On Nov 20, 11:00*am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:41:41 -0800 (PST), Joe

wrote:
RIP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQoRp...1&feature=fvwp

I understand that the capsize was caused by the tug getting sideways
to the pull of the cable, but what was the underlying reason that it
got sideways in the first place?

Current and wind. Then trying to work the load up current and wind,
and shifting the tow heads on the stern to the load side is puzzeling.
I'm sure he did it to help turn the bow upwind, current, but it was a
bad move. He should have started over.

Joe

I understand that the capsize was caused by the tug getting sideways
to the pull of the cable, but what was the underlying reason that it
got sideways in the first place?


Current and wind. Then trying to work the load up current and wind,
and shifting the tow heads on the stern to the load side is puzzeling.
I'm sure he did it to help turn the bow upwind, current, but it was a
bad move. He should have started over.
Joe


Joe my master mariner.........

Are you suggesting operator error that included failure to controll
vessel/tow?
Bob
LIVE FROM LA (as in California for those with limitted travel
experince)

On Nov 20, 3:38*pm, Bob wrote:
I understand that the capsize was caused by the tug getting sideways
to the pull of the cable, but what was the underlying reason that it
got sideways in the first place?
Current and wind. Then trying to work the load up current and wind,
and shifting the tow heads on the stern to the load side is puzzeling.
I'm sure he did it to help turn the bow upwind, current, but it was a
bad move. He should have started over.
Joe

Joe my master mariner.........

Are you suggesting operator error that included failure to controll
vessel/tow?
Bob
LIVE FROM LA (as in California for those with limitted travel
experince)

I dont know boB, just saw the you-tube video. And with no narration I
may have rushed to a conclusion. Bet it was a combo of many many
things that lead up to the loss. Could be equipment failure, mis-
communications, operator error, flukes and gremlins, or a combo of any
and all. I would bet by now you could Google up some official info if
you were really interested.

Joe

On Nov 20, 6:25*pm, Joe wrote:
On Nov 20, 3:38*pm, Bob wrote:



I understand that the capsize was caused by the tug getting sideways
to the pull of the cable, but what was the underlying reason that it
got sideways in the first place?
Current and wind. Then trying to work the load up current and wind,
and shifting the tow heads on the stern to the load side is puzzeling..
I'm sure he did it to help turn the bow upwind, current, but it was a
bad move. He should have started over.
Joe

Joe my master mariner.........

Are you suggesting operator error that included failure to controll
vessel/tow?
Bob
LIVE FROM LA (as in California for those with limitted travel
experince)

*I dont know boB, just saw the you-tube video. And with no narration I
may have rushed to a conclusion. Bet it was a combo of many many
things that lead up to the loss. Could be equipment failure, mis-
communications, operator error, flukes and gremlins, or a combo of any
and all. I would bet by now you could Google up some official info if
you were really interested.

Joe

Regardless, it was a bad situation where probably all and none are to
blame.