On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:37:02 -0000, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:

engsol writes:

I thought of the hot plate too, except a google search didn't reveal
a source for them.

Oh for crying out loud, just walk to your nearest hardware or
dry goods store :-)

--lyndon

Thanks for the advice. It turned out to not be as easy as that.
After 10-12 calls, I found only one....a really cheap one ($12)
that I wouldn't turn my back on for a second. I didn't buy it.
Hence the google search, and the post here.
Seems that in this part of the country (western USA) college dorms
and apartments (that I'm aware of) have outlawed
hotplates...too dangerous "they" say....so not much demand.
Norm B

I taught college for many years. The reason they outlawed them had
nothing to do with the device but to do with irresponsible students
and liability risks.

An electric stovetop is nothing more than a collection of hotplates.
Unless you are using one while passed out, hung over, or having
cheap sex, they are perfectly safe.

Doug
s/v Callista

"engsol" wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:37:02 -0000, Lyndon Nerenberg
wrote:

engsol writes:

I thought of the hot plate too, except a google search didn't reveal
a source for them.

Oh for crying out loud, just walk to your nearest hardware or
dry goods store :-)

--lyndon

Thanks for the advice. It turned out to not be as easy as that.
After 10-12 calls, I found only one....a really cheap one ($12)
that I wouldn't turn my back on for a second. I didn't buy it.
Hence the google search, and the post here.
Seems that in this part of the country (western USA) college dorms
and apartments (that I'm aware of) have outlawed
hotplates...too dangerous "they" say....so not much demand.
Norm B

And any reasonably intelligent dorm resident was capable of preparing tasty
dishes on top of their steam iron or in their popcorn popper, anyway. So the
actual hotplates were an unnecessary redundancy. ;-)

--
Karin Conover-Lewis
Fair and Balanced since 1959
klc dot lewis at centurytel dot net


"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
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I taught college for many years. The reason they outlawed them had
nothing to do with the device but to do with irresponsible students
and liability risks.

An electric stovetop is nothing more than a collection of hotplates.
Unless you are using one while passed out, hung over, or having
cheap sex, they are perfectly safe.

Doug
s/v Callista

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 17:26:26 -0700, engsol
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:37:02 -0000, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:

engsol writes:

I thought of the hot plate too, except a google search didn't reveal
a source for them.

Oh for crying out loud, just walk to your nearest hardware or
dry goods store :-)

--lyndon

Thanks for the advice. It turned out to not be as easy as that.
After 10-12 calls, I found only one....a really cheap one ($12)
that I wouldn't turn my back on for a second. I didn't buy it.
Hence the google search, and the post here.
Seems that in this part of the country (western USA) college dorms
and apartments (that I'm aware of) have outlawed
hotplates...too dangerous "they" say....so not much demand.
Norm B
You could search for "induction cookers." They cost more than hot
plates, but only heat ferromagnetic pans. A home type single burner
costs about $180, IIRC.

They can heat up a pan much faster than a hotplate of the same power
requirements. The one I have seen in use (by a professional chef doing
a demonstration in a dining room) was only about an inch thick, so it
would stow easily.


Rodney Myrvaagnes J36 Gjo/a


Ask not with whom the buck stops . . .

Rodney Myrvaagnes writes:

You could search for "induction cookers." They cost more than hot
plates, but only heat ferromagnetic pans.

And I suspect they would raise merry hell with your compass. I wouldn't
let something like this anywhere near my boat :-)

--lyndon

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 18:06:26 -0000, Lyndon Nerenberg
wrote:

Rodney Myrvaagnes writes:

You could search for "induction cookers." They cost more than hot
plates, but only heat ferromagnetic pans.

And I suspect they would raise merry hell with your compass. I wouldn't
let something like this anywhere near my boat :-)

The OP wanted an alternative to propane at a dock with electricity, so
both pan and plate would be stowed whenver the compass is in use.

.. In any case, the ferromagnetic pan and the plate shouldn't be stored
near the compass with the boat in motion, but otherwise what problem?



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


Capsizing under chute, and having the chute rise and fill without tangling, all while Mark and Sally are still behind you

Rodney Myrvaagnes writes:

The OP wanted an alternative to propane at a dock with electricity, so
both pan and plate would be stowed whenver the compass is in use.

. In any case, the ferromagnetic pan and the plate shouldn't be stored
near the compass with the boat in motion, but otherwise what problem?

If it throws a strong enough magnetic field it could permanently
magnetize the compass. I wouldn't want to have to swing the compass
every time I made bacon and eggs for breakfast :-)

--lyndon

On 17 Jun 2004 19:09:03 -0600, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:

Rodney Myrvaagnes writes:

The OP wanted an alternative to propane at a dock with electricity, so
both pan and plate would be stowed whenver the compass is in use.

. In any case, the ferromagnetic pan and the plate shouldn't be stored
near the compass with the boat in motion, but otherwise what problem?

If it throws a strong enough magnetic field it could permanently
magnetize the compass. I wouldn't want to have to swing the compass
every time I made bacon and eggs for breakfast :-)

--lyndon

As far as I know, induction cookers operate on frequencies between
25 kHz and 40kHz. Being AC (RF) in nature, I doubt it'd magnetize anything.
More likely de-magnetize the compass, if too close, but it'd take awhile.
Plus, I'd suspect the magnetic field would be optomized in the vertical direction.
And I'd also suspect that the HF radio wouldn't be very happy.
The primary show stopper is cost....$1,000 up...way up.
Norm B

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 19:05:33 -0700, engsol
wrote:

On 17 Jun 2004 19:09:03 -0600, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:

Rodney Myrvaagnes writes:

The OP wanted an alternative to propane at a dock with electricity, so
both pan and plate would be stowed whenver the compass is in use.

. In any case, the ferromagnetic pan and the plate shouldn't be stored
near the compass with the boat in motion, but otherwise what problem?

If it throws a strong enough magnetic field it could permanently
magnetize the compass. I wouldn't want to have to swing the compass
every time I made bacon and eggs for breakfast :-)

--lyndon

As far as I know, induction cookers operate on frequencies between
25 kHz and 40kHz. Being AC (RF) in nature, I doubt it'd magnetize anything.
More likely de-magnetize the compass, if too close, but it'd take awhile.
Plus, I'd suspect the magnetic field would be optomized in the vertical direction.
And I'd also suspect that the HF radio wouldn't be very happy.
The primary show stopper is cost....$1,000 up...way up.
Norm B

There is a home-type hotplate-like one for about $180. I have seen it
used by chefs doing cooking demonstrations in the dining room on
several occasions.

Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


Capsizing under chute, and having the chute rise and fill without tangling, all while Mark and Sally are still behind you

I suspect the starter motor on your engine creates a stronger
field.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Lyndon Nerenberg" wrote in message
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Rodney Myrvaagnes writes:

The OP wanted an alternative to propane at a dock with electricity, so
both pan and plate would be stowed whenver the compass is in use.

. In any case, the ferromagnetic pan and the plate shouldn't be stored
near the compass with the boat in motion, but otherwise what problem?

If it throws a strong enough magnetic field it could permanently
magnetize the compass. I wouldn't want to have to swing the compass
every time I made bacon and eggs for breakfast :-)

--lyndon