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Capt. JG June 19th 09 06:26 AM

anchor retrieval while single handing
 
"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Capt. JG wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:11:19 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

I'd be interested to hear if someone has an interesting solution or
suggestion.
My last couple of boats have had anchor windlasses with remote
controls at the helm. Works like a charm.



Too rich for my blood...


Mine too, but it is a valid question.

My only suggestion is to haul in line from the cockpit.

Pull the rode in taught to the bow and tie it off.
Then haul away as you move toward the anchor.

No need to actually "go forward" for that.


Richard



I don't really follow you... if it's tied off at the bow? Perhaps you mean
tie it off at the cockpit cleat? I've thought of that, but my concern is
that it could wrap the prop, since the boat would be moving forward. You'd
have to be very careful to keep the line taught.


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cavelamb June 19th 09 08:30 AM

anchor retrieval while single handing
 
Capt. JG wrote:
"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Capt. JG wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:11:19 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

I'd be interested to hear if someone has an interesting solution or
suggestion.
My last couple of boats have had anchor windlasses with remote
controls at the helm. Works like a charm.

Too rich for my blood...

Mine too, but it is a valid question.

My only suggestion is to haul in line from the cockpit.

Pull the rode in taught to the bow and tie it off.
Then haul away as you move toward the anchor.

No need to actually "go forward" for that.


Richard



I don't really follow you... if it's tied off at the bow? Perhaps you mean
tie it off at the cockpit cleat? I've thought of that, but my concern is
that it could wrap the prop, since the boat would be moving forward. You'd
have to be very careful to keep the line taught.



Yes, just so the line to the bow doesn't loop under and foul something.
And yes, keep the line taught.

Have you tried a curved approach?


Bruce In Bangkok June 19th 09 09:33 AM

anchor retrieval while single handing
 
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:42:21 GMT, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote:

Most serious cruising boats that we see are on very
heavy anchors and an all chain rode.


With or without a snubber?

Lew



I suspect that most are using a snubber as a casual survey (I had a
look at all the boats between me and the shore this morning) showed
that only one of them had a chain stopper and I seriously doubt that
they all are using the gipsy as a hard point.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Bruce In Bangkok June 19th 09 09:37 AM

anchor retrieval while single handing
 
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:30:02 -0500, cavelamb
wrote:

Capt. JG wrote:
"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Capt. JG wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:11:19 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

I'd be interested to hear if someone has an interesting solution or
suggestion.
My last couple of boats have had anchor windlasses with remote
controls at the helm. Works like a charm.

Too rich for my blood...

Mine too, but it is a valid question.

My only suggestion is to haul in line from the cockpit.

Pull the rode in taught to the bow and tie it off.
Then haul away as you move toward the anchor.

No need to actually "go forward" for that.


Richard



I don't really follow you... if it's tied off at the bow? Perhaps you mean
tie it off at the cockpit cleat? I've thought of that, but my concern is
that it could wrap the prop, since the boat would be moving forward. You'd
have to be very careful to keep the line taught.



Yes, just so the line to the bow doesn't loop under and foul something.
And yes, keep the line taught.

Have you tried a curved approach?


I knew a bloke who, when he wanted to retrieve the anchor, just ran
the anchor rode over the bow roller and back to one of the sheet
winches. Drive the boat ahead a bit and wind in on the winch.

He said it worked a treat.

By the way. Most electric anchor winches have a manual system to
operate them if the electrical power fails.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Wayne.B June 19th 09 12:54 PM

anchor retrieval while single handing
 
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:42:21 GMT, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote:

Most serious cruising boats that we see are on very
heavy anchors and an all chain rode.


With or without a snubber?


With a snubber and chain hook. That seems to be almost universal
practice. We have a chain stopper in front of the windlass but the
nylon snubber line provides shock absorption and prevents chain
rattle.

Wayne.B June 19th 09 01:00 PM

anchor retrieval while single handing
 
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:55:45 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:11:19 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

I'd be interested to hear if someone has an interesting solution or
suggestion.


My last couple of boats have had anchor windlasses with remote
controls at the helm. Works like a charm.



Too rich for my blood...


How much are your back and your boat worth ?

We have several possibilities for manual retreival if the windlass
fails. On a sailboat an obvious back up method is to run a snubber
line with chain hook aft to a sheet winch in the cockpit, locking off
the chain and repositioning the chain hook as necessary.

Keith nuttle June 19th 09 01:33 PM

anchor retrieval while single handing esential information.
 
cavelamb wrote:
Capt. JG wrote:
"cavelamb" wrote in message


Have you tried a curved approach?

This is a very interesting thread but as with other similar threads each
posters omits an essential piece of information. That information is
the size of the boat that they are talking about. The posters to this
group have many different types of boats. Retrieving an anchor on a 17"
bass boat is different that picking it up on a 21' sailboat, If you
have a 40' sailboat it will be significantly different than either of
the above boats.

I have a 21' sailboat that is dock and trailer sailed so don't have much
to contribute to this thread but I would like to learn when I upgrade to
a bigger boat.


Edgar June 19th 09 02:53 PM

anchor retrieval while single handing esential information.
 

"Keith Nuttle" wrote in message
...
cavelamb wrote:
Capt. JG wrote:
"cavelamb" wrote in message


Have you tried a curved approach?

This is a very interesting thread but as with other similar threads each
posters omits an essential piece of information. That information is the
size of the boat that they are talking about.


Not really.
Jon started the thread and said his boat weighs 8000 lb. We also know from
previous posts that it is about 30-32 feet.
My reply made it clear that my boat weighs 16000 lb and for the record it is
38'.





cavelamb June 19th 09 02:55 PM

anchor retrieval while single handing esential information.
 
Keith Nuttle wrote:
cavelamb wrote:
Capt. JG wrote:
"cavelamb" wrote in message


Have you tried a curved approach?

This is a very interesting thread but as with other similar threads each
posters omits an essential piece of information. That information is
the size of the boat that they are talking about. The posters to this
group have many different types of boats. Retrieving an anchor on a 17"
bass boat is different that picking it up on a 21' sailboat, If you
have a 40' sailboat it will be significantly different than either of
the above boats.

I have a 21' sailboat that is dock and trailer sailed so don't have much
to contribute to this thread but I would like to learn when I upgrade to
a bigger boat.



Good point.

I have a 26 footer.
But no, ya can't trailer it...

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~capri26/

Richard

Bruce In Bangkok June 19th 09 03:40 PM

anchor retrieval while single handing esential information.
 
On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:33:42 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

cavelamb wrote:
Capt. JG wrote:
"cavelamb" wrote in message


Have you tried a curved approach?

This is a very interesting thread but as with other similar threads each
posters omits an essential piece of information. That information is
the size of the boat that they are talking about. The posters to this
group have many different types of boats. Retrieving an anchor on a 17"
bass boat is different that picking it up on a 21' sailboat, If you
have a 40' sailboat it will be significantly different than either of
the above boats.

I have a 21' sailboat that is dock and trailer sailed so don't have much
to contribute to this thread but I would like to learn when I upgrade to
a bigger boat.



On walking the docks it seems that the "average" cruising boat seen
here is between, say 35 feet (and that would be pretty much the
smallest) and 55 or 60 feet. Probably the average is 40 ft. Of
course, they have all sailed here from somewhere else.

I would say that with the exception of an occasional manual windless
they are all equipped with electric anchor windless and probably 90%+
are using all chain rode and fairly heavy anchors. My own 40 ft sloop
displaces about 13 tons and has 45 lb. and 60 lb. CQR anchors and 200
ft. of 5/16 inch chain. If I were making off shore voyages I would
carry an additional 100 mtrs of 1 inch nylon rode for a total of 528
feet. Probably fairly typical of the anchoring equipment you see here.

Just for information (and I don't recommend it) I did make a trip down
to Malaysia and back with an inoperative anchor windless and hauled
the anchor once a day by hand, for six days.

Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


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