Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
om...
Edgar wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
om...
Yeah..we havwe to do that sometime in March...have to go down to
Oriental to do it since we draft too deep for the boatyards here and
have been stuck in the mud there once before..and we weren't too pleased
with them anyway...we'vew been having the divers scrape the bottom
seasonaly and it's pretty clean and they replaced one zinc last time but
we need the stuffing box repacked and stuff like that (and no, Doug...I
do not want to do that in the water...not that I have no faith in you
guys but...)
go on Katy, try it afloat. It will not sink your boat.
First check that you have the right sized square section packing. Measure
the shaft diameter and the diameter of the stern tube's housing for it.
Both these things can be done before you loosen anything off.
Subtract the shaft diameter from the other one and divide by two. This
gives you the size of the packing you need. Obtain a length of the
correct section packing
Then wrap the packing around the shaft and with something really sharp
like a Stanley knife cut through both parts of the packing so you have a
turn of packing that just fits the shaft when the two ends butt together.
Make about four of these and you are set to go.
Slide the packing gland compressor piece out along the shaft and with
something sharp pointed pick out and remove the first turn of packing.
There are probably three turns in all so you can also remove the second.
Very little water should be coming in as yet and unless you feel brave
enough to take the last one out as well you can just replace the two you
have taken out-staggering the joints- and these two new packings will
seal the gland again. The last one can be left in situ until your next
haulout.
The secret of success for this job is to have the right size of packing
already cut to exact size before you dismantle anything. You cannot do a
decent job of cutting packing to length when water is coming in all
around the job, but the actual quantity of water coming in with no
packing at all in place is not going to sink your boat if you are ready
with the right size pieces of packing to put back in.
You are able to do this because you have a traditional stuffing box. Mine
is a 'dripless' system with a carbon seal running on a polished face and
to replace it I would not only have to haul out but also would need to
pull the shaft right out.
nononono..you guys don't understand...they know HOW to do it...it's the
mess they create when they do it and I ahve to clean it up...you have to
access through the aft cabin and tear out al the bedding etc...in a 31 ft
boat there is just bnot tahat much room when you're living on it...


It's not much of a mess... the bilge pump will take care of it. I did it on
my 30 ft, no problem. The bilge pump ran twice for a couple of minutes.


hahahaha//Iam talking about dragging all the stuff out of the adftcabin
in order to get to it....that's the mess!

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:10:16 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

And then burp it when it goes wet again... I've heard, but never seen it
done.

That was with the old kind. Newer ones have a vent hose.


Ah... I'm using the nearly dripless material. So far, I haven't see much.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:58:38 -0500, katy
wrote:

Edgar wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
om...
Yeah..we havwe to do that sometime in March...have to go down to
Oriental to do it since we draft too deep for the boatyards here and have
been stuck in the mud there once before..and we weren't too pleased with
them anyway...we'vew been having the divers scrape the bottom seasonaly
and it's pretty clean and they replaced one zinc last time but we need the
stuffing box repacked and stuff like that (and no, Doug...I do not want to
do that in the water...not that I have no faith in you guys but...)

go on Katy, try it afloat. It will not sink your boat.
First check that you have the right sized square section packing. Measure
the shaft diameter and the diameter of the stern tube's housing for it. Both
these things can be done before you loosen anything off.
Subtract the shaft diameter from the other one and divide by two. This gives
you the size of the packing you need. Obtain a length of the correct
section packing
Then wrap the packing around the shaft and with something really sharp like
a Stanley knife cut through both parts of the packing so you have a turn of
packing that just fits the shaft when the two ends butt together. Make
about four of these and you are set to go.
Slide the packing gland compressor piece out along the shaft and with
something sharp pointed pick out and remove the first turn of packing. There
are probably three turns in all so you can also remove the second. Very
little water should be coming in as yet and unless you feel brave enough to
take the last one out as well you can just replace the two you have taken
out-staggering the joints- and these two new packings will seal the gland
again. The last one can be left in situ until your next haulout.
The secret of success for this job is to have the right size of packing
already cut to exact size before you dismantle anything. You cannot do a
decent job of cutting packing to length when water is coming in all around
the job, but the actual quantity of water coming in with no packing at all
in place is not going to sink your boat if you are ready with the right size
pieces of packing to put back in.
You are able to do this because you have a traditional stuffing box. Mine is
a 'dripless' system with a carbon seal running on a polished face and to
replace it I would not only have to haul out but also would need to pull the
shaft right out.


nononono..you guys don't understand...they know HOW to do it...it's the
mess they create when they do it and I ahve to clean it up...you have to
access through the aft cabin and tear out al the bedding etc...in a 31
ft boat there is just bnot tahat much room when you're living on it...

What mess? Just drag the bedding up on deck and heap it up there by
the mast, get the bed boards out and put them in the Head. Get the job
done, throw the stuff back in the cabin and say "Here, Honey - you can
make the bed now......
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:

What mess? Just drag the bedding up on deck and heap it up there by
the mast, get the bed boards out and put them in the Head. Get the job
done, throw the stuff back in the cabin and say "Here, Honey - you can
make the bed now......
Cheers,

Bruce

Yer a real trooper there,Bruce.We hae a tarp over the boom sonothing
will fit by the mast,aintno way in GOd'sgreen earth the bedboards
wouldfit in the head and he has about 3 foam mattress top things under
the cushions that don't like being moved...Has anyone everrold you that
you think like a man?
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:04:18 -0500, katy
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:

What mess? Just drag the bedding up on deck and heap it up there by
the mast, get the bed boards out and put them in the Head. Get the job
done, throw the stuff back in the cabin and say "Here, Honey - you can
make the bed now......
Cheers,

Bruce

Yer a real trooper there,Bruce.We hae a tarp over the boom sonothing
will fit by the mast,aintno way in GOd'sgreen earth the bedboards
wouldfit in the head and he has about 3 foam mattress top things under
the cushions that don't like being moved...Has anyone everrold you that
you think like a man?
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



Well there you go then. Got a tarp over the boom - nice little tent
there. Just drag the junk up and pile it in the cockpit, makes for so
much more room "down stairs". Still works though - just dump the stuff
down the hatch and shout "Give me a hand down there, will you Honey?

Gets about the same results..... and comments....
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:04:18 -0500, katy
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:

What mess? Just drag the bedding up on deck and heap it up there by
the mast, get the bed boards out and put them in the Head. Get the job
done, throw the stuff back in the cabin and say "Here, Honey - you can
make the bed now......
Cheers,

Bruce

Yer a real trooper there,Bruce.We hae a tarp over the boom sonothing
will fit by the mast,aintno way in GOd'sgreen earth the bedboards
wouldfit in the head and he has about 3 foam mattress top things under
the cushions that don't like being moved...Has anyone everrold you that
you think like a man?
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


Yeah. One of those men that gets things done while a women stands
nearby, reciting a list of reasons why what he's doing can't be done.

On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:30:50 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:04:18 -0500, katy
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:

What mess? Just drag the bedding up on deck and heap it up there by
the mast, get the bed boards out and put them in the Head. Get the job
done, throw the stuff back in the cabin and say "Here, Honey - you can
make the bed now......
Cheers,

Bruce

Yer a real trooper there,Bruce.We hae a tarp over the boom sonothing
will fit by the mast,aintno way in GOd'sgreen earth the bedboards
wouldfit in the head and he has about 3 foam mattress top things under
the cushions that don't like being moved...Has anyone everrold you that
you think like a man?
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


Yeah. One of those men that gets things done while a women stands
nearby, reciting a list of reasons why what he's doing can't be done.

Back when we were younger I used to try logic - "here's the hammer,
you fix it!" Nope, she don't fall for that, tells me that her side of
the bargain was cooking and having kids, and damn but I can't do
either.

After forty-something years though we've sort of come to a solution.
She still rants and rages and I don't listen. Keeps us both happy.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:04:18 -0500, katy
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:

What mess? Just drag the bedding up on deck and heap it up there by
the mast, get the bed boards out and put them in the Head. Get the job
done, throw the stuff back in the cabin and say "Here, Honey - you can
make the bed now......
Cheers,

Bruce
Yer a real trooper there,Bruce.We hae a tarp over the boom sonothing
will fit by the mast,aintno way in GOd'sgreen earth the bedboards
wouldfit in the head and he has about 3 foam mattress top things under
the cushions that don't like being moved...Has anyone everrold you that
you think like a man?
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



Well there you go then. Got a tarp over the boom - nice little tent
there. Just drag the junk up and pile it in the cockpit, makes for so
much more room "down stairs". Still works though - just dump the stuff
down the hatch and shout "Give me a hand down there, will you Honey?

Gets about the same results..... and comments....
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

You must have an iron constitution...

wrote:
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:04:18 -0500, katy
wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:

What mess? Just drag the bedding up on deck and heap it up there by
the mast, get the bed boards out and put them in the Head. Get the job
done, throw the stuff back in the cabin and say "Here, Honey - you can
make the bed now......
Cheers,

Bruce
Yer a real trooper there,Bruce.We hae a tarp over the boom sonothing
will fit by the mast,aintno way in GOd'sgreen earth the bedboards
wouldfit in the head and he has about 3 foam mattress top things under
the cushions that don't like being moved...Has anyone everrold you that
you think like a man?
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


Yeah. One of those men that gets things done while a women stands
nearby, reciting a list of reasons why what he's doing can't be done.

Nah...most women who liveaboard do more than thier fair share of the
work..we were always taught as kids that if you start a job yourself,
you finish it yourself,ncluding the cleanup...You made the mess, you
clean up the mess...

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:


After forty-something years though we've sort of come to a solution.
She still rants and rages and I don't listen. Keeps us both happy.
Cheers,

Bruce
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)


More couples should take lessons from the two of you....it's when people
start listening to each other that problems start...