Where's Jim Donahue when ya need him?

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Steve

Right here. Silliness. The vote is already in. LORAN is dead. Always was
dead when GPS came along. You can't support a local system as an
alternative to a global one. Stick to your guns Steve.... All those planes
and ships should have celestial capable crew on board. Won't actually help
anybody but it will provide employment to us old foggies who know how to use
a sextant. Sure LORAN could have been as good...and we also might have
learned to do an automatic job off stellar distances. Keep it up
Steve...you and OTN can end up the last of the true navigators..."We don't
know where we are...we don't know where we are going...but we have redundant
manual systems that may, (or may not) tell us where we are."

Go for it Stevel

Jim

"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
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Where's Jim Donahue when ya need him?


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Steve

See Rec boats response....should not waste cruising bandwidth on this
nonsense. .. Jim
"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
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Where's Jim Donahue when ya need him?


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Steve

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 19:11:06 -0700, "Jim Donohue"
wrote:

See Rec boats response....should not waste cruising bandwidth on this
nonsense. .. Jim

lol. Actually, I was just gonna post it to cruising since reliable
radio navigation is probably more important to cruisers than
recreational day boaters who stick to familiar waters.

Steve

"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
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Where's Jim Donahue when ya need him?


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Steve

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 19:09:42 -0700, "Jim Donohue"
wrote:
"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
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Where's Jim Donahue when ya need him?


http://www.defensedaily.com/cgi/av/s...ontimeon.h tm

Right here. Silliness. The vote is already in. LORAN is dead. Always was
dead when GPS came along. You can't support a local system as an

More and more people are disagreeing with you and are finally coming to
realize the folly of trusting everything to one mode of navigation.

alternative to a global one. Stick to your guns Steve.... All those planes

Sure you can, for the area the local system covers.

Steve

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 03:01:20 GMT, (Steven Shelikoff)
wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 19:09:42 -0700, "Jim Donohue"
wrote:
"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
...
Where's Jim Donahue when ya need him?


http://www.defensedaily.com/cgi/av/s...ontimeon.h tm

Right here. Silliness. The vote is already in. LORAN is dead. Always was
dead when GPS came along. You can't support a local system as an

More and more people are disagreeing with you and are finally coming to
realize the folly of trusting everything to one mode of navigation.

alternative to a global one. Stick to your guns Steve.... All those planes

Sure you can, for the area the local system covers.

P.S., I'll bet the boaters from FL to NC who still have LORAN are pretty
happy they have that backup since GPS is supposed to be unreliable from
6/11 to 6/20 in that area due to military exercises.

Steve

Go to West Marine. Search on Loran. How may sets do you find Steve?
Dead...quite dead.
"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 19:11:06 -0700, "Jim Donohue"
wrote:

See Rec boats response....should not waste cruising bandwidth on this
nonsense. .. Jim

lol. Actually, I was just gonna post it to cruising since reliable
radio navigation is probably more important to cruisers than
recreational day boaters who stick to familiar waters.

Steve

"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message
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Where's Jim Donahue when ya need him?



http://www.defensedaily.com/cgi/av/s...04&file=decisi
ontimeon.htm

Steve

"Jim Donohue" writes:

Go to West Marine. Search on Loran. How may sets do you find Steve?

Go to froogle.google.com. Search on Loran. You can still buy
new Furuno Loran-C receivers (but not from West Marine). And
there are plenty of perfectly good units available on Ebay.

--lyndon

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 11:04:08 -0700, "Jim Donohue"
wrote:

Go to West Marine. Search on Loran. How may sets do you find Steve?

There are plenty of places I can buy a LORAN set. I wouldn't get it
from West Marine in any case.

Steve

In deed you can. You can also find them at ham swap meets next to the old
boat anchor radios and at marine swap meets next to the 8 track stereos.

The point was not that they are unobtainable...but that the product has been
entirely abandoned by the leading retailers.

You can also find differential receivers...which will continue to be
marketed for the big boaters. But you will not find them for long on the
retailer shelves.

The thought that LORAN has some role as a backup to GPS in a military
jamming situation is pretty close to ludicrous. You really think the
electronic warfare guys are not going toimpact long wave? You think LORAN
is resistive of jamming?

Silliness...all silliness.

Jim
"Lyndon Nerenberg" wrote in message
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"Jim Donohue" writes:

Go to West Marine. Search on Loran. How may sets do you find Steve?

Go to froogle.google.com. Search on Loran. You can still buy
new Furuno Loran-C receivers (but not from West Marine). And
there are plenty of perfectly good units available on Ebay.

--lyndon