. They actually need people. Went home and told my son to go online and apply. "NO WAY, I dont want to do that", he says. "You just want to get rid of me". To which I say, "Yeah, and so what, it's good money and you are hardly earning anything right now". He resists saying he's taking classes at community college and does earn some money but I say 6 hours a semester is BS. I tell my wife about this job and she sides with him saying "if he goes off on one of those boats he'll lose his gf, you know how hard it was when you did that stuff". I think, being only 19, he needs to lose the gf so I am going to apply more pressure. When I graduated high school and decided to go to work rather then go on to collage my father told me that, "now you're a man I expect you'll be getting yourself a place and being independent". After giving that some thought - hot damn! Doing my own laundry? No family car to borrow? Where am I going to eat? I decided that collage, that my parents were paying for, might be a better course of action :-) Give the lad some independence - let him pay the bills. Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:35:29 -0800, Frogwatch wrote:
Someone here mentioned doing offshore oil work and I worked on drill rigs in Wyoming when I was younger so thought it might be just what my 19 yr old son needs to get his head screwed on straight. Make some money, see what real work is, see how rough people can really be and THEN go to college. So, found him the ideal job, no experience needed, 20 days on 10 off, they pay for room and board while on, reasonable pay, work on rear deck of boats setting anchors for drill rigs. They actually need people. Went home and told my son to go online and apply. "NO WAY, I dont want to do that", he says. "You just want to get rid of me". To which I say, "Yeah, and so what, it's good money and you are hardly earning anything right now". He resists saying he's taking classes at community college and does earn some money but I say 6 hours a semester is BS. I tell my wife about this job and she sides with him saying "if he goes off on one of those boats he'll lose his gf, you know how hard it was when you did that stuff". I think, being only 19, he needs to lose the gf so I am going to apply more pressure. Nothing for nothing, but I spent several years working on an offshore drilling rig. It's not the type of job I would pressure anyone into taking, let alone my son. It's one of the more dangerous jobs there is. I enjoyed my time there, and found it fascinating work, but it was my choice. If my son got hurt, or worse, because of my pressuring ... And, frankly, when the seas kicked up, it was a lot safer on the rig, than it was on a ready boat. |
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On Nov 19, 12:35*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Someone here mentioned doing offshore oil work and I worked on drill rigs in Wyoming when I was younger so thought it might be just what my 19 yr old son needs to get his head screwed on straight. *Make some money, see what real work is, see how rough people can really be and THEN go to college. So, found him the ideal job, no experience needed, 20 days on 10 off, they pay for room and board while on, reasonable pay, work on rear deck of boats setting anchors for drill rigs. *They actually need people. *Went home and told my son to go online and apply. "NO WAY, I dont want to do that", he says. *"You just want to get rid of me". *To which I say, "Yeah, and so what, it's good money and you are hardly earning anything right now". He resists saying he's taking classes at community college and does earn some money but I say 6 hours a semester is BS. *I tell my wife about this job and she sides with him saying "if he goes off on one of those boats he'll lose his gf, you know how hard it was when you did that stuff". *I think, being only 19, he needs to lose the gf so I am going to apply more pressure. Setting anchors is mighty dangerious work, and being on deck is ground zero. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b38woxy6IRc A roustabout on a rig or deck hand on a supply or crewboat would be a safer first step. He could also find a 4 point anchor boat or a standby boat and work with the old men, and jr deckhands. Being gone 20 days will test his relationship. He will find out if his gf is for real or not. Good Luck Joe |
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On Nov 19, 12:35*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Someone here mentioned doing offshore oil work and I worked on drill rigs in Wyoming when I was younger so thought it might be just what my 19 yr old son needs to get his head screwed on straight. *Make some money, see what real work is, see how rough people can really be and THEN go to college. So, found him the ideal job, no experience needed, 20 days on 10 off, they pay for room and board while on, reasonable pay, work on rear deck of boats setting anchors for drill rigs. *They actually need people. *Went home and told my son to go online and apply. "NO WAY, I dont want to do that", he says. *"You just want to get rid of me". *To which I say, "Yeah, and so what, it's good money and you are hardly earning anything right now". He resists saying he's taking classes at community college and does earn some money but I say 6 hours a semester is BS. *I tell my wife about this job and she sides with him saying "if he goes off on one of those boats he'll lose his gf, you know how hard it was when you did that stuff". *I think, being only 19, he needs to lose the gf so I am going to apply more pressure. RIP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQoRp...1&feature=fvwp Joe |
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On Nov 20, 10:41*am, Joe wrote:
On Nov 19, 12:35*pm, Frogwatch wrote: Someone here mentioned doing offshore oil work and I worked on drill rigs in Wyoming when I was younger so thought it might be just what my 19 yr old son needs to get his head screwed on straight. *Make some money, see what real work is, see how rough people can really be and THEN go to college. So, found him the ideal job, no experience needed, 20 days on 10 off, they pay for room and board while on, reasonable pay, work on rear deck of boats setting anchors for drill rigs. *They actually need people. *Went home and told my son to go online and apply. "NO WAY, I dont want to do that", he says. *"You just want to get rid of me". *To which I say, "Yeah, and so what, it's good money and you are hardly earning anything right now". He resists saying he's taking classes at community college and does earn some money but I say 6 hours a semester is BS. *I tell my wife about this job and she sides with him saying "if he goes off on one of those boats he'll lose his gf, you know how hard it was when you did that stuff". *I think, being only 19, he needs to lose the gf so I am going to apply more pressure. RIPhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQoRpJsrwsU&NR=1&feature=fvwp Joe I spent several years being a drill stem tester and loved and hated it. Because I had a BS in physics, the company had this weird idea that I'd be great for all the truly f%$cked jobs so saw just about all the crazy things that can happen. After a week, I never let anyone know I had ever been anywhere near a university, It was dangerous, hard and exciting and a I learned a lot about people AND earned money for grad school. It was a job meant for high school level people, not for a techie type but it was something I will always be happy I did. I saw well blow outs, I saw a rig destroyed when the company insisted on pulling pipe full of mud filled with gas. I saw pipe stands fall on people on the rig floor, wireline with 4000lbs tension broke 6' from my head when I was dangling 90' off the rig floor in a sling holding a 48' pipe wrench, pipe differentially stuck so bad it had to be cut off, watched a hand fall thru the fingerboard from unexpected H2S, my gas mask was my best friend, and on and on and.....GREAT experience. |
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On Nov 20, 10:14*am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Nov 20, 10:41*am, Joe wrote: On Nov 19, 12:35*pm, Frogwatch wrote: Someone here mentioned doing offshore oil work and I worked on drill rigs in Wyoming when I was younger so thought it might be just what my 19 yr old son needs to get his head screwed on straight. *Make some money, see what real work is, see how rough people can really be and THEN go to college. So, found him the ideal job, no experience needed, 20 days on 10 off, they pay for room and board while on, reasonable pay, work on rear deck of boats setting anchors for drill rigs. *They actually need people. *Went home and told my son to go online and apply. "NO WAY, I dont want to do that", he says. *"You just want to get rid of me". *To which I say, "Yeah, and so what, it's good money and you are hardly earning anything right now". He resists saying he's taking classes at community college and does earn some money but I say 6 hours a semester is BS. *I tell my wife about this job and she sides with him saying "if he goes off on one of those boats he'll lose his gf, you know how hard it was when you did that stuff". *I think, being only 19, he needs to lose the gf so I am going to apply more pressure. RIPhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQoRpJsrwsU&NR=1&feature=fvwp Joe I spent several years being a drill stem tester and loved and hated it. *Because I had a BS *in physics, the company had this weird idea that I'd be great for all the truly f%$cked jobs so saw just about all the crazy things that can happen. *After a week, I never let anyone know I had ever been anywhere near a university, *It was dangerous, hard and exciting and a I learned a lot about people AND earned money for grad school. *It was a job meant for high school level people, not for a techie type but it was something I will always be happy I did. I saw well blow outs, I saw a rig destroyed when the company insisted on pulling pipe full of mud filled with gas. *I saw pipe stands fall on people on the rig floor, *wireline with 4000lbs tension broke 6' from my head when I was dangling 90' off the rig floor in a sling holding a 48' pipe wrench, pipe differentially stuck so bad it had to be cut off, watched a hand fall thru the fingerboard from unexpected H2S, my gas mask was my best friend, and on and on and.....GREAT experience.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I'm not saying it is not the right step for your son. But if he were not a big burly football player type it might be best to avoid the anchor boats as a first gig offshore. I would have a hard time working anchors not knowing and trusting the crew. If the boat is setting semi anchors you are talking about 35 thousand lbs racing down the deck, and things that get into the way do not exist. I've never worked on a rig, been on a 100 of em, mostly PR and crew changes but never stayed long. We worked a H2S rig once and it's scary stuff for the boats, as the gas is heavier than air. They even made sure you had intact eardrums as it could seep in that way and kill you. We made a point to stay up wind. Joe |
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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:41:41 -0800 (PST), Joe
wrote: RIP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQoRp...1&feature=fvwp I understand that the capsize was caused by the tug getting sideways to the pull of the cable, but what was the underlying reason that it got sideways in the first place? |
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On Nov 20, 11:31*am, Joe wrote:
On Nov 20, 10:14*am, Frogwatch wrote: On Nov 20, 10:41*am, Joe wrote: On Nov 19, 12:35*pm, Frogwatch wrote: Someone here mentioned doing offshore oil work and I worked on drill rigs in Wyoming when I was younger so thought it might be just what my 19 yr old son needs to get his head screwed on straight. *Make some money, see what real work is, see how rough people can really be and THEN go to college. So, found him the ideal job, no experience needed, 20 days on 10 off, they pay for room and board while on, reasonable pay, work on rear deck of boats setting anchors for drill rigs. *They actually need people. *Went home and told my son to go online and apply. "NO WAY, I dont want to do that", he says. *"You just want to get rid of me". *To which I say, "Yeah, and so what, it's good money and you are hardly earning anything right now". He resists saying he's taking classes at community college and does earn some money but I say 6 hours a semester is BS. *I tell my wife about this job and she sides with him saying "if he goes off on one of those boats he'll lose his gf, you know how hard it was when you did that stuff". *I think, being only 19, he needs to lose the gf so I am going to apply more pressure. RIPhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQoRpJsrwsU&NR=1&feature=fvwp Joe I spent several years being a drill stem tester and loved and hated it. *Because I had a BS *in physics, the company had this weird idea that I'd be great for all the truly f%$cked jobs so saw just about all the crazy things that can happen. *After a week, I never let anyone know I had ever been anywhere near a university, *It was dangerous, hard and exciting and a I learned a lot about people AND earned money for grad school. *It was a job meant for high school level people, not for a techie type but it was something I will always be happy I did. I saw well blow outs, I saw a rig destroyed when the company insisted on pulling pipe full of mud filled with gas. *I saw pipe stands fall on people on the rig floor, *wireline with 4000lbs tension broke 6' from my head when I was dangling 90' off the rig floor in a sling holding a 48' pipe wrench, pipe differentially stuck so bad it had to be cut off, watched a hand fall thru the fingerboard from unexpected H2S, my gas mask was my best friend, and on and on and.....GREAT experience.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - *I'm not saying it is not the right step for your son. But if he were not a big burly football player type it might be best to avoid the anchor boats as a first gig offshore. I would have a hard time working anchors not knowing and trusting the crew. *If the boat is setting semi anchors you are talking about 35 thousand lbs racing down the deck, and things that get into the way do not exist. *I've never worked on a rig, been on a 100 of em, mostly PR and crew changes but never stayed long. We worked a H2S rig once and it's scary stuff for the boats, as the gas is heavier than air. They even made sure you had intact eardrums as it could seep in that way and kill you. We made a point to stay up wind. Joe There are probably some jobs he could do as an unskilled healthy 19 yr old guy. Things have probably changed since I last did this stuff. Do they still use manual pipe tongs? I heard they were going to power tongs to tighten joints. I have also heard that "throwing the chain" is illegal to thread the joints together. Do they still use floorhands to handle pipe? |
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