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wrote in message ... On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 21:36:01 +0200, "Edgar" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:17:03 -0400, "mmc" wrote: "Edgar" wrote in message ... "mmc" wrote in message ng.com... Agreed. Shallow water is the reason for my preference of a swing keel. I'm just off the Indian River Lagoon, where (as I'm sure you know), except for a few spots in our area, sailing is pretty much restricted to the ICW channel for boats with more than 4' draft. These open areas are mostly deep enough but I've done my share of sandbar hopping on a friends 27 Hunter with 4'2" draft. There's the ocean too, but we're about 5 boat hours from the inlet which doesn't allow for "just hop on the boat" outings. For shallow water I think that a centreboard is best if you want a boat that can go well to windward when there is sufficient depth and yet go into shallow water with the keel up. I don't understand your preference for swing keel in shallow water, unless we are not talking about the same thing. To me, a swing keel is what the deep ocean racers have, with a heavy bulb at the bottom that can be swung to one side to provide better stiffness on a long tack. In restricted shallow water that would be useless since when you tack there would be insufficient water to swing the keel down and hoist it up the other side. We're talking about the same thing. I've always understood a swing keel as the as the type that is drawn in a arc (pivoting on a pin at the top) into a trunk, either under the boat or inside the cabin as in the Freedoms. But then, I could have been using the wrong terminology for a long time now! I beleive the term for a type you describe that pivots side to side is "Canting Ballast". I've always thought of a swing keel as being a centerboard that is also substantial ballast. Yes, some are and some are not heavy. I have raced dinghies with cb's weighing almost 200 pounds and others where the cb was plywood for lightness with a slug of lead cast in to ensure it stayed down. If the purpose is just to present a surface, then it's a centerboard. If the purpose is also to provide substantial ballast similar to what a fixed keel would offer, then it's a swing keel. Two different animals. Thanks. |
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I'd suggest that you go to http://www.FreedomYachts.org/ and ask any questions that you may have. You'll get much more detailed answers than you'll get in here. -- Geoff www.GeoffSchultz.org Thanks. I follow the Yahoo owners group. This looks better. |
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ng.com: We met a couple from the RAF Yacht Club that had a Amel. What a beautiful boat. The outside is nearly as pretty as the bilge! Under the Sharki 41's galley is the main bilge pump. It's so far down to that pump, my arm only reaches about half way to it! I like the feeling of also have 3 watertight bulkheads between me and sinking, not zero. The chain locker aft bulkhead is the first. The main salon's forward bulkhead is second. The aft bulkhead of the aft cabin is third. All sink/shower drains go into the bilge to be pumped overboard ABOVE the waterline. No plastic fittings blowing off and flooding her or water spraying up into a sink in a blow. The forward head shower and sink drain into a basin under an open teak deck water just runs through. There's a steel pipe with ball valve to secure in a bow breach back to the main cabin watertight bulkhead to prevent flooding the main bilge. It's all very well thought out, first class. The whole center cockpit deck is the engineroom cover that hinges up. |
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Why dream so small, when you can dream LARGE?
289' Perini Navi aka Maltese Falcon - for sale! http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...d=22866&ur l= |
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"cavelamb" wrote in message m... Why dream so small, when you can dream LARGE? 289' Perini Navi aka Maltese Falcon - for sale! http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...d=22866&ur l= Ya, that might make a decent dinghy for my boat. Thanks for the link. :-D |
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KLC Lewis wrote:
"cavelamb" wrote in message m... Why dream so small, when you can dream LARGE? 289' Perini Navi aka Maltese Falcon - for sale! http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...d=22866&ur l= Ya, that might make a decent dinghy for my boat. Thanks for the link. :-D You're on the Nimitz, right? |
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