In article , cavelamb wrote:
When Brian A. Lewis of Seattle tried to sell his boat, Jubilee, no one would pay
his asking price of $28,500. Mr. Lewis told police investigators that
maintaining the boat caused “extreme anxiety,” which led him to him drill a
two-inch hole in Jubilee’s hull last March.

Jeebus, the mind absolutely boggles. REDUCE THE PRICE!

There are some of us who'd bite the hand off these people. I'm not a
poor man, but neither am I that wealthy that I can afford the boat of my
dreams. At the moment I'm looking for a boat, and my budget is about
$17k (12k of our British pounds). There's not an awful lot you can get
this side of the pond for that money.

I can understand that people don't want to make a loss on these things,
but surely it's better to get *some* money for a boat than lose it and
gain a criminal record?

What is happening to these boats abandoned in the US? Are salvage
companies taking them and re-selling them? Are they being scrapped? What
is the law regarding finding an abandoned boat - especially one with
it's identification erased? Are there cherries to be found in the
everglades?! Should I come for a holiday in the hope of finding
something?

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

Justin C wrote:
In article , cavelamb wrote:
When Brian A. Lewis of Seattle tried to sell his boat, Jubilee, no one would pay
his asking price of $28,500. Mr. Lewis told police investigators that
maintaining the boat caused “extreme anxiety,” which led him to him drill a
two-inch hole in Jubilee’s hull last March.

Jeebus, the mind absolutely boggles. REDUCE THE PRICE!

There are some of us who'd bite the hand off these people. I'm not a
poor man, but neither am I that wealthy that I can afford the boat of my
dreams. At the moment I'm looking for a boat, and my budget is about
$17k (12k of our British pounds). There's not an awful lot you can get
this side of the pond for that money.

I can understand that people don't want to make a loss on these things,
but surely it's better to get *some* money for a boat than lose it and
gain a criminal record?

What is happening to these boats abandoned in the US? Are salvage
companies taking them and re-selling them? Are they being scrapped? What
is the law regarding finding an abandoned boat - especially one with
it's identification erased? Are there cherries to be found in the
everglades?! Should I come for a holiday in the hope of finding
something?

Justin.



My wild guess would be that they are going to be considered salvage.

Wish I were there and had a good sized tug handy!

On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 19:23:57 -0000, Justin C
wrote:


I can understand that people don't want to make a loss on these things,
but surely it's better to get *some* money for a boat than lose it and
gain a criminal record?

Crims think they will get away with it.
Many do.
Look at Wall Street.

--Vic

I'd suggest that you go to http://www.FreedomYachts.org/ and ask any
questions that you may have. You'll get much more detailed answers than
you'll get in here.

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

Thanks. I follow the Yahoo owners group. This looks better.

"mmc" wrote in message
g.com...
is a Freedom 33 Cat Ketch. I like the semi-traditional look, the
uniqueness (is this a word?) of the cat ketch rig in a (more) modern
yachts and, from following the Yahoo owners group, the dedication
displayed by the owners for these boats.
I like the 36 too but not real fond of the big bump out in the cockpit
created by the aft cabin. We (the family and I) enjoy a large(r) cockpit
and this arrangement wouldn't work for us.
I'd like a shoal draft/swing keel but like the openess of the cabin with
the fixed keel (swing keel version has the trunk bisecting the salon), but
can't have everything so probably settle for the fixed keel.
I've seen other more recent cat ketches but most look like most other
modern boats that just happen to have this rig, almost as an after thought
while the Freedoms maintain some of the "chunkyness" of the old cat boats.
Not looking for screaming speed or to wow the dock walkers, but more the
comfort, design, ease of use and style of these boats.
Just trying to start a boat/cruising related discussion.
What do you guys think?



Not sure if you're interested, but I saw this on a newsletter I get.

FOR SALE Freedom 35 'Solo' (12/2008)
Built by Tillotson & Pearson, USA, 1983. Major refit 1999/2000.
Carbon Fibre freestanding masts with fully battened ketch rig.
Ideal Bluewater cruiser with the advantage of a doghouse for UK
type weather. New sails, new engine 2006.
Ashore Plymouth UK. £44,000.
Full details, photos at
www.petrockstowe.co.uk/solo



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
easolutions...
"mmc" wrote in message
g.com...
is a Freedom 33 Cat Ketch. I like the semi-traditional look, the
uniqueness (is this a word?) of the cat ketch rig in a (more) modern
yachts and, from following the Yahoo owners group, the dedication
displayed by the owners for these boats.
I like the 36 too but not real fond of the big bump out in the cockpit
created by the aft cabin. We (the family and I) enjoy a large(r) cockpit
and this arrangement wouldn't work for us.
I'd like a shoal draft/swing keel but like the openess of the cabin with
the fixed keel (swing keel version has the trunk bisecting the salon),
but can't have everything so probably settle for the fixed keel.
I've seen other more recent cat ketches but most look like most other
modern boats that just happen to have this rig, almost as an after
thought while the Freedoms maintain some of the "chunkyness" of the old
cat boats.
Not looking for screaming speed or to wow the dock walkers, but more the
comfort, design, ease of use and style of these boats.
Just trying to start a boat/cruising related discussion.
What do you guys think?



Not sure if you're interested, but I saw this on a newsletter I get.

FOR SALE Freedom 35 'Solo' (12/2008)
Built by Tillotson & Pearson, USA, 1983. Major refit 1999/2000.
Carbon Fibre freestanding masts with fully battened ketch rig.
Ideal Bluewater cruiser with the advantage of a doghouse for UK
type weather. New sails, new engine 2006.
Ashore Plymouth UK. £44,000.
Full details, photos at
www.petrockstowe.co.uk/solo



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


What the heck, while I'm dreaming of buying one, might as well as dream
about sailing it back from the UK!
Maybe smuggle some good beer back too.......

In article om,
says...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
easolutions...
"mmc" wrote in message
g.com...
is a Freedom 33 Cat Ketch. I like the semi-traditional look, the
uniqueness (is this a word?) of the cat ketch rig in a (more) modern
yachts and, from following the Yahoo owners group, the dedication
displayed by the owners for these boats.
I like the 36 too but not real fond of the big bump out in the cockpit
created by the aft cabin. We (the family and I) enjoy a large(r) cockpit
and this arrangement wouldn't work for us.
I'd like a shoal draft/swing keel but like the openess of the cabin with
the fixed keel (swing keel version has the trunk bisecting the salon),
but can't have everything so probably settle for the fixed keel.
I've seen other more recent cat ketches but most look like most other
modern boats that just happen to have this rig, almost as an after
thought while the Freedoms maintain some of the "chunkyness" of the old
cat boats.
Not looking for screaming speed or to wow the dock walkers, but more the
comfort, design, ease of use and style of these boats.
Just trying to start a boat/cruising related discussion.
What do you guys think?



Not sure if you're interested, but I saw this on a newsletter I get.

FOR SALE Freedom 35 'Solo' (12/2008)
Built by Tillotson & Pearson, USA, 1983. Major refit 1999/2000.
Carbon Fibre freestanding masts with fully battened ketch rig.
Ideal Bluewater cruiser with the advantage of a doghouse for UK
type weather. New sails, new engine 2006.
Ashore Plymouth UK. £44,000.
Full details, photos at
www.petrockstowe.co.uk/solo



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


What the heck, while I'm dreaming of buying one, might as well as dream
about sailing it back from the UK!
Maybe smuggle some good beer back too.......



You think it would survive the trip? The mandatory quality-control
sampling, to check for damage from motion and temperature, might
leave little in hand at the end of the trip on a 35' boat. ;-)

Mark Borgerson

"Mark Borgerson" wrote in message
g...
In article om,
says...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
easolutions...
"mmc" wrote in message
g.com...
is a Freedom 33 Cat Ketch. I like the semi-traditional look, the
uniqueness (is this a word?) of the cat ketch rig in a (more) modern
yachts and, from following the Yahoo owners group, the dedication
displayed by the owners for these boats.
I like the 36 too but not real fond of the big bump out in the cockpit
created by the aft cabin. We (the family and I) enjoy a large(r)
cockpit
and this arrangement wouldn't work for us.
I'd like a shoal draft/swing keel but like the openess of the cabin
with
the fixed keel (swing keel version has the trunk bisecting the salon),
but can't have everything so probably settle for the fixed keel.
I've seen other more recent cat ketches but most look like most other
modern boats that just happen to have this rig, almost as an after
thought while the Freedoms maintain some of the "chunkyness" of the old
cat boats.
Not looking for screaming speed or to wow the dock walkers, but more
the
comfort, design, ease of use and style of these boats.
Just trying to start a boat/cruising related discussion.
What do you guys think?



Not sure if you're interested, but I saw this on a newsletter I get.

FOR SALE Freedom 35 'Solo' (12/2008)
Built by Tillotson & Pearson, USA, 1983. Major refit 1999/2000.
Carbon Fibre freestanding masts with fully battened ketch rig.
Ideal Bluewater cruiser with the advantage of a doghouse for UK
type weather. New sails, new engine 2006.
Ashore Plymouth UK. £44,000.
Full details, photos at
www.petrockstowe.co.uk/solo



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


What the heck, while I'm dreaming of buying one, might as well as dream
about sailing it back from the UK!
Maybe smuggle some good beer back too.......



You think it would survive the trip? The mandatory quality-control
sampling, to check for damage from motion and temperature, might
leave little in hand at the end of the trip on a 35' boat. ;-)

Mark Borgerson

Good point - might have to get rid of it enroute!

Why dream so small, when you can dream LARGE?
289' Perini Navi

aka Maltese Falcon - for sale!

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...d=22866&ur l=

"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Why dream so small, when you can dream LARGE?
289' Perini Navi

aka Maltese Falcon - for sale!

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...d=22866&ur l=

Ya, that might make a decent dinghy for my boat. Thanks for the link. :-D