"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...
And, if Slocum was alive today would he would want a GPS or chart
plotter?
Probably:much better and easier.
There is an engine available that could easily have been built in
Slocum's day: the Atomic 4, the proper size for a 28 foot
FriendshipSloop. Something anyone can fix with a few basic tools.
Screwdriver, hammer, pipe wrench, stuff like that. Slocum would want
enough juice for the GPS and a few lights. Solar cells would do, with
the new efficient solid state lights.


Seems to me a diesel would be better for a lot of reasons. Why mess with
explosive gas if you don't have to?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Richard Casady wrote:
On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 08:16:54 +0700, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 00:21:07 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:28:18 -0500, Geoff Schultz
wrote:

silverdragon wrote in news:91685a8a-6561-44c5-
:

This is probably a stupid question but I haven't come across an answer
in any of my sailing books.

How would you go about getting e-mail and an internet connection while
on the open ocean? What kind of equipment would you need to buy, and
what is the cost of the service?
Learn to disconnect from the Internet. I know it's not easy, but I used to
run an Internet company and am very used to being connected. However, with
Sailmail/Airmail you can still be connected and not need the web interface.
Remember, cruising is about letting go of your land based connections. And
believe it or not, you can do it!

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org
Slocum got along without an engine or anything electric.

Casady
I wonder how many people would be satisfied in cruising the way that
Slocum did it?

And, if Slocum was alive today would he would want a GPS or chart
plotter?
Probably:much better and easier.
There is an engine available that could easily have been built in
Slocum's day: the Atomic 4, the proper size for a 28 foot
FriendshipSloop. Something anyone can fix with a few basic tools.
Screwdriver, hammer, pipe wrench, stuff like that. Slocum would want
enough juice for the GPS and a few lights. Solar cells would do, with
the new efficient solid state lights.

Richard,

Have you actually read "Sailing Alone Around the World"?

His whole purpose was to get away from all the complications
of land locked life.

I don't think he even had a sextant on board!

Why would he embrace all this modern clap-trap???


Just wondering.


Richard

On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:15:01 -0400, Gogarty
wrote:

Didn't Slocum use an ordinary beat up alarm clock for a chronometer? Do you
think today he would have made do with a $10 Cassio?

A $10 Casio would be better than the finest chronometer available in
his day. It would have been considered as miraculous as a cell phone
or hand held GPS.

On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:47:02 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:15:01 -0400, Gogarty
wrote:

Didn't Slocum use an ordinary beat up alarm clock for a chronometer? Do you
think today he would have made do with a $10 Cassio?

A $10 Casio would be better than the finest chronometer available in
his day. It would have been considered as miraculous as a cell phone
or hand held GPS.

Any of the electric watches can be adjusted to keep time within a
second per month. A insulating plastic case with metal against the
skin does a good job of keeping the temperature steady.

Casady

On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:15:01 -0400, Gogarty
wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 00:21:07 GMT, (Richard
Casady) wrote:

On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:28:18 -0500, Geoff Schultz
wrote:

silverdragon wrote in news:91685a8a-6561-44c5-
:

This is probably a stupid question but I haven't come across an answer
in any of my sailing books.

How would you go about getting e-mail and an internet connection while
on the open ocean? What kind of equipment would you need to buy, and
what is the cost of the service?

Learn to disconnect from the Internet. I know it's not easy, but I used to
run an Internet company and am very used to being connected. However, with
Sailmail/Airmail you can still be connected and not need the web interface.

Remember, cruising is about letting go of your land based connections. And
believe it or not, you can do it!

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

Slocum got along without an engine or anything electric.

Casady

I wonder how many people would be satisfied in cruising the way that
Slocum did it?

And, if Slocum was alive today would he would want a GPS or chart
plotter?
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

This raises another issue. Here and there we have historic ships maintained in
just the way they were when built. No electronics, no engines, no labor saving
ship handling equipment, etc. But my belief is that any such ships that might
have remained in profitable service would have been continually upgraded
throughout their working (or fighting) lives until the entire platform (the
ship) just got too obsolete for any more retrofitting. So putting an engine in
the Half Moon (or Spray) is not an anachronism.

Didn't Slocum use an ordinary beat up alarm clock for a chronometer? Do you
think today he would have made do with a $10 Cassio?

The Bugis people of Sulawasi Island, in Indonesia, were famous
seafarers and traded all over S.E.A. They built, and still build, very
distinctive vessels and I remember seeing them late as the 1980's
moored side by side, bow into the dock, in both Singapore and Jakarta
- looked like an 1800's photo of Gloucester, Mass.

In the 1990's we were building a plant in Central Java and had some
commissioning engineers over from the States and one weekend I took
them down to the harbor to show them some "Bugis Schooners".

The harbor was still full of them but every one had the masts removed
and a big diesel engine slung over the stern to power it.

It appears that the people who actually make their living with water
craft are quite interested in modern technology and are quite
indifferent to the fact that "traditional" ways are being ignored.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
...

Slocum got along without an engine or anything electric.

Casady

I don't think he ever got to watch an episode of "Dexter," either. I'll take
the mod cons, thanks.

--
KLC Lewis

WISCONSIN
Where It's So Cool Outside, Nobody Stays Indoors Napping
www.KLCLewisStudios.com

Google search:

GBAN

True web cruising speed. They may have their marine antena ready and
their other bird in the air by now.

Bob

ALso, when the experts here chime in and lable aproduct as

too expensive
or
prohibitive

just remember they are most likely
1) some guy dreaming about sailing but stuck with a mortgauge and
three kids while also paying child support on two others and is simply
broke trying to keep appearance up so hi wife wont leave adn demand 3K/
month for the his other 3 kids.
or
2) living on $1300/month social security.

Bob