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Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:45:38 +0000, Gordon wrote: Richard Casady wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:00:17 GMT, You wrote: What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or two? Gordon connect it to a LOT of Chain/Line...... Duh.... On the NW coast of the US 2 000 feet of wire is a common anchor rode. Shallow water seems to be scarce. It isn't exactly stowed, it's all on the drum of the winch. Casady Boating magazine. Picture of a big spool of wire. on a foredeck.That much 3/8 would weigh 600 lbs, not out of the question with a 40 ft or bigger boat. How deep do you think fjords are? You can carry a couple of thousand miles of good sized cable on a ship, but they don't anchor with it. Casady This was on a sailboat? Sometimes sailboats have spools on the stern with lots of line to tie to shore. Never on the bow. If it was a fishing boat, you might have seen a gillnet drum or if it was a longliner for halibut, black cod, or sable fish there could be a drum with wire rope up to a couple miles long. Or a geoduck boat may have a spool of chain because they anchor in currents but only up to 60 ft. But normal anchoring? No way. Yes we have some deep water but there are also lots of good anchorages. The tidal currents can run very strong here also and with a good blow, you'd need a hell of a scope to hold in deep water. Gordon |
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:33:26 +0000, Gordon wrote:
Richard Casady wrote: On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:45:38 +0000, Gordon wrote: Richard Casady wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:00:17 GMT, You wrote: What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or two? Gordon connect it to a LOT of Chain/Line...... Duh.... On the NW coast of the US 2 000 feet of wire is a common anchor rode. Shallow water seems to be scarce. It isn't exactly stowed, it's all on the drum of the winch. Casady Boating magazine. Picture of a big spool of wire. on a foredeck.That much 3/8 would weigh 600 lbs, not out of the question with a 40 ft or bigger boat. How deep do you think fjords are? You can carry a couple of thousand miles of good sized cable on a ship, but they don't anchor with it. Casady This was on a sailboat? Sometimes sailboats have spools on the stern with lots of line to tie to shore. Never on the bow. A powerboat with with a naked deck, no stay or sail. If it was a fishing boat, you might have seen a gillnet drum or if it was a longliner for halibut, black cod, or sable fish there could be a drum with wire rope up to a couple miles long. That's not a longline. Those are forty to fifty miles long. Generally 700 lb mono. Looks like weed whacker string. You see the movie Perfect Storm? The lady who was captain of Brown's other boat, the Hannah Boden, wrote a book that describes longlining for swordfish in detail. Or a geoduck boat may have a spool of chain because they anchor in currents but only up to 60 ft. But normal anchoring? No way. Yes we have some deep water but there are also lots of good anchorages. The tidal currents can run very strong here also and with a good blow, you'd need a hell of a scope to hold in deep water. That is why so much wire. Six to one scope in 330 ft of water takes a 2000 foot rode. |
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Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:33:26 +0000, Gordon wrote: Richard Casady wrote: On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:45:38 +0000, Gordon wrote: Richard Casady wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:00:17 GMT, You wrote: What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or two? Gordon connect it to a LOT of Chain/Line...... Duh.... On the NW coast of the US 2 000 feet of wire is a common anchor rode. Shallow water seems to be scarce. It isn't exactly stowed, it's all on the drum of the winch. Casady Boating magazine. Picture of a big spool of wire. on a foredeck.That much 3/8 would weigh 600 lbs, not out of the question with a 40 ft or bigger boat. How deep do you think fjords are? You can carry a couple of thousand miles of good sized cable on a ship, but they don't anchor with it. Casady This was on a sailboat? Sometimes sailboats have spools on the stern with lots of line to tie to shore. Never on the bow. A powerboat with with a naked deck, no stay or sail. If it was a fishing boat, you might have seen a gillnet drum or if it was a longliner for halibut, black cod, or sable fish there could be a drum with wire rope up to a couple miles long. That's not a longline. Those are forty to fifty miles long. Generally 700 lb mono. Looks like weed whacker string. You see the movie Perfect Storm? The lady who was captain of Brown's other boat, the Hannah Boden, wrote a book that describes longlining for swordfish in detail. I don't know about swordfishing but the regs control the number of sets on a longline for the fishing I described. The lines are seldom over a mile long. Gordon |
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On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 23:35:53 +0000, Larry wrote:
the stumps of those trees are lurking just under the surface of the lakes, great for fishing, disasterous for boaters. There are a couple of flood control lakes near Des Moines. They have fields of standing timber, sometimes just under the surface. I was boating on one with my 22 foot sterndrive, when a guy I let drive headed for a marker at high speed while I was in the cuddy fetching something. He put the prop in a tree trying to read the inch high letters that said keep back three hundred feet. I wanted to kill him and an unknown guy at the DNR. My family has had one of the very first jet boats since the fifties, on a lake where nobody ever ventures into shallow water, unless launching off a beach. Should of had it that day. Someone told me you need three props to boat the artificial lakes, one on the engine, a spare, and one in the shop getting repaired. Casady |
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 05:09:12 +0000, Gordon wrote:
That's not a longline. Those are forty to fifty miles long. Generally 700 lb mono. Looks like weed whacker string. You see the movie Perfect Storm? The lady who was captain of Brown's other boat, the Hannah Boden, wrote a book that describes longlining for swordfish in detail. I don't know about swordfishing but the regs control the number of sets on a longline for the fishing I described. The lines are seldom over a mile long. Gordon That isn't really long, but I don't know what else you could call it. You say they use wire. The weight would be an advantage. The idea is to suspend the main line deeper than boxboat screws, a problem in the Atlantic. Undoubtedly less of a problem in the fishery you refer to. Casady |
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Richard Casady wrote:
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 05:09:12 +0000, Gordon wrote: That's not a longline. Those are forty to fifty miles long. Generally 700 lb mono. Looks like weed whacker string. You see the movie Perfect Storm? The lady who was captain of Brown's other boat, the Hannah Boden, wrote a book that describes longlining for swordfish in detail. I don't know about swordfishing but the regs control the number of sets on a longline for the fishing I described. The lines are seldom over a mile long. Gordon That isn't really long, but I don't know what else you could call it. You say they use wire. The weight would be an advantage. The idea is to suspend the main line deeper than boxboat screws, a problem in the Atlantic. Undoubtedly less of a problem in the fishery you refer to. Casady This is bottom fishing. G |
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:26:10 +0000, Gordon wrote:
Richard Casady wrote: On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 05:09:12 +0000, Gordon wrote: That's not a longline. Those are forty to fifty miles long. Generally 700 lb mono. Looks like weed whacker string. You see the movie Perfect Storm? The lady who was captain of Brown's other boat, the Hannah Boden, wrote a book that describes longlining for swordfish in detail. I don't know about swordfishing but the regs control the number of sets on a longline for the fishing I described. The lines are seldom over a mile long. Gordon That isn't really long, but I don't know what else you could call it. You say they use wire. The weight would be an advantage. The idea is to suspend the main line deeper than boxboat screws, a problem in the Atlantic. Undoubtedly less of a problem in the fishery you refer to. Casady This is bottom fishing. In Iowa we have the trotline,a hundred feet long with fifty hooks. Stretch it across a river, after catfish. Sort of HO scale longlining. |
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"Richard Casady" wrote in message ... On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 05:09:12 +0000, Gordon wrote: That's not a longline. Those are forty to fifty miles long. Generally 700 lb mono. Looks like weed whacker string. You see the movie Perfect Storm? The lady who was captain of Brown's other boat, the Hannah Boden, wrote a book that describes longlining for swordfish in detail. I don't know about swordfishing but the regs control the number of sets on a longline for the fishing I described. The lines are seldom over a mile long. Gordon That isn't really long, but I don't know what else you could call it. You say they use wire. The weight would be an advantage. The idea is to suspend the main line deeper than boxboat screws, a problem in the Atlantic. Undoubtedly less of a problem in the fishery you refer to. Casady Deeper is better so they will not kill so many albatrosses |
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i put it away in the locker....
On Feb 7, 11:46*am, Gordon wrote: * *What do you do with your anchor when going offshore for a week or two? * Gordon |
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