Richard Casady wrote:
How come stainless cable is more than six times as costly as
galvanized, yet nobody uses the galvanized. Stainless the same size
has about 80% of the breaking strength. Galvanized is what they guy
power poles with.

Casady


Well, the price differential isn't that high, if you don't buy SS wire
that is preceded by the six most expensive letters in the English
alphabet; M A R I N E.

The basic material is more costly, and great deal more galvanized is
used throughout the world, cranes, tow cable, highway restraint cable,
antenna guys, drilling derricks......etc.


Properly cared for galvanized will out last steel, take an old boat
restoration class or two, ignore Wilbur/Neal, he knows nothing about boats.

Cheers
Martin

Marty wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
How come stainless cable is more than six times as costly as
galvanized, yet nobody uses the galvanized. Stainless the same size
has about 80% of the breaking strength. Galvanized is what they guy
power poles with.

Casady


Well, the price differential isn't that high, if you don't buy SS wire
that is preceded by the six most expensive letters in the English
alphabet; M A R I N E.

The basic material is more costly, and great deal more galvanized is
used throughout the world, cranes, tow cable, highway restraint cable,
antenna guys, drilling derricks......etc.


Properly cared for galvanized will out last steel, take an old boat
restoration class or two, ignore Wilbur/Neal, he knows nothing about boats.

Cheers
Martin

Bernard Boitessier rigged Joshua with galvanized wire and wood poles.
Worked for him. Not exactly light or pretty but worked.

hpeer wrote:


Properly cared for galvanized will out last steel, take an old boat
restoration class or two, ignore Wilbur/Neal, he knows nothing about
boats.

Cheers
Martin

Bernard Boitessier rigged Joshua with galvanized wire and wood poles.
Worked for him. Not exactly light or pretty but worked.

Indeed, check out the great sailing vessels of the end of the 19th
century and early 20th, some of which are still plying the seas.

Cheers
Martin

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:29:43 -0500, Marty wrote:

Indeed, check out the great sailing vessels of the end of the 19th
century

Hitler built three tall ships, for Naval officer training. The USCG
has one they renamed Eagle. The other two are still around. There is a
tall ship in Stockholm that is now a Youth Hostel Stayed there in 69.
The Af Chapman. It had been a training ship as well as a freighter.

Casady

"Marty" wrote in message
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hpeer wrote:


Properly cared for galvanized will out last steel, take an old boat
restoration class or two, ignore Wilbur/Neal, he knows nothing about
boats.

Cheers
Martin

Bernard Boitessier rigged Joshua with galvanized wire and wood poles.
Worked for him. Not exactly light or pretty but worked.

Indeed, check out the great sailing vessels of the end of the 19th century
and early 20th, some of which are still plying the seas.

They were not yachts so there was no objection to coating the wires
frequently with Stockholm tar to prevent corrosion.
Anyway stainless steel was only invented around WW1 time

On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:53:06 +0100, "Edgar"
wrote:

Anyway stainless steel was only invented around WW1 time

One of the very first applications was tubes for a Naval gun. Today
you can get any number of different guns made entirely from the stuff.
[ give or take the handles, traditionally wood.]

Casady

"hpeer" wrote in message
m...
Marty wrote:
Richard Casady wrote:
How come stainless cable is more than six times as costly as
galvanized, yet nobody uses the galvanized. Stainless the same size
has about 80% of the breaking strength. Galvanized is what they guy
power poles with.

Casady


Well, the price differential isn't that high, if you don't buy SS wire
that is preceded by the six most expensive letters in the English
alphabet; M A R I N E.

The basic material is more costly, and great deal more galvanized is used
throughout the world, cranes, tow cable, highway restraint cable, antenna
guys, drilling derricks......etc.


Properly cared for galvanized will out last steel, take an old boat
restoration class or two, ignore Wilbur/Neal, he knows nothing about
boats.

Cheers
Martin

Bernard Boitessier rigged Joshua with galvanized wire and wood poles.
Worked for him. Not exactly light or pretty but worked.

Galvanised rigging looks perfectly OK but will start to rust after a year or
two. However this rusting is easy to check, since it will almost always
start at the lower ends of the shrouds where salt spray reaches it most
often. For this reason you mut periodically remove the seizing from the
splice at the lower end to make sure that hidden rust has not started inside
the splice.

"Marty" wrote in message
...
Richard Casady wrote:
How come stainless cable is more than six times as costly as
galvanized, yet nobody uses the galvanized. Stainless the same size
has about 80% of the breaking strength. Galvanized is what they guy
power poles with.

Casady


Well, the price differential isn't that high, if you don't buy SS wire
that is preceded by the six most expensive letters in the English
alphabet; M A R I N E.

The basic material is more costly, and great deal more galvanized is used
throughout the world, cranes, tow cable, highway restraint cable, antenna
guys, drilling derricks......etc.


Properly cared for galvanized will out last steel, take an old boat
restoration class or two, ignore Wilbur/Neal, he knows nothing about
boats.

Yes, it is Ok in any application where you can grease it. But you can't
grease your rigging unless you want your sails, ropes and everything else to
get covered in it.

Edgar wrote:
"Marty" wrote in message
...
Richard Casady wrote:
How come stainless cable is more than six times as costly as
galvanized, yet nobody uses the galvanized. Stainless the same size
has about 80% of the breaking strength. Galvanized is what they guy
power poles with.

Casady

Well, the price differential isn't that high, if you don't buy SS wire
that is preceded by the six most expensive letters in the English
alphabet; M A R I N E.

The basic material is more costly, and great deal more galvanized is used
throughout the world, cranes, tow cable, highway restraint cable, antenna
guys, drilling derricks......etc.


Properly cared for galvanized will out last steel, take an old boat
restoration class or two, ignore Wilbur/Neal, he knows nothing about
boats.

Yes, it is Ok in any application where you can grease it. But you can't
grease your rigging unless you want your sails, ropes and everything else to
get covered in it.

For the boats we sail, annual soaking in linseed oil will suffice, and
leave a lot less mess on your sails..

Cheers
Martin

Edgar wrote:

Properly cared for galvanized will out last steel, take an old boat
restoration class or two, ignore Wilbur/Neal, he knows nothing about
boats.

Yes, it is Ok in any application where you can grease it. But you can't
grease your rigging unless you want your sails, ropes and everything else to
get covered in it.


You would feel a lot better if you used a Mil Spec style corrosion
inhibitor. These set to a waxy finish within 24 hours.
Even a BoeShield T-6 (not sure about that number) aerosol cannister
will do a serviceable job. It's this style of inhibitor that coats
the galvanized aileron control cables in the 737 you flew in recently.....

Brian W